Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-31 Thread Simon Laws
: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:06 AM Subject: Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again) Simon Laws wrote: On 8/20/07, Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/20/07, Simon Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See inline. Simon Raymond Feng wrote: Comments inline. Thanks

Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-31 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
[snip] Simon Laws wrote: Ok, so we know there is no generally acceptable logging interface. Has been proved time and time again. All we can hope to do is use something that suits us and doesn't mess up anyone who wants to embed our code. I'm perfectly happy to +1 JDK logging. However

Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-31 Thread Simon Laws
On 8/31/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Simon Laws wrote: Ok, so we know there is no generally acceptable logging interface. Has been proved time and time again. All we can hope to do is use something that suits us and doesn't mess up anyone who wants to

Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-31 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
Simon Laws wrote: What would be put in specific logging properties? The usual logging configuration, what we want our default logging level to be on a module by module bases, what handlers to use, configuration of the handlers e.g. if it's a file handler where to put the file and what

Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-31 Thread Simon Laws
On 8/31/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simon Laws wrote: What would be put in specific logging properties? The usual logging configuration, what we want our default logging level to be on a module by module bases, what handlers to use, configuration of the

Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-31 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
Simon Laws wrote: On 8/31/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simon Laws wrote: What would be put in specific logging properties? The usual logging configuration, what we want our default logging level to be on a module by module bases, what

Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-31 Thread Simon Laws
On 8/31/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simon Laws wrote: On 8/31/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simon Laws wrote: What would be put in specific logging properties? The usual logging configuration, what we want our default logging level

JDKLogger calls, was: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-30 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
Subject: Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again) Simon Laws wrote: On 8/20/07, Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/20/07, Simon Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See inline. Simon Raymond Feng wrote: Comments inline. Thanks, Raymond - Original Message - From: Jean

Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-29 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
] To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 9:27 AM Subject: Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again) [snip] ant elder wrote: And also my 2p inline... ...ant On 8/16/07, Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A number of different

Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-29 Thread Raymond Feng
PROTECTED] To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 9:27 AM Subject: Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again) [snip] ant elder wrote: And also my 2p inline... ...ant On 8/16/07, Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A number of different requirements have

Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-28 Thread Simon Laws
] To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 9:27 AM Subject: Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again) [snip] ant elder wrote: And also my 2p inline... ...ant On 8/16/07, Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A number of different

Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-20 Thread Simon Nash
See inline. Simon Raymond Feng wrote: Comments inline. Thanks, Raymond - Original Message - From: Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 9:27 AM Subject: Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again) [snip] ant

Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-20 Thread Simon Laws
Subject: Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again) [snip] ant elder wrote: And also my 2p inline... ...ant On 8/16/07, Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A number of different requirements have been discussed and solutions proposed. My 2p (I'm using Raymond's

Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-17 Thread ant elder
And also my 2p inline... ...ant On 8/16/07, Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A number of different requirements have been discussed and solutions proposed. My 2p (I'm using Raymond's definitions b.t.w) Tracing: Dump out input/output/exception for method calls for the purpose of

Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-17 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
[snip] ant elder wrote: And also my 2p inline... ...ant On 8/16/07, Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A number of different requirements have been discussed and solutions proposed. My 2p (I'm using Raymond's definitions b.t.w) Tracing: Dump out input/output/exception for method calls

Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-17 Thread Raymond Feng
Comments inline. Thanks, Raymond - Original Message - From: Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 9:27 AM Subject: Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again) [snip] ant elder wrote: And also my 2p inline

Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-16 Thread Simon Laws
On 8/15/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ant elder wrote: On 8/10/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simon Laws wrote: On 8/8/07, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/7/07, Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We talked about this

Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-15 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
ant elder wrote: On 8/10/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simon Laws wrote: On 8/8/07, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/7/07, Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We talked about this before (

Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-11 Thread ant elder
On 8/10/07, Jean-Sebastien Delfino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simon Laws wrote: On 8/8/07, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/7/07, Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We talked about this before ( http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org/msg16784.html) but didn't

Re: Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-10 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
Simon Laws wrote: On 8/8/07, ant elder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/7/07, Simon Laws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We talked about this before ( http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org/msg16784.html) but didn't come to any conclusions. So, 1/ What is the requirement? 2/ What

Monitoring, logging and exceptions (again)

2007-08-07 Thread Simon Laws
We talked about this before ( http://www.mail-archive.com/tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org/msg16784.html) but didn't come to any conclusions. So, 1/ What is the requirement? 2/ What is the technical solution? 3/ When should we try and get it done? To get things going again here are some thoughts drawn