Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Don Kirshner, producer and TV host, dead at 77

2011-01-19 Thread Tom Wolper
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:18 PM, donz5 wrote: > To me, DK catered to the lamest, most overly-slick elements in pop > music. Perhaps that was more a reflection of the times, but either > Kirshner truly believed in this crap as essential to our culture, or > he recognized the potential for big buck

[TV orNotTV] Re: Don Kirshner, producer and TV host, dead at 77

2011-01-19 Thread Diner
On Jan 18, 2:47 pm, Melissa Neal wrote: > I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall the night Kirshner gave the > Monkees their royalty checks and a new song to perform. The Monkees took the > checks and told Kirshner they would decide what to record from then on. When > Kirshner demand

[TV orNotTV] Re: Don Kirshner, producer and TV host, dead at 77

2011-01-19 Thread Michael
To a certain extent, I enjoyed the Monkees and a handful of their hits (guilty pleasures?) and must acknowledge some of the pop classics Kirshner published, but on all other counts, I heartily agree, donz. He struck me as a crass businessman. That said, he became an icon of sorts. Condolences to hi

[TV orNotTV] Re: Don Kirshner, producer and TV host, dead at 77

2011-01-18 Thread donz5
Someone sent me one of his two appearances. Huge bell-bottoms; it was the wrong audience. On Jan 18, 11:58 pm, Melissa Neal wrote: > On Jan 18, 2011, at 10:18 PM, donz5 wrote: > > > To me, DK catered to the lamest, most overly-slick elements in pop > > music. Perhaps that was more a reflection of

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Don Kirshner, producer and TV host, dead at 77

2011-01-18 Thread Melissa Neal
On Jan 18, 2011, at 10:18 PM, donz5 wrote: > To me, DK catered to the lamest, most overly-slick elements in pop > music. Perhaps that was more a reflection of the times, but either > Kirshner truly believed in this crap as essential to our culture, or > he recognized the potential for big bucks.

[TV orNotTV] Re: Don Kirshner, producer and TV host, dead at 77

2011-01-18 Thread donz5
To me, DK catered to the lamest, most overly-slick elements in pop music. Perhaps that was more a reflection of the times, but either Kirshner truly believed in this crap as essential to our culture, or he recognized the potential for big bucks. An older and more industry- accomplished Artie Fufkin

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Don Kirshner, producer and TV host, dead at 77

2011-01-18 Thread Tom Wolper
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 5:16 PM, donz5 wrote: > I'm likely in the minority, but I despised just about everything > Kirshner did and promoted in the music biz. I can't imagine coming to that conclusion at the time, even if it was justified. I can state this - I was a teenager during this period an

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Don Kirshner, producer and TV host, dead at 77

2011-01-18 Thread Melissa Neal
On Jan 18, 2011, at 5:40 PM, Bradford wrote: > I think Melissa was being sarcastic. Yep. Remember when Micky Dolenz and Peter Tork thought it would be a great idea to have Hendrix open for the Monkees? All those teenyboppers yelling "We want Davy!" while Hendrix vainly tried to play over the n

[TV orNotTV] Re: Don Kirshner, producer and TV host, dead at 77

2011-01-18 Thread donz5
om: "donz5" > To: "TVorNotTV" > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 4:15 PM > Subject: [TV orNotTV] Re: Don Kirshner, producer and TV host, dead at 77 > > On Jan 18, 2:47 pm, Melissa Neal wrote: > > On Jan 18, 2011, at 10:42 AM, Diner wrote: > > > >

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Don Kirshner, producer and TV host, dead at 77

2011-01-18 Thread Bradford
I think Melissa was being sarcastic. (Not surprising since she was like that in college. I'm surprised martians weren't mentioned...) - Original Message - From: "donz5" To: "TVorNotTV" Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 4:15 PM Subject: [TV orNotTV] Re:

[TV orNotTV] Re: Don Kirshner, producer and TV host, dead at 77

2011-01-18 Thread donz5
I (and I'm sure many others) e-mailed the Variety obit author regarding "I'm a Believer" and "You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling." The current copy's since edited out any reference to Kirshner's songwriting history. The earlier version (as copied from above): Don Kirshner, songwriter and producer, d

[TV orNotTV] Re: Don Kirshner, producer and TV host, dead at 77

2011-01-18 Thread donz5
I'm likely in the minority, but I despised just about everything Kirshner did and promoted in the music biz. On Jan 18, 4:23 pm, Tom Wolper wrote: > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Diner wrote: > > > I never actually saw "Don Kirshner's Rock Concert" - I was eight years > > old when it started

[TV orNotTV] Re: Don Kirshner, producer and TV host, dead at 77

2011-01-18 Thread donz5
On Jan 18, 2:47 pm, Melissa Neal wrote: > On Jan 18, 2011, at 10:42 AM, Diner wrote: > > > Songwriter and rock producer Don Kirshner died of heart failure on > > Monday at the age of 77 in Boca Raton, Fla. Kirshner wrote "You've > > Lost That Lovin' Feeling" and managed songwriting talent includin

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Don Kirshner, producer and TV host, dead at 77

2011-01-18 Thread Tom Wolper
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Diner wrote: > > I never actually saw "Don Kirshner's Rock Concert" - I was eight years > old when it started, and it was on way past my bedtime. But I do > remember Paul Shaffer's very funny impression of him on SNL. As with > Dan Aykroyd's impression of Tom Snyd

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Don Kirshner, producer and TV host, dead at 77

2011-01-18 Thread David Bruggeman
donz5 Subject: [TV orNotTV] Re: Don Kirshner, producer and TV host, dead at 77 This is worse than Carson taking 50% for Paul Anka's "Tonight Show Theme." On Jan 18, 12:22 pm, Diner wrote: > On Jan 18, 12:00 pm, donz5 wrote: > > > Barry Mann and Neil Diamond might ta

[TV orNotTV] Re: Don Kirshner, producer and TV host, dead at 77

2011-01-18 Thread donz5
This is worse than Carson taking 50% for Paul Anka's "Tonight Show Theme." On Jan 18, 12:22 pm, Diner wrote: > On Jan 18, 12:00 pm, donz5 wrote: > > > Barry Mann and Neil Diamond might take issue. > > > On Jan 18, 11:42 am, Diner wrote: > > > >http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118030420?refCatI

[TV orNotTV] Re: Don Kirshner, producer and TV host, dead at 77

2011-01-18 Thread Diner
On Jan 18, 12:00 pm, donz5 wrote: > Barry Mann and Neil Diamond might take issue. > > On Jan 18, 11:42 am, Diner wrote: > > >http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118030420?refCatId=16 > > > Don Kirshner, songwriter and producer, dies > > 'You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling,' 'I'm a Believer' among writ

[TV orNotTV] Re: Don Kirshner, producer and TV host, dead at 77

2011-01-18 Thread donz5
Barry Mann and Neil Diamond might take issue. On Jan 18, 11:42 am, Diner wrote: > http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118030420?refCatId=16 > > Don Kirshner, songwriter and producer, dies > 'You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling,' 'I'm a Believer' among writer's > works > By Sam Thielman [snip) -- TV