Re: [Tutor] IDLE Usage - was Interpreter Restarts

2007-07-23 Thread Robert H. Haener IV
Alan Gauld wrote: I've heard of screen but never used it. The biggest problem I can see with it is that you can only see one screen(sic) at a time or use split screens to see partial screens. Can you copy/paste between sessions? Does it run on a remote server within the SSH client? If so

Re: [Tutor] IDLE Usage - was Interpreter Restarts

2007-07-23 Thread Alan Gauld
Robert H. Haener IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote This is the second message I've seen asking some questions about screen which I already answered on the 17th. I know this is more than a little OT, I'm just wondering if somehow you didn't get that message. I was still on vacation on the 17th so

Re: [Tutor] IDLE Usage - was Interpreter Restarts

2007-07-23 Thread Eric Brunson
Alan Gauld wrote: Eric Brunson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen You can only see one screen at a time as far as I know. If you need split screens, use emacs. The wiki page shows a split screen session and claims you can split any

Re: [Tutor] IDLE Usage - was Interpreter Restarts

2007-07-23 Thread Robert H. Haener IV
Alan Gauld wrote: I was still on vacation on the 17th so wouldn't have seen it then. But I just checked the gmane archive and there is nothing from you on the 17th about screen. (Lots about vim and SSH etc but not about screen) Alan G. This is the last I'll add to this little derailment,

Re: [Tutor] IDLE Usage - was Interpreter Restarts

2007-07-23 Thread Eric Brunson
Eric Brunson wrote: Alan Gauld wrote: Eric Brunson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen You can only see one screen at a time as far as I know. If you need split screens, use emacs. The wiki page shows a split

Re: [Tutor] IDLE Usage - was Interpreter Restarts

2007-07-22 Thread Alan Gauld
Sara Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote I use an SSH editor set up by my school. If I type python at the prompt in SSH, I get the Python shell. My problem is, I can't open a GUI no matter what I subscribe to or purchase. OK, Personally I'd forget about a GUI, its not that big a win for

Re: [Tutor] IDLE Usage - was Interpreter Restarts

2007-07-22 Thread Dave Kuhlman
On Sun, Jul 22, 2007 at 10:39:51AM +0100, Alan Gauld wrote: OK, Personally I'd forget about a GUI, its not that big a win for Python IMHO. What I'd do instead is open two SSH sessions, in one of them I'd open a vim session (or emacs if you prefer) to edit my code. In the second

Re: [Tutor] IDLE Usage - was Interpreter Restarts

2007-07-22 Thread Alan Gauld
Dave Kuhlman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote If you find yourself opening multiple sessions to the same UNIX/Linux box, you might want to look into screen, which enables you to create and switch between multiple sessions. For more on screen, do man screen and look here:

Re: [Tutor] IDLE Usage - was Interpreter Restarts

2007-07-22 Thread Eric Brunson
Alan Gauld wrote: Dave Kuhlman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote If you find yourself opening multiple sessions to the same UNIX/Linux box, you might want to look into screen, which enables you to create and switch between multiple sessions. For more on screen, do man screen and look

Re: [Tutor] IDLE Usage - was Interpreter Restarts

2007-07-22 Thread Alan Gauld
Eric Brunson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen You can only see one screen at a time as far as I know. If you need split screens, use emacs. The wiki page shows a split screen session and claims you can split any session or have multiple sessions in split

Re: [Tutor] IDLE Usage - was Interpreter Restarts

2007-07-19 Thread sarliz73
Unfortunately, it's the Olympic style leaps now, the baby steps later. But I definitely agree with the process. I do have some information to plow through for now. Thanks to all! Sara I'd also recommend that you find and install a Windows version of whatever editor (whether vi, vim or

Re: [Tutor] IDLE Usage - was Interpreter Restarts

2007-07-19 Thread jim stockford
PROTECTED] To: Sara Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: tutor@python.org Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:30:12 PM Subject: Re: [Tutor] IDLE Usage - was Interpreter Restarts you want a very brief set of vi(m) commands-- a get-you-started tutorial that's nearly painless? I'll send if yes. jim On Jul

Re: [Tutor] IDLE Usage - was Interpreter Restarts

2007-07-17 Thread bhaaluu
Greetings, I use an editor called 'vim' on GNU/Linux. I invoke vim on the command-line by typing: vi (vi is a link to /usr/bin/vim) In my home directory I have a vim config file named .vimrc (that is: dot_vimrc [the dot makes it hidden]). The .vimrc file has some things in it that do some nice

Re: [Tutor] IDLE Usage - was Interpreter Restarts

2007-07-17 Thread Sara Johnson
, July 17, 2007 12:24:11 AM Subject: Re: [Tutor] IDLE Usage - was Interpreter Restarts Sara Johnson wrote: First off, yes, I was referring to (I guess you could say) a non-python editor. I use an SSH editor set up by my school. If I type python at the prompt in SSH, I get the Python shell

Re: [Tutor] IDLE Usage - was Interpreter Restarts

2007-07-17 Thread Sara Johnson
I initially thought Vim was sort of the same as Vi, just a few small differences or upgrades. Or have I got that confused? Sara - Original Message From: Tiger12506 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tutor@python.org Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:33:54 PM Subject: Re: [Tutor] IDLE Usage

Re: [Tutor] IDLE Usage - was Interpreter Restarts

2007-07-17 Thread Sara Johnson
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Re: [Tutor] IDLE Usage - was Interpreter Restarts

2007-07-17 Thread Robert H. Haener IV
Sara Johnson wrote: I initially thought Vim was sort of the same as Vi, just a few small differences or upgrades. Or have I got that confused? Sara Vim is Vi Improved. I only know enough about its workings to be functional, but as I recall there is practically no difference between vi and

Re: [Tutor] IDLE Usage - was Interpreter Restarts

2007-07-17 Thread Tiger12506
Yeah. But she's running Windows. Perhaps vim is scary to some Windows users. (I thought it was scary and annoying. Are all those ~ characters really in the file or not? I kept second guessing the editor.) --Sara, could you give an example of how it doesn't work? Just what happens? Just what

Re: [Tutor] IDLE Usage - was Interpreter Restarts

2007-07-17 Thread jim stockford
?   Sara - Original Message From: Tiger12506 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: tutor@python.org Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:33:54 PM Subject: Re: [Tutor] IDLE Usage - was Interpreter Restarts Yeah. But she's running Windows. Perhaps vim is scary to some Windows users. (I thought it was scary

Re: [Tutor] IDLE Usage - was Interpreter Restarts

2007-07-17 Thread jim stockford
you want a very brief set of vi(m) commands-- a get-you-started tutorial that's nearly painless? I'll send if yes. jim On Jul 16, 2007, at 9:26 PM, Sara Johnson wrote: First off, yes, I was referring to (I guess you could say) a non-python editor.  I use an SSH editor set up by my school. 

Re: [Tutor] IDLE Usage - was Interpreter Restarts

2007-07-17 Thread Sara Johnson
Sure, sounds good. Should I assume that 'any' Unix version allows Vim? Thanks, Sara - Original Message From: jim stockford [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sara Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: tutor@python.org Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:30:12 PM Subject: Re: [Tutor] IDLE Usage

Re: [Tutor] IDLE Usage - was Interpreter Restarts

2007-07-17 Thread Sara Johnson
- Original Message From: Robert H. Haener IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you name the SSH client (which I believe you've been calling an SSH editor) you're using, I might be able to give you step by step instructions for setting your client to use X Forwarding. If the SSH server doesn't

Re: [Tutor] IDLE Usage - was Interpreter Restarts

2007-07-17 Thread Robert H. Haener IV
Sara Johnson wrote: Everyone who has commented... I have XWin32It hasn't worked. I've talked to some people in the IT departments and they've given me things to check (boxes to check or uncheck) and that doesn't seem to make a difference. When I picked up these projects I was

Re: [Tutor] IDLE Usage - was Interpreter Restarts

2007-07-17 Thread Robert H. Haener IV
Sara Johnson wrote: Sure, sounds good. Should I assume that 'any' Unix version allows Vim? Thanks, Sara Vim is extremely ubiquitous, you can check to see if it's installed by entering 'which vim' at the shell. -Robert ___ Tutor maillist -

Re: [Tutor] IDLE Usage - was Interpreter Restarts

2007-07-17 Thread Robert H. Haener IV
Sara Johnson wrote: That's pretty much what I was attempting. I was advised to mark the Tunneling box (TunnelingX11 Connections), and it's checked. I don't see the X Forwarding option, however. Under that same tab I checked for anything else system-wise that would pertain and I don't see

Re: [Tutor] IDLE Usage - was Interpreter Restarts

2007-07-17 Thread Terry Carroll
Sara -- I'd also recommend that you find and install a Windows version of whatever editor (whether vi, vim or something else like emacs) you're going to be using on the Unix box. Play with it locally on your own machine for a while and get comfortable with it, and then start using the copy on

[Tutor] IDLE Usage - was Interpreter Restarts

2007-07-16 Thread Tiger12506
Luke, Jacob, et. al... Dumb question (may be slightly off course from what you two were discussing), but are you both describing how to get the IDLE to run along with the editor? I may just be getting too many things confused. I've tried to run IDLE, but that's not working. I have the

Re: [Tutor] IDLE Usage - was Interpreter Restarts

2007-07-16 Thread Sara Johnson
First off, yes, I was referring to (I guess you could say) a non-python editor. I use an SSH editor set up by my school. If I type python at the prompt in SSH, I get the Python shell. My problem is, I can't open a GUI no matter what I subscribe to or purchase. I have Python 2.3 and yes, I

Re: [Tutor] IDLE Usage - was Interpreter Restarts

2007-07-16 Thread Luke Paireepinart
Sara Johnson wrote: First off, yes, I was referring to (I guess you could say) a non-python editor. I use an SSH editor set up by my school. If I type python at the prompt in SSH, I get the Python shell. My problem is, I can't open a GUI no matter what I subscribe to or purchase. I