[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-25 Thread twittelator
I've spent eleven days of reTweet contemplation and these thoughts percolated up: 1. twitter as a phenomena has been driven bottom up by the users 2. forcing new paradigms on our users will result in general unhappiness 3. presenting new paradigms as options to our users will allow happy migrat

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-19 Thread jim.renkel
Another question occurred to me as I think about this more and start designing the code that I will use with my site (http://twxlate.com). The statuses/retweeted_by_me method complements the statuses/ user_timeline method: user_timeline "Returns the 20 most recent statuses posted from the authent

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-18 Thread jim.renkel
Marcel: thank you for the quick response to my questions. Not surprisingly, your answers have raised a couple of more questions. :-) 1. What happens if I give a retweet id number to the status/show method? An error? The retweeted status message is returned along with information about all of its

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-17 Thread jim.renkel
Brian, Good catch on deleting a retweeted tweet! It was on my list of issues, by I forgot to include it in my post. Hopefully, the twitter folk will respond to this as fast as they added retweet_id so ya can delete retweets! :-) Jim On Aug 17, 1:33 pm, "Brian Smith" wrote: > jim.renkel wrote:

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-17 Thread Marcel Molina
Thanks for your questions. Responses inline... On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 10:31 AM, jim.renkel wrote: > > I have both practical and philosophical concerns and questions with > this proposal. Since I'm a little late in commenting on this, some of > these have already been raised. Where I know that is

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-17 Thread Brian Smith
jim.renkel wrote: > 7. If retweets and status updates are numbered from the same sequence > of IDs, then presumably statuses/destroy can be used to delete a > retweet. If retweets and status updates have separate ID sequences, > then I don't see any way to delete a retweet. I think the ability to

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-17 Thread jim.renkel
This post, containing philosophical issues with the proposed retweet API, is the promised companion to my post containing practical issues. I realize this retweeting API and UI are probably a fait a complis (sp?), modulo addressing practical concerns that I and others have raised, but I'll throw

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-17 Thread jim.renkel
I have both practical and philosophical concerns and questions with this proposal. Since I'm a little late in commenting on this, some of these have already been raised. Where I know that is the case, I'll keep it short, but include it to show my support (or not) of the issue. This post contains

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-17 Thread TjL
(Cards on the table: I say the following as someone who thinks that retweets are one of the biggest useless annoyances on Twitter.) 1) This change/addition would be great IFF retweets were then NOT part of replies/mentions. I've got a script that checks for mentions and then emails me them, and R

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-14 Thread stephane
Mark has a point there, Twazzup makes use of RTs from the search results to compute some relevancy/popularity scores. If we consider that those RTs are simple "forwards" or "likes", search result could simply provide each tweets with its number of RTs (total number and/or unique RT'ing user numbe

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-14 Thread Mark Nutter
So when someone uses this retweet feature, does it actually create a status update in the twitter system? In other words, if I retweet your post, and I use the search api and look for tweets posted by me, will that retweet show up as a search result? Is this new retweet feature going to kill a g

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-14 Thread hansamann
I think this is really great news, I just got a couple of qustions/ assumptions that I would like to see answered. I am working on a little retweet / relevancy app at http://groovytweets.org, currently just for the groovy community and I am wondering how the retweet detection I am doing (with all

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-14 Thread Dale Merritt
apps can theoretically already retweet and even do auto retweets. Only the method has changed. On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Dewald Pretorius wrote: > > Twitter, you will have to create new rules and limits around these new > methods. > > A new breed of spammy app is going to emerge that lev

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-14 Thread Shannon Whitley
The effort is great. Kudos to the team at Twitter for trying to tackle this. Unfortunately, from my view, Project Retweet uses a sledgehammer to drive a nail. The simplest solution is going to be the best, and I think the current changes are complicated and confusing. I agree with some of the

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-14 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> Twitter, you will have to create new rules and limits around these new > methods. > > A new breed of spammy app is going to emerge that leverages > retweeting. > > One where users can say, "Search for tweets that contain these > keywords, and automatically retweet them for me on my account." >

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-14 Thread Dewald Pretorius
For what it's worth, retweeter.com and myretweeter.com are already registered Dewald

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-14 Thread Dewald Pretorius
> > -Original Message- > From: Dean Collins > Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 9:34 AM > To: 'twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com' > Subject: RE: [twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API > > There are lots of apps that capture this informa

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-14 Thread Dean Collins
iginal Message- From: Dean Collins Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 9:34 AM To: 'twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com' Subject: RE: [twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API There are lots of apps that capture this information already. I'm not sure of the name o

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-14 Thread Dean Collins
r-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API Twitter, you will have to create new rules and limits around these new methods. A new breed of spammy app is going to emerge that leverages retweeting. One where users can say, "Search for tweets that contain these keywords, and automatical

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-14 Thread Dewald Pretorius
Twitter, you will have to create new rules and limits around these new methods. A new breed of spammy app is going to emerge that leverages retweeting. One where users can say, "Search for tweets that contain these keywords, and automatically retweet them for me on my account." So, you're going

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-14 Thread Rich
I totally agree with this as it'll allow our clients to just have to look for the one extra field and then we can query the other status ID to find out the originals. This way we have to handle the entire extra node and user node of the XML/json On Aug 13, 11:31 pm, stygz wrote: > @Sean P. > >

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-14 Thread Naveen Ayyagari
+1 on this. I think the ReTweet concept is more complex than the model in the Retweet API described. While twitter has always been a keep it simple service, I think you will find many users wont use this new functionality if they can't use it the way they do currently (with additional c

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-14 Thread Beier
I wonder who would get the eventual credit of a RT. Say I follow userA and userB, both Retweeted a tweet from userC, whom I'm not following. Do I see two tweets from userC from the new home timeline? If so, then with the implied implementation it would be confusing to users as the they are seeing

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-14 Thread Chris Babcock
On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:55:44 +0100 (BST) AlisonW wrote: > > The idea is great, but the execution (imho) leaves a lot to be > desired. > > There are two types of retweet in my experience: > > The first is the 'plain' duplication of the original tweet, with just > the "RT @scnreename " on the f

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-14 Thread chenyuejie
ReTweet = Vote + Comment(visible to all followers) I think ReTweet should be public thread chat(like reddit?), while Reply is private chat(visible to friends) what do you think? On Aug 14, 7:37 am, Neil Ellis wrote: > Cheers Guys > > I do like the way a lot of this grows organically. This is gr

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-14 Thread stk
I see two UI suggestions: 1) People may find it confusing to see the original author's name in their list, as it's not expected. I think it's better to show the name of the retweeter, rather than the original tweeter (although a link to the original tweet, in the form of the author's name, would

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-14 Thread AlisonW
The idea is great, but the execution (imho) leaves a lot to be desired. There are two types of retweet in my experience: The first is the 'plain' duplication of the original tweet, with just the "RT @scnreename " on the front, and the proposed API additions serve this very well. But many, inde

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-13 Thread Neil Ellis
Cheers Guys I do like the way a lot of this grows organically. This is great functionality and will save a lot of data mining :-) ATB Neil On 13 Aug 2009, at 21:52, Marcel Molina wrote: Retweeting has become one of the cultural conventions of the Twitter experience. It's yet another exam

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-13 Thread Kevin Mesiab
Bravo! Great job Twitter API Team!

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-13 Thread stygz
@Sean P. Precisely my thoughts. Just a simple "retweet_of_status_id" field on a status update will allow users to post their own thoughts (a.k.a. "keeping the conversation moving") and it would allow client apps to display/link original message however they like. Then readers have all the contex

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-13 Thread Ben Hall
Cool. One request. Could we have an extension to the search API so that I could search for a term which has been tweeted? Scenario: I want to know how many times a particular term has been included in a retweet which I can then aggregate to see how many times it has been retweeted as a total...

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-13 Thread Brian Smith
@janole wrote: > Will it be possible to "comment" on the retweeted tweet? If not, > people might just continue to use the current "RT ..." convention. > > Retweeting can be a way of acknowledging a tweet or disapproving a > tweet etc. > > If you search for "RT" in search.twitter.com you'll see

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-13 Thread Sean P.
I agree with janole. I believe the simple "Reply" concept would be best in this regard. For example, if I had a tweet that I found, regardless of who its from, I can retweet it, but link together the original tweet in the same manner that we do for the replies. Thus, we create a chain of where a r

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-13 Thread Josh Roesslein
One small suggestion I have for the home_timeline method: Maybe it would be nice to include a parameter flag that allows us to specify if we want retweets included in the response. With this flag set home_timeline would act just like the current friends_timeline. This allows us to give the user an

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-13 Thread David
Will there be a "retweeted from " field? I would love to get this data to see which Twitter client/tool aids and promotes spreading of tweets.

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-13 Thread Josh Roesslein
This new api looks very cool. Good work twitter API team. :) Josh

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-13 Thread janole
Will it be possible to "comment" on the retweeted tweet? If not, people might just continue to use the current "RT ..." convention. Retweeting can be a way of acknowledging a tweet or disapproving a tweet etc. If you search for "RT" in search.twitter.com you'll see a lot of commented retweets.

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-13 Thread Vincent Nguyen
Very useful! Hope it will be soon! It help us avoid search tweet to tracking reweet! 2009/8/13 Beier > > This is super awesome! Can't wait!

[twitter-dev] Re: Early developer preview: Retweeting API

2009-08-13 Thread Beier
This is super awesome! Can't wait!