Re: [Tutor] How do I test file operations (Such as opening, reading, writing, etc.)?

on whether I was running program code or test code. But amongst all the things Danny clarified, he really helped me see how to do this in the context of writing classes. But in choosing what approach to use, I had not considered the possible importance of using real files in some instances, which you

Re: [Tutor] How do I test file operations (Such as opening, reading, writing, etc.)?

inheritance heirarchies in most languages (although > not in python!) I'll ask you the same question that I asked Danny: Do you have a favorite text which teaches OOP the way you feel it should be taught? And if possible, Python-based? boB ___ Tutor

Re: [Tutor] How do I test file operations (Such as opening, reading, writing, etc.)?

gy that that behaves like a file, but > can be constructed in memory, use StringIO (or cStringIO). Isn't option D what Danny was using to make option B? Or are you saying keep things even simpler? boB ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubs

[Tutor] How do I test file operations (Such as opening, reading, writing, etc.)?

sing, but looks complicated. This leads me to look at https://docs.python.org/3.4/library/unittest.mock.html, but right now I am finding this heavy going, and it will probably take me some time and further research before I feel I am really understand applying this mock process to file ops.

Re: [Tutor] Help

In case you cannot see what we are talking about in how your message is not keeping its proper indentation, go to the Tutor Mail Archive at: https://www.mail-archive.com/tutor@python.org/msg73411.html and perhaps you can better see the difficulty we are having reading your message. boB

Re: [Tutor] Can This Script Be Modified to Read Many Files?..

On Jan 25, 2016 6:26 PM, "Sam Starfas via Tutor" wrote: > > Hi,I am very new to Python, but having fun learning. > I need to have a script read all of the XML files contents that are in a directory, pull out the contents of an element, in my case , and list them in an output

Re: [Tutor] Why do I not get an error when I mistakenly type "humdrum.sigh_strenght" instead of the correct "humdrum.sigh_strength"?

On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 3:30 AM, Cameron Simpson <c...@zip.com.au> wrote: > On 23Jan2016 01:52, boB Stepp <robertvst...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I guess no matter how new one is to OOP, one nevertheless brings one's >> preconceptions, however malformed, into the learning p

Re: [Tutor] Why do I not get an error when I mistakenly type "humdrum.sigh_strenght" instead of the correct "humdrum.sigh_strength"?

My current understanding is to avoid "from M import *", but it is good to know that this style of import will not capture names of the form "_name". -- boB ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Re: [Tutor] Why do I not get an error when I mistakenly type "humdrum.sigh_strenght" instead of the correct "humdrum.sigh_strength"?

Am I close to hitting the nail on the head here? Thanks, Alan! -- boB ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Re: [Tutor] Why do I not get an error when I mistakenly type "humdrum.sigh_strenght" instead of the correct "humdrum.sigh_strength"?

On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 12:55 PM, boB Stepp <robertvst...@gmail.com> wrote: > I still would like to do this via a method, but I am currently stuck > on how to replace ??? with the attribute name I would like to insert: > > class Dog(object): > ... > >

Re: [Tutor] Value of tracebacks to malicious attackers?

on a computer. This possibility occurred to me shortly after sending my email to the list, that being sloppy could provide an entry point to whatever server this hypothetical game was being hosted on. -- boB ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

[Tutor] Value of tracebacks to malicious attackers?

ications these concerns are probably inconsequential. I don't think I would be gravely concerned if someone cracked into my ticktacktoe game deployed to some freebie site. OTOH, if I was deploying an online payment system, I would be much more concerned. Awaiting your collect

Re: [Tutor] Why do I not get an error when I mistakenly type "humdrum.sigh_strenght" instead of the correct "humdrum.sigh_strength"?

On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 11:04 PM, Cameron Simpson <c...@zip.com.au> wrote: > On 22Jan2016 22:14, boB Stepp <robertvst...@gmail.com> wrote: [...] > Consider: this is information you want assicated with a specific object. > Therefore it really _is_ an arribute of the object

Re: [Tutor] Why is the name "self" optional instead of mandatory?

On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 5:49 AM, Steven D'Aprano <st...@pearwood.info> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 09:42:29PM -0600, boB Stepp wrote: > >> So I really only have one question: Why not make Python's >> *traditional* name, "self", mandatory? Why give the progr

Re: [Tutor] Why do I not get an error when I mistakenly type "humdrum.sigh_strenght" instead of the correct "humdrum.sigh_strength"?

so means that Python doesn't require a magic "undefined" value, > like Javascript has, or require declarations ahead of time, like static > languages such as Pascal and C require. I have come to enjoy this feature of Python as well! boB ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

[Tutor] Why is the name "self" optional instead of mandatory?

>>> mycat = Cat('Callie', 7) >>> mycat.happy_cat() Zzzz ... pu ... >>> mycat.whoami() My name is Callie and I am 7 years old. Now leave me be! I'm very sleepy!!! So I really only have one question: Why not make Python's *traditional* name, "self", man

[Tutor] Why do I not get an error when I mistakenly type "humdrum.sigh_strenght" instead of the correct "humdrum.sigh_strength"?

e method (1 argument). >>> humdrum.sigh_strenght 'high' But what about this? It seems like I can use the humdrum arguments outside of the Hmm class and merrily define new variables. Why is this? Is this potentially useful behavior? -- boB ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

[Tutor] Should a "data" directory have a __init__.py file?

directory. Yes, files will be read there, but there will be no code there. Is this correct? -- boB ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

[Tutor] How (and whether I should) use pkgutil.get_data()?

do if I used "with open..."? Is it iterable? [OK, I confess up front. I am being lazy here. I *could* create a file and try this out to see what happens, so I will understand if I get chided (or worse!).] 3) Should I be using relative imports in my projects? TIA! -- boB _

Re: [Tutor] s.insert(i, x) explanation in docs for Python 3.4 confusing to me

e]) > ... > [100] > [100, 200] > [100, 200, 300] > [100, 200, 300, 400] > [100, 200, 300, 400, 500] OK, Peter, all was going smoothly in boB-land until you added your "fix". Adding "or None" has me addled! I tried to clarify things in the interpreter (I removed

Re: [Tutor] What is the square brackets about?

On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 1:14 PM, boB Stepp <robertvst...@gmail.com> wrote: > > While learning I find it very helpful to either use IDLE or invoke the > Python interpreter in the shell and try these things out. Once I get > it to work, then I play around with the syntax an

Re: [Tutor] What is the square brackets about?

On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 2:33 PM, Alan Gauld <alan.ga...@btinternet.com> wrote: > On 16/01/16 19:35, boB Stepp wrote: > >> And so on. Until you (and I) can understand why the function produces >> these outputs with the given values of loc and thing, then we cannot >

Re: [Tutor] What is the square brackets about?

nterpreter in the shell and try these things out. Once I get it to work, then I play around with the syntax and deliberately try to break things and see what sorts of errors are generated, figure out the limits of what the syntax will allow, etc., until I feel I am starting to understand what the orig

Re: [Tutor] s.insert(i, x) explanation in docs for Python 3.4 confusing to me

Alex sent me this off-list. I hope he does not mind me sharing part of what he wrote on-list! On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Alex Kleider <aklei...@sonic.net> wrote: > On 2016-01-16 14:39, boB Stepp wrote: > > >>>>> mylist[:0 or None] >> >> [100, 200,

[Tutor] Is there a preference of "class MyClass:" or "class MyClass(object):" for Py3?

Pythonic style/preference question: For strictly Python 3 code, is there any preference for class MyClass: pass versus the more explicit class MyClass(object): pass ? TIA! -- boB ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe

Re: [Tutor] s.insert(i, x) explanation in docs for Python 3.4 confusing to me

On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 11:32 PM, Cameron Simpson <c...@zip.com.au> wrote: > On 15Jan2016 23:05, boB Stepp <robertvst...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Cameron Simpson <c...@zip.com.au> wrote: >>>>>>> >&g

Re: [Tutor] s.insert(i, x) explanation in docs for Python 3.4 confusing to me

On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Cameron Simpson <c...@zip.com.au> wrote: > On 15Jan2016 22:20, boB Stepp <robertvst...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I always get an empty list, which is actually what I was expecting, so >> I do not see how s[i:i] can ever equal [x]. >

Re: [Tutor] Is there a preference of "class MyClass:" or "class MyClass(object):" for Py3?

e really useful at work! I'll just copy this class to my thumb drive and ..." Perhaps for all too easily confused boB explicit might be better than implicit? Seems I read that somewhere recently ... Thanks, Steve! -- boB ___ Tutor maillist - Tut

[Tutor] s.insert(i, x) explanation in docs for Python 3.4 confusing to me

ngs.insert(-1, 'What the heck?!?') >>> things [0, 'Hmm...', 3, 'WhackABunny', 6, 'What the heck?!?', '?'] "...at the index..." to me would mean that 'What the heck?!?' should become the last item in the list. Again, the interpreter help gave wha

Re: [Tutor] new line to list of strings send by email

On Jan 8, 2016 11:03 AM, "Emil Natan" wrote: > > Hello list, > > I have a function which receives a string and sends it as a body of an > email. > > It is a part of a program which does certain checks on network > infrastructure. When a check fails I append error message to a >

[Tutor] antigravity?!?

3 -122.544543 FILE c:\python34\lib\antigravity.py Out of ever growing curiosity I went to the official Python docs site. Sure enough, no module named "antigravity" is listed. What else awaits as I explore Python??? I sure hope I don't stumble across

[Tutor] What potential problems might I encounter installing Anaconda?

of regarding Anaconda? 4) I have only tonight started looking into this. My initial impression is that updates and new Python package installations are done in Anaconda with a "conda" command. Does this mean that pip installations can no longer be done? TIA! Happy New Year

Re: [Tutor] OT: How best to use Git for multi-directory projects?

On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 11:32 PM, Martin A. Brown <mar...@linux-ip.net> wrote: > > Hello there boB, > > Hey, wait a second! What time zone are you in? You can't have 2016 > resolutions already. Not even the New Zealanders are there yet! Santa gave me a peek into you kn

[Tutor] OT: How best to use Git for multi-directory projects?

ing with a single .git file at the level of StudyBooks directory? Hoping to more effectively use Git in the new year! -- boB ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Re: [Tutor] reading an input stream

am) 1 >>> next(numStream) 2 Things work as you described. Is your example from Python 2? If yes, is this something that changed between Python 2 and 3? I have not made it to generators yet, but you have now whetted my appetite! TIA! boB ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Re: [Tutor] OT: How to automate user interactions with GUI elements of closed-source programs?

gt; first or you will almost certainly have to rewrite from scratch > (and after most every other upgrade of OS or app thereafter). > And don't even think of changing your system fonts - ever! > I am at the mercy of my IS department re p

Re: [Tutor] OT: How to automate user interactions with GUI elements of closed-source programs?

On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benja...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 24 Dec 2015 14:55, "boB Stepp" <robertvst...@gmail.com> wrote: [...] >> I find myself doing the same boring, repetitive tasks by hand, which >> amounts to copy

[Tutor] OT: How to automate user interactions with GUI elements of closed-source programs?

clicking all things that need to be clicked, etc.? This is mostly a Windows-based scenario, but if the techniques (if they exist) can be abstracted to any OS I can find plenty of uses elsewhere as well! TIA! Merry Christmas!!! -- boB ___ Tutor maillist

Re: [Tutor] interface

st about Tkinter (with a capital "T") as it is copyrighted 2000. Despite this I think it is still quite useful even if you are working in Python 3 as, as far as I can tell, t/Tkinter has not changed substantially in how the coding goes. -- boB ___ Tutor maillist

[Tutor] Are there any Python-based GUI builders for tkinter

3.5. TIA! -- boB ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Re: [Tutor] noob python question

Welcome to the tutor list. In order for us to help you please post the following: Python version Operating system The code you are running To trace back you are getting The trace back will be several lines of references to various programs and line numbers Once we have that information then it

Re: [Tutor] noob python question

nto issues just because there ARE differences between Python 2 and 3 syntax in some areas. HTH, -- boB ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Re: [Tutor] I don't understand why this program is said to be "not defined" when I test it.

Also: Briefly describe problem 22 Show us what you did to test the program It would be better to test for integer before doing a numeric comparison There is no need ever to compare a boolean expression to true or false. All you need is either if condition or if not condition. A good short cut for

[Tutor] How should my code handle db connections? Should my db manager module use OOP?

a real benefit here, but, then again, I am learning how to OOP during this project as well, so I don't have enough knowledge yet to realistically answer this question. TIA! -- boB ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change

Re: [Tutor] Do not understand why test is running.

On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 3:18 AM, Peter Otten __pete...@web.de wrote: boB Stepp wrote: In the cold light of morning, I see that in this invocation, the path is wrong. But even if I correct it, I get the same results: e:\Projects\mcmpy -m unittest ./test/db/test_manager.py [...] ValueError

Re: [Tutor] Do not understand why test is running.

On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Peter Otten __pete...@web.de wrote: boB Stepp wrote: On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 3:18 AM, Peter Otten __pete...@web.de wrote: boB Stepp wrote: ... I was not in the directory, E:\Projects\mcm. It is my understanding that if I start in a particular directory

Re: [Tutor] Do not understand why test is running.

On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Peter Otten __pete...@web.de wrote: boB Stepp wrote: And am I misreading the docs at https://docs.python.org/3/library/unittest.html#test-discovery

Re: [Tutor] Do not understand why test is running.

On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 1:16 AM, Peter Otten __pete...@web.de wrote: boB Stepp wrote: On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 10:13 PM, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info wrote: On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 09:01:50PM -0500, boB Stepp wrote: import unittest # import modules to be tested: import

Re: [Tutor] Do not understand why test is running.

On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 10:13 PM, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info wrote: On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 09:01:50PM -0500, boB Stepp wrote: import unittest # import modules to be tested: import mcm.db.manager class ManagerTestCase(unittest.TestCase): def setUp(self): # Insert

[Tutor] Do not understand why test is running.

(test.db.test_manager.ManagerTestCase) ... ok -- Ran 1 test in 0.000s OK Obviously I was not expecting this! Why did the test run? I thought it would not happen without those final two lines. -- boB

Re: [Tutor] Test discovery not locating module to test

library much to this point, and this is the first time I have tried this *package* structure of a project, so that aspect is all new to me. Thanks, Peter! boB ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https

[Tutor] Test discovery not locating module to test

.gitignore LICENSE.txt README.txt All __init__.py files are currently empty. Alex had asked a question very similar to this situation, and I thought I had understood the answer Laura had given, but apparently I do not understand. Where am I going wrong this time? TIA! -- boB

[Tutor] Is it possible to archive subsets of data from an SQLite db and restore it later?

that the method I was hoping to start coding tonight was ill-conceived! ARGH! To bed I now go ... Is TDD the programmer's version of writer's block? ~(:) -- boB ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https

[Tutor] How to test my code's interactions with SQLite db?

) will populate are in agreement? Or am I over-analyzing here? TIA! -- boB ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Re: [Tutor] How to test my code's interactions with SQLite db?

On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 4:03 AM, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info wrote: On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 01:18:06AM -0500, boB Stepp wrote: 1) It would seem that I need to install a stand-alone version of SQLite, so that I can create this test db. Either that or write a separate Python program

Re: [Tutor] How to test my code's interactions with SQLite db?

in-memory structures like io.StringIO useful, since they leave no residue once the tests are completed. Likewise thanks for opening my eyes to this perspective as well! -- boB ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change

Re: [Tutor] How to test my code's interactions with SQLite db?

On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Alan Gauld alan.ga...@btinternet.com wrote: On 16/08/15 23:29, boB Stepp wrote: http://www.sqlite.org/download.html You definitely want this. You treat it like the prompt in Pyython. I had just finished installing and testing the installation just before

Re: [Tutor] How to test my code's interactions with SQLite db?

On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 7:55 PM, Alan Gauld alan.ga...@btinternet.com wrote: On 17/08/15 00:52, boB Stepp wrote: sqlite3 .read populate_base_data.sql I am assuming that the .read command would be replaced inside the program by the cursor.executescript() method you mentioned

[Tutor] Where should unit test files go in a project directory structure and some related questions?

don't know what set-up needs setup.py would typically serve. I will have to search for answers to these. Does this cover everything I need to be concerned about as far as project organization so that I do not run into future problems? TIV! boB

[Tutor] How best to determine if a db exists before trying to open it? [Was: try and file existence]

On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Cameron Simpson c...@zip.com.au wrote: On 15Aug2015 15:20, Clayton Kirkwood c...@godblessthe.us wrote: Behalf Of Laura Creighton [..] To: boB Stepp robertvst...@gmail.com In a message of Sat, 15 Aug 2015 14:24:21 -0500, boB Stepp writes: I understand your

Re: [Tutor] Where should unit test files go in a project directory structure and some related questions?

On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 9:10 PM, boB Stepp robertvst...@gmail.com wrote: Right now I am trying to figure out how to arrange my unit test file(s). My initial thoughts are to have a single test directory with separate subdirectories corresponding to each folder which has source code

Re: [Tutor] try and file existence

On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 6:41 PM, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info wrote: On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 02:24:21PM -0500, boB Stepp wrote: I understand your points, but wonder then what is the intended use for os.path.exists()? That is, in what types of circumstances would it be both appropriate

Re: [Tutor] try and file existence

appropriate and safe to use? boB ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Re: [Tutor] Does composition only work with particular instances of objects?

, but this one wasn't his fault. So obviously the quality control process let this one slip through the cracks. -- boB ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

[Tutor] SQLite, Python and SQL injection attacks

will be rejected? Having seen this example, are there any other security surprises that I need to avoid by adopting certain coding techniques when I am using Python with SQLite? -- boB ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription

Re: [Tutor] cannot get a label message to display immediately

before your function returns its result, it could clear/rewrite the label. Additionally, tkinter has the ability to change the cursor to an hourglass. You could handle this analogously to what I already said. HTH, -- boB ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor

Re: [Tutor] How to effectively use a Student class with SQLite [Was Re: How to design object interactions with an SQLite db?]

a successful and utile bit of software, I might find others using the program. So your points suggest I should look for a more flexible approach that any potential user will find effective. -- boB ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe

[Tutor] How to effectively use a Student class with SQLite [Was Re: How to design object interactions with an SQLite db?]

Beware! Lengthy post!! Sign of a confused boB. ~(:) I believe that I understand now all of the things I want my project (Tentatively named Montessori Classroom Manager.) to *do*. But I am currently spinning my wheels on how to implement classes, SQLite, and the kivy UI, so that they all

[Tutor] Does composition only work with particular instances of objects?

will only work with particular instances of objects and not with any old objects created from their respective classes. Is this understanding correct? Thanks! -- boB ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options

Re: [Tutor] How to effectively use a Student class with SQLite [Was Re: How to design object interactions with an SQLite db?]

to have contact with their children, legal guardians who are not parents, etc. Ay, yi, yi! -- boB ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Re: [Tutor] How to effectively use a Student class with SQLite [Was Re: How to design object interactions with an SQLite db?]

Whew, Alan! You've given me quite a lot to mull over. Thank you very much for the time you've invested in your responses!! On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 6:38 PM, Alan Gauld alan.ga...@btinternet.com wrote: On 13/08/15 20:18, boB Stepp wrote: [...] Yes, that's a standard problem in any HR type

Re: [Tutor] Does composition only work with particular instances of objects?

On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 11:46 PM, Zachary Ware zachary.ware+py...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 11:31 PM, boB Stepp robertvst...@gmail.com wrote: I was looking at an example illustrating composition from the book, Introducing Python by Bill Lubanovic on p. 140: class Bill

Re: [Tutor] OT: Test to see if ibisMail app is truly sending in plain text

not be beats me, but unless there is a hidden setting or gesture I have missed, both by futzing around my actual iPad as well as searching the 'Net, then it is not available. -- boB ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription

Re: [Tutor] OT: Test to see if ibisMail app is truly sending in plain text

on the rare times when I must communicate with programming fora from my iPad. At least you have demonstrated that it is truly in plain text! I show in its entirety what I see just for the record: On Sat, Aug 01, 2015 at 10:27:27AM -0500, boB Stepp wrote: I apologize for the noise, but I felt

[Tutor] OT: Test to see if ibisMail app is truly sending in plain text

in plain text emails. If someone would tell me if I have been successful or not, I would be very appreciative! If successful, Python questions will soon follow. Thanks! -- boB ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change

[Tutor] How to design object interactions with an SQLite db?

sophisticated server-based db in the future incarnations of this project. Thoughts? -- boB ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

[Tutor] _ vs. _name vs. __name vs. name_ vs. __name__ usages

never violate this one? It seems that in some future edition of Python they might add any particular __name__ that I might try to use presently in their future version of Python (however miniscule that possibility might actually be). Thanks! boB -- boB

Re: [Tutor] Design question: Web-based vs. desktop-based vs. desktop-based with data backed up to web server with a tablet thrown in for all cases?

whip up some slick automation and reporting (using Python, of course!) I'll be glad to help you and your wife off-list if you'd like some pointers. Good luck! Dave boB: this was precisely the sort of solution 'already existing in the cloud' I was hoping you could find. I just didn't know

Re: [Tutor] Design question: Web-based vs. desktop-based vs. desktop-based with data backed up to web server with a tablet thrown in for all cases?

On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 1:27 AM, Steven D'Aprano st...@pearwood.info wrote: On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 12:49:50AM -0500, boB Stepp wrote: In this thread, I kept it very general on purpose. I was probing this community for their thoughts on two things: 1) Should I make the software web-based

Re: [Tutor] Design question: Web-based vs. desktop-based vs. desktop-based with data backed up to web server with a tablet thrown in for all cases?

On Sun, Jul 19, 2015 at 8:23 PM, boB Stepp robertvst...@gmail.com wrote: Would it be off-putting later to ask specific questions about implementing features of kivy on this list? I imagine that they would tend to be basic questions that would probably apply to any GUI development. But I'm

Re: [Tutor] Design question: Web-based vs. desktop-based vs. desktop-based with data backed up to web server with a tablet thrown in for all cases?

questions. Thanks for your thoughts! -- boB ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Re: [Tutor] Design question: Web-based vs. desktop-based vs. desktop-based with data backed up to web server with a tablet thrown in for all cases?

figuring out what she *really* needs! -- boB ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

[Tutor] Design question: Web-based vs. desktop-based vs. desktop-based with data backed up to web server with a tablet thrown in for all cases?

as to how to do any of this (yet!). As always, many thanks in advance! P.S.: My wife has researched existing software and has found everything lacking. She wants custom solutions to her custom needs. Oh, joy. But very interesting! -- boB ___ Tutor

Re: [Tutor] How to use tkinter with a touch screen device?

than tkinter. Does everything have to be written as classes? Thanks, Laura! -- boB ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Re: [Tutor] How to use tkinter with a touch screen device?

to be more an advertisement for a new touch screen monitor for Raspberry Pi. In fact most of the search results I got earlier involve the Raspberry Pi. Nothing leaped out at me. I may have to sift through those results more carefully if nothing else turns up. But thanks! -- boB

[Tutor] How to use tkinter with a touch screen device?

what happens! -- boB ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

[Tutor] Should error checking be duplicated for both functions if one function calls another one?

2 is only ever called by function 1? My inclination is to say yes, as in some future incarnation of the program function 2 might get called in new ways. What are your thoughts? -- boB ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change

Re: [Tutor] Should error checking be duplicated for both functions if one function calls another one?

error checks? boB ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Re: [Tutor] How to close a Tkinter window from a different thread?

that the pid will be reassigned to something other than one of my program's windows left open? -- boB ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Re: [Tutor] Help Learn python - Step by Step

that is self-contained and shows the exact problem you are experiencing; and, always post the *full* error report Python generates. HTH, -- boB ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https

Re: [Tutor] Questions (and initial responses) on using version control: Why cannot I push my single (master) branch to origin without an error occurring?

and voila! My files returned!! I don't totally understand everything yet, but it makes a lot more sense now. boB ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Re: [Tutor] Questions (and initial responses) on using version control: Why cannot I push my single (master) branch to origin without an error occurring?

On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 11:21 PM, Alex Kleider aklei...@sonic.net wrote: On 2015-04-30 20:39, boB Stepp wrote: I created my remote repository on, say my C-drive, with git init. I then copied and pasted a file to that location and put it under version control with git add filename.py. Next I

Re: [Tutor] Questions (and initial responses) on using version control: Why cannot I push my single (master) branch to origin without an error occurring?

On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Albert-Jan Roskam fo...@yahoo.com wrote: On Fri, May 1, 2015 5:39 AM CEST boB Stepp wrote: I created my remote repository on, say my C-drive, with git init. Not with 'git init --bare'? Should I have used the option --bare? I

Re: [Tutor] How to use Git from Windows PC for files on Solaris machine where Git cannot be installed?

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 11:38 PM, Dave Angel da...@davea.name wrote: On 04/30/2015 12:28 AM, boB Stepp wrote: The main danger as I see it is that if I am not careful, then the code on the dev environment could diverge from the state of code on my Windows PC, i.e., I forgot to do the scp part

Re: [Tutor] Ancient Python versions (was: Is there a way to store and later use comparison operators (, =, =, =, ) ?)

On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 12:15 AM, Ben Finney ben+pyt...@benfinney.id.au wrote: boB Stepp robertvst...@gmail.com writes: One problem I have with searching the Python documentation is this: https://docs.python.org/release/2.4.4/lib/lib.html If you actually need to read the documentation

Re: [Tutor] Questions (and initial responses) on using version control: Why cannot I push my single (master) branch to origin without an error occurring?

and got this: boB Stepp@DREAMMACHINE1 /e/Projects/project_name (master) $ git push origin master Counting objects: 5, done. Delta compression using up to 8 threads. Compressing objects: 100% (2/2), done. Writing objects: 100% (3/3), 328 bytes | 0 bytes/s, done. Total 3 (delta 0), reused 0 (delta 0

Re: [Tutor] Python 2.4 (was comparison operators)

of time. Even though the link you gave was for a package add, I just *know* there will be missing dependencies. Guess I will have to learn how to resolve all the issues that come up. Should be fun! Thanks, Laura! -- boB ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor

Re: [Tutor] How to use Git from Windows PC for files on Solaris machine where Git cannot be installed?

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Albert-Jan Roskam fo...@yahoo.com wrote: -- On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 4:21 PM CEST boB Stepp wrote: I now have Git installed on my Windows 7 PC at work. The files that I wish to put under Git version control exist on a Solaris 10

[Tutor] Is there a way to store and later use comparison operators (, =, =, =, ) ?

would not be surprised if there is a much better way! ~(:)) Thanks! -- boB ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Re: [Tutor] Is there a way to store and later use comparison operators (, =, =, =, ) ?

. But as you point out, not ready for it yet! -- boB ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

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