Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Semi-OT: InfoWars accounts suspended across digital media

2018-08-07 Thread PGage
I too am hot and smoked out (literally coughing as I type this) from ongoing fire storms on my near horizon, but it seems you don’t need me to explain my point to you. You understand it, just disagree with it. As you say, the problem is the danger posed by how arbitrary these denial of access decis

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Semi-OT: InfoWars accounts suspended across digital media

2018-08-07 Thread Kevin M.
On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 7:27 PM PGage wrote: > Right - so this is a very cogent and helpful analysis showing why this is > a high stakes discussion. I think you do not emphasize enough the role of > teaching consumers of this new media how to evaluate the quality and > credibility of a source tha

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Semi-OT: InfoWars accounts suspended across digital media

2018-08-07 Thread PGage
Right - so this is a very cogent and helpful analysis showing why this is a high stakes discussion. I think you do not emphasize enough the role of teaching consumers of this new media how to evaluate the quality and credibility of a source than I think is warranted. When I was a kid there was a l

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Semi-OT: InfoWars accounts suspended across digital media

2018-08-07 Thread Tom Wolper
On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 6:50 PM PGage wrote: > Well, I think it pretty clearly is a free speech issue (though not, for > the obvious reason, a First Amendment issue). Labeling it thus does not > mean Facebook et al are in the wrong; free speech is not an absolute value, > and we accept limitations

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Semi-OT: InfoWars accounts suspended across digital media

2018-08-07 Thread PGage
Well, I think it pretty clearly is a free speech issue (though not, for the obvious reason, a First Amendment issue). Labeling it thus does not mean Facebook et al are in the wrong; free speech is not an absolute value, and we accept limitations on it all the time. I think there is a good argument

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Semi-OT: InfoWars accounts suspended across digital media

2018-08-07 Thread Kevin M.
On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 3:25 PM Steve Timko wrote: > If porn and stripping are free speech issues then Alex Jones is a free > speech issue. > Certain businesses allow porn and stripping; other businesses do not. Both are legally allowed to make that choice. Pretty sure stripping is not allowed at

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Semi-OT: InfoWars accounts suspended across digital media

2018-08-07 Thread Tom Wolper
On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 6:25 PM Steve Timko wrote: > If porn and stripping are free speech issues then Alex Jones is a free > speech issue. > Alex Jones still has his website where anybody can stream his videos. This is not a free speech issue. -- You received this message because you are subsc

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Semi-OT: InfoWars accounts suspended across digital media

2018-08-07 Thread Steve Timko
If porn and stripping are free speech issues then Alex Jones is a free speech issue. ⁣Not sent from an iPhone​ On Aug 7, 2018, 1:27 PM, at 1:27 PM, "Kevin M." wrote: >I’m amazed at seemingly intelligent writers claiming this is a free >speech >issue. It’s a business decision. It turns out havi

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Semi-OT: InfoWars accounts suspended across digital media

2018-08-07 Thread Kevin M.
I’m amazed at seemingly intelligent writers claiming this is a free speech issue. It’s a business decision. It turns out having a guy in your establishment screaming threats and insults at children is bad for business. As others have said, if you ran a bookstore or managed an office and there was s

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Semi-OT: InfoWars accounts suspended across digital media

2018-08-07 Thread Steve Timko
I tuned in to Alex Jones' stream for a few minutes this morning. He said Apple's Tim Cook is leading the attack on him. Is that a dog whistle way of saying the gays are against him? He also said the Fox News owners owners won't let the Fox News hosts speak honestly about him getting yanked off Y

[TV orNotTV] HGTV buys Brady Bunch house

2018-08-07 Thread Kevin M.
Here’s a story... that totally ticks of Lance Bass https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/08/07/entertainment/hgtv-brady-bunch-house/index.html -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop rece

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Magnum PI reboot

2018-08-07 Thread Ron Casalotti
This was one of the seminal TV shows off my life. I watched the original run, the reruns, the syndicated shows (hated the openings off the ones where they changed the theme music due to rights fees), and Tom Selleck was and remains one of my favorite actors. As such, I shudder to think of what