Re: [twitter-dev] Storing information from the API

2010-04-09 Thread Andrew Badera
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Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Upcoming changes to the way status IDs are sequenced

2010-04-09 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 05:03:29PM -0700, Naveen wrote: However, I wanted to be clear and feel it should be made obvious that with this change, there is a possibility that a tweet may not be delivered to client if the implementation of how since_id is currently used is not updated to cover the

[twitter-dev] Re: Attending Chirp? Let's get to know each other better, Before the Conference!

2010-04-09 Thread Arnaud Meunier
Hi Jonathan, Great thing you're organizing there! I still don't know how long I'll be able to stay in SF after Chirp (waiting an answer for one of my client's project) but we will meet each other for sure starting from the 13th! Arnaud - http://twitter.com/twitoaster Twitoaster -

[twitter-dev] Re: Fred Wilson article on Twitter API

2010-04-09 Thread Dewald Pretorius
With Fred being a Twitter board member, and with the enthusiasm for the article that was displayed by Twitter employees: 1) Do we all need to stop right now with developing any further gap filler type of functionality or apps? 2) Is there only a future in the ecosystem for the very minute

Re: [twitter-dev] Details on the Chirp Hack Day Showcase

2010-04-09 Thread Nigel Legg
I'd love to resent, but can't make it to Chirp. Maybe next year. On 9 April 2010 07:11, Doug Williams d...@twitter.com wrote: Hi all -- The Hack Day at Chirp is a remarkable opportunity for the Twitter Platform. It is the first time that the ecosystem and Twitter's extended team will meet

[twitter-dev] Re: help with xAuth

2010-04-09 Thread yves.v...@mac.com
On Apr 9, 7:23 am, John munz...@gmail.com wrote: Well I changed my code to use a library rather than try to do it manually and I got it to work. Coward ;-) Now for all subsequent requests am I suppose to sign requests using the oauth_token_secret that was returned? Yes. -- To

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Fred Wilson article on Twitter API

2010-04-09 Thread Nigel Legg
There will always be room for developers on the fringes, and novel ways of using twitter. I would hope that twitter will concentrate on the maintenance and development of the core system, and allow us to add the bells and whistles as required by our own set of users. On 9 April 2010 13:56, Dewald

[twitter-dev] Nearest Tweets using Geo

2010-04-09 Thread Jigu
Hi I am trying to retrieve nearest tweets on iPhone. To retrieve results I requested on http://search.twitter.com/search.json? geocode=38.9951%2C-76.9276%2C5mirpp=2 The problem is everything works correct, But I want each result should return latitude, longitude so further use but every

Re: [twitter-dev] Nearest Tweets using Geo

2010-04-09 Thread Raffi Krikorian
search uses a variety of different signals to determine whether a tweet should be placed near a specific latitude and longitude -- a geotag is just one of them. so, when querying the search API, you may receive more than just geotagged tweets. your best best is to just discard those which are

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Fred Wilson article on Twitter API

2010-04-09 Thread Raffi Krikorian
100% On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Nigel Legg nigel.l...@gmail.com wrote: There will always be room for developers on the fringes, and novel ways of using twitter. I would hope that twitter will concentrate on the maintenance and development of the core system, and allow us to add the bells

[twitter-dev] Re: Bulk User Relationship Lookup?

2010-04-09 Thread Orian Marx (@orian)
That's awesome. I'm putting it to use this weekend. (fully understanding the caveat that it might change) On Apr 9, 12:17 pm, Raffi Krikorian ra...@twitter.com wrote: at the risk of introducing features instead of fixing bugs, this endpoint may also be of use -- its a work in progress, and a

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Bulk User Relationship Lookup?

2010-04-09 Thread Raffi Krikorian
the items which may change include the way you specify users (right now, i think, it only supports user_ids), and perhaps a small change on the XML representation. i think the JSON one will stay stable (ish). On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Orian Marx (@orian) or...@orianmarx.comwrote: That's

[twitter-dev] Re: Fred Wilson article on Twitter API

2010-04-09 Thread mikawhite
Thanks Raffi, though I doubt your comment will make headlines :) -- To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Fred Wilson article on Twitter API

2010-04-09 Thread Raffi Krikorian
story of my life. On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 10:29 AM, mikawhite mikawh...@me.com wrote: Thanks Raffi, though I doubt your comment will make headlines :) -- To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject. -- Raffi Krikorian Twitter Platform Team http://twitter.com/raffi

Re: [twitter-dev] Storing information from the API

2010-04-09 Thread Abraham Williams
I heard from my cousin that it was cool... On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 01:43, Andrew Badera and...@badera.us wrote: Have you read the EULA(s) ? In legal matters it's usually best to do your own footwork on the fine print first and foremost, rather than trusting a list of Internet strangers. ∞

RE: [twitter-dev] Storing information from the API

2010-04-09 Thread Dean Collins
Come on Andy, he’s asking the Twitter Dev list , a highly appropriate place to ask if he couldn’t find the answer elsewhere. Hardly random strangers, this question must have come up before. Regards, Dean Collins Live Chat Concepts Inc d...@livechatconcepts.com

RE: [twitter-dev] Re: Upcoming changes to the way status IDs are sequenced

2010-04-09 Thread Brian Smith
John, Thank you. That was one of the most informative emails on the Twitter API I have seen on the list. Basically, even now, an application should not use an ID of a tweet for since_id if the tweet is less than 10 seconds old, ignoring service abnormalities. Probably a larger threshold

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Upcoming changes to the way status IDs are sequenced

2010-04-09 Thread John Kalucki
Your second paragraph doesn't quite make sense. The period between your next poll and the timestamp of the last status is irrelevant. The issue is solely the magnitude of K on the roughly sorted stream of events that are applied to the materialized timeline vector. As K varies, so do the odds,

[twitter-dev] Re: Fred Wilson article on Twitter API

2010-04-09 Thread Dewald Pretorius
Raffi, It will be wise of Twitter to release an official statement regarding continued developer support. Perhaps in the form of an Evan blog post. When you read the commentary on tech blogs following Fred's post, it should be clear that it is not only developers who see the threat of Twitter

RE: [twitter-dev] Re: Upcoming changes to the way status IDs are sequenced

2010-04-09 Thread Brian Smith
John, I am not polling. I am simply trying to implement a basic refresh feature like every desktop/mobile Twitter app has. Basically, I just want to let users scroll through their timelines, and be reasonably sure that I am presenting them with an accurate complete view of the timeline, while

[twitter-dev] Re: Fred Wilson article on Twitter API

2010-04-09 Thread jmathai
Libraries and examples. Understanding authentication isn't a prerequisite for building valuable apps. If a developer wants to understand OAuth then there is plenty of documentation out there for that. I think the biggest barrier is the complexity of beginning to understand the OAuth dance. If

[twitter-dev] Hello all, Question about multi gets

2010-04-09 Thread adamjamesdrew
I'm calling statuses/user_timeline http://api.twitter.com/1/statuses/user_timeline.format for a few users one by one. Is there a way to call the api and get a few users with one call? Thanks -- To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.

[twitter-dev] Twitter buying Tweetie

2010-04-09 Thread Tim Haines
Before anyone rants, let me say congratulations Loren, and congratulations Twitter. Awesome! Totally awesome! :-) Tim. -- To unsubscribe, reply using remove me as the subject.

Re: [twitter-dev] Twitter buying Tweetie

2010-04-09 Thread Abraham Williams
There is also an official blackberry app coming. http://mobile.blog.twitter.com/2010/04/official-twitter-for-blackberry-app-now.html On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 18:41, Tim Haines tmhai...@gmail.com wrote: Before anyone rants, let me say congratulations Loren, and congratulations Twitter. Awesome!

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

2010-04-09 Thread Dewald Pretorius
It's great for Loren. But, there's a problem, and I hope I'm not the only seeing it. Twitter has just kicked all the other developers of Twitter iPhone (and iPad) clients in the teeth. Big time. Now suddenly their products compete with a free product that carries the Twitter brand name, and that

[twitter-dev] Re: Fred Wilson article on Twitter API

2010-04-09 Thread funkatron
And so it's time for Twitter and its developer ecosystem to work together to create entirely new things that will shape the Internet in the coming years. I'm excited to see it happen. Because Twitter's gonna be taking over all the shit you've been doing so far! Welp, like used to say 3 years

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

2010-04-09 Thread Eric Woodward
I am also happy for Loren, he deserves it based purely on the quality of his product. I would like some clarification on the intended future of Tweetie for OS X. The plans for the iPhone and iPad have been made very very clear: stay away. Please clarify the plans for OS X. But at this point I

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

2010-04-09 Thread Tim Haines
Dewald, I'm surprised that you failed to mention that Twitter can also advertise the heck out of it on Twitter.com and via tweets etc - millions for further development - and very significant marketing resources available too. I disagree with your sentiment though. Twitter's free to build or

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

2010-04-09 Thread funkatron
Twitter did this to BB clients too, today. You think this is the last platform they'll do an Official Client on? Take a look at the OS X music playback app market to see the future of Twitter clients. Here's the shirt for the Chirp keynote: http://spaz.spreadshirt.com/ Have fun in SF next

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

2010-04-09 Thread Zac Bowling
Congrats, As a twitter user I'm intrigued. As a twitter developer I'm not hoping that you are really close to a statement to reassure us all its ok and maintaining an even playing field. Although renaming it Tweetie to Twitter for iPhone is a hurtful (being THE twitter client relegates the others

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

2010-04-09 Thread Isaiah
Loren, congrats man. I think the best man won. Hard work and dedication to perfection paid off in spades. You deserve the accolades (and the $$$). Oh and everyone else? Thanks for playing. I'll catch you all next week on the Facebook forums. Anyone have the odds on who Twitter will pick

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

2010-04-09 Thread Cameron Kaiser
I am also happy for Loren, he deserves it based purely on the quality of his product. I would like some clarification on the intended future of Tweetie for OS X. The plans for the iPhone and iPad have been made very very clear: stay away. Please clarify the plans for OS X. Let's just say that

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

2010-04-09 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
On 04/09/2010 07:44 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: I am also happy for Loren, he deserves it based purely on the quality of his product. I would like some clarification on the intended future of Tweetie for OS X. The plans for the iPhone and iPad have been made very very clear: stay away. Please

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

2010-04-09 Thread Cameron Kaiser
Uh ... market implies that people will actually *pay* for something. I haven't found that to be the case for command line tools. ;-) Don't know about OS 9, though - last time I was asked to use one of those (summer 2004), I politely declined and did everything on my dual-booted Windows XP /

Re: [twitter-dev] Hello all, Question about multi gets

2010-04-09 Thread Abraham Williams
Add the users to a list. http://apiwiki.twitter.com/Twitter-REST-API-Method:-GET-list-statuses Abraham On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 17:47, adamjamesdrew theikl...@gmail.com wrote: I'm calling statuses/user_timeline http://api.twitter.com/1/statuses/user_timeline.format for a few users one by

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

2010-04-09 Thread Abraham Williams
Congrats Loren. As for Tweetie for Mac. I would like to see it open sourced: http://act.ly/1w1 http://act.ly/1w1Abraham On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 20:22, funkatron funkat...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 9, 10:58 pm, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky zn...@comcast.net wrote: But that does raise an

[twitter-dev] What happened, happened.

2010-04-09 Thread Taylor Singletary
Let there be no doubt that not only will Chirp be an opportunity for developers to learn and talk to platform developers Twitter employees directly about what will obviously be a hot topic on everyone's mind, but Chirp will also in itself be a platform for Twitter to clarify existing capabilities

[twitter-dev] Re: What happened, happened.

2010-04-09 Thread funkatron
It would be awesome if some of those opportunities were offered to people who aren't able to afford to travel to SF. Of course, a lot of things would be awesome, but I'm not optimistic about them. Alas. -- Ed Finkler http://funkatron.com @funkatron AIM: funka7ron / ICQ: 3922133 /

Re: [twitter-dev] What happened, happened.

2010-04-09 Thread Isaiah
It would be great if Twitter would clarify things online. I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks that it's time to cut losses and move on - starting with Chirp. Frankly I'm not sure I see much point in attending Chirp any more. Isaiah On Apr 9, 2010, at 8:26 PM, Taylor Singletary

Re: [twitter-dev] What happened, happened.

2010-04-09 Thread Cameron Kaiser
Let there be no doubt that not only will Chirp be an opportunity for developers to learn and talk to platform developers Twitter employees directly about what will obviously be a hot topic on everyone's mind, but Chirp will also in itself be a platform for Twitter to clarify existing

[twitter-dev] Re: What happened, happened.

2010-04-09 Thread funkatron
It looks like it will be great if you want to have VCs and pundits talk to you for several hours. -- Ed Finkler http://funkatron.com @funkatron AIM: funka7ron / ICQ: 3922133 / XMPP:funkat...@gmail.com On Apr 9, 11:36 pm, Isaiah isa...@me.com wrote: It would be great if Twitter would clarify

Re: [twitter-dev] What happened, happened.

2010-04-09 Thread Chad Etzel
Sorry, but you #LOST me... -Chad On Apr 9, 2010, at 20:26, Taylor Singletary taylorsinglet...@twitter.com wrote: Let there be no doubt that not only will Chirp be an opportunity for developers to learn and talk to platform developers Twitter employees directly about what will

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

2010-04-09 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
On 04/09/2010 08:22 PM, funkatron wrote: Define energy. Spaz has been out there and FOSS since mid 2007. Moving off AIR and doing lots of other good things have been in my plans for a long time, but open source in no way means people want to help you. No one will be even close to your own

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

2010-04-09 Thread funkatron
StatusNet is in an interesting position. They can't, and I don't think have to, compete directly with Twitter. Offering both SAAS and self- hosted opportunities is compelling, and they have a pretty strong dev community. They already have Twitter and Facebook two-way bridges built in, which means

[twitter-dev] Re: Attending Chirp? Let's get to know each other better, Before the Conference!

2010-04-09 Thread Pistachio
Hope you'll all join the very large developer gathering the evening of 4/13 that emerged out of our hey let's get beer pizza before the conf starts: http://tweetvite.com/event/prechirp ALL are welcome. There will be beer, wine, pizza, photobooth, etc. See you in SF Warmly, Laura Fitton

Re: [twitter-dev] What happened, happened.

2010-04-09 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
On 04/09/2010 08:26 PM, Taylor Singletary wrote: Let there be no doubt that not only will Chirp be an opportunity for developers to learn and talk to platform developers Twitter employees directly about what will obviously be a hot topic on everyone's mind, but Chirp will also in itself be a

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

2010-04-09 Thread Raffi Krikorian
the way that i usually explain twitter.com (the web site) is that it embodies one particular experience of twitter. twitter.com needs to implement almost every feature that twitter builds, and needs to implement it in a way that is easy to use for the* lowest common denominator of user*. this

Re: [twitter-dev] What happened, happened.

2010-04-09 Thread Raffi Krikorian
Interesting thought: Twitter is the *only* major API I'm aware of that does *not* require a per-user or per-company API key. Sure, there's the oAuth *application* keys, but there's no API key that tells Twitter this activity is coming from Ed Borasky, regardless of IP address or account or

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

2010-04-09 Thread funkatron
It is, of course, possible to find niches here, and we can of course come up with ideas that could work. I certainly am not debating that. But you have to admit that this is a big, big bomb to drop in the development community; bigger than anything since *maybe* the Summize acquisition, and the

[twitter-dev] Re: What happened, happened.

2010-04-09 Thread Jaanus
Interesting thought: Twitter is the *only* major API I'm aware of that does *not* require a per-user or per-company API key. Sure, there's the oAuth *application* keys, but there's no API key that tells Twitter this activity is coming from Ed Borasky, regardless of IP address or account or

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

2010-04-09 Thread Rich
As a user and fellow developer I'm thrilled for Loren and what he's achieved... As a Twitter API and iPhone developer I'm shocked and feel like it's a kick in the teeth to us all. On Apr 10, 5:59 am, funkatron funkat...@gmail.com wrote: It is, of course, possible to find niches here, and we can

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Twitter buying Tweetie

2010-04-09 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
On 04/09/2010 09:20 PM, Raffi Krikorian wrote: - don't have time to sit and watch twitter 24/7/365. while i love to scan through my timeline, frankly, that's a lot of content. can you summarize it for me? can you do something better than chronological sort? Yeah ... I think a fair