I actually got this running. I used Wally's suggestion. I was already
using a subroutine named IS.PHANTOM.RUNNING ( ServiceName, IsRunning).
All I did was:
1) Run listusers() to get the list of users,
2) Parse out phantom users and run "PORT.STATUS PID {n} CALL.STACK"
against them,
3)
Being a VAR for Rocket Software, we support BDT. We have this Universe
customer that tells us about this new BDT release that got of the download
site. Oops, we did not know there was a new release. This release does not
match the one that we gave them.
Anyways, they have this multilevel fi
So, instead of sleeping for a minute (or close to it anyway) then loop
60 times and sleep for 1 second on each loop. I love it. :-)
Thanks,
Bill
Wally Terhune said the following on 4/2/2010 11:05 AM:
Not sure.
We do u
I am on digest, so apologies if this is a duplication of a suggestion
made earlier. We tend to use plain old record locks for our phantom
processes.
The record won't list but if you try to edit it, it will come back as
locked and prevents a second instance of the process from running.
Ex;
* Se
I second David's idea of using a READU also you can return exactly which
port/pid has the lock set, which might be helpful as well if the phantom
*shouldn't* be running!
I'd go a set further and have the phantom actually timestamp when it set
the READU lock.
Thanks David. This could work.
Bill
David Wolverton said the following on 4/2/2010 10:57 AM:
I do a variation on this -- since my phantoms now need to be 'multi-account'
(that is, 6 accounts, I need 6 phantoms - one per a
Bill:
On some sites we use 6 phantoms to do various activities. When the program
crashes, which we can remember only once in 5 years, the LOCK was released.
The other programs that need to phantom restarted it just as was shown in
the code below. And those locks are released on restart.
There i
Not sure.
We do use signaling to 'interrupt' the running process and get it to tell the
PORT.STATUS session what it is up to.
IIRC, we use SIGUSR2, specifically.
So - there could be some system calls that the udt process is in that cannot be
interrupted.
For instance, I tested a phantom that was
I do a variation on this -- since my phantoms now need to be 'multi-account'
(that is, 6 accounts, I need 6 phantoms - one per account) -- I do a READU
of an 'item' from a 'Paramters' file -- the "ItemID" I attempt to read is
"AcctName-PHANRUN"
Don't care if it exists or not -- as long as the R
Bruce:
Thanks, but the _PH_ file is cleaned up every night using the
CLEAR.ACCOUNT command (we use a number of 3rd party applications that
create _PH_ items throughout the day). When I check out the locks I see
it doesn't work as expected...
2 Dev (0)-> LIST.LOCKS
2 Dev (0)-> BPTEST LOCK 60
Is there anyway to use the COMO file (_PH_)? If a Phantom ends or crashes
the last line is something like " PHANTOM process has completed."
What happens when UDT is recycled? That has never happened to me. :-)
Bruce M Neylon
Health Care Management Group
__
Doug:
After reading the documentation for LOCK...
"Resources are not automatically unlocked by the termination of the
locking program. The UniBasic UNLOCK or ECL QUIT commands must release
them. Otherwise, you can release resources by executing the ECL
CLEAR.LOCKS command at UniData level."
Bill,
We actually run this program to do what Marc suggests. Just formats the
output a little nicer than the plain ps output.
PROGRAM LIST.PHANTOMS
STMT = '!sh -c "ps -ef |grep PHANTOM |grep -v grep"'
EXECUTE STMT CAPTURING CAP
NUM.LINES = DCOUNT(CAP,@AM)
CRT
CRT "uid pid ? ? st
Thanks Marc. I do the same. The problem is if the program crashes (or
UD gets recycled in the development environment) the dict item isn't
updated; thus I can't tell if the program is running or not (unless
there are zero phantoms running).
I think I can manage the phantom services with the
Doug:
That is an idea. I was hoping I could be more direct, but this should work.
Thanks,
Bill
Doug said the following on 4/2/2010 8:56 AM:
Bill:
Use the LOCK command with number 0 through 63. Have your phantom proce
Bill,
I have my Phantom processes update a status record (in the DICT of the
file related to the Process) with the date/time as the start of each
loop. Each program has a characteristic sleep time. The status record
also serves as a run flag which can be set to '0' to stop the phantom.
I built
Hi Bill,
Apologies. I had mis-understood the question. It looks like you have
sufficient responses for me to back out of this discussion.
Martin Phillips
Ladybridge Systems Ltd
17b Coldstream Lane, Hardingstone, Northampton, NN4 6DB
+44-(0)1604-709200
- Original Message -
From: "Bil
Wally:
Thanks. Using LISTUSER() I can figure out what processes are phantoms
but not what they're running. Thus, I have no way to figure out of my
BACKGROUND.SERVICE program is running (it sleeps and wakes up every
minute). When I do a PORT.STATUS PID {pid# of phantom} CALL.STACK
nothing i
For programs running on another process, use ECL PORT.STATUS command
PORT.STATUS PID CALL.STACK
Wally Terhune
U2 Support Architect
Rocket Software
4700 S. Syracuse Street, Suite 400 **Denver, CO 80237 **USA
Tel: +1.720.475.8055
Email: wterh...@rs.com
Web: www.rocketsoftware.com/u2
-Original
Martin:
@USER.TYPE only tells me if the "current" process (the one I'm logged in
on) is a phantom. It tells me nothing about other processes nor what
programs are running on those other processes. I think... :-)
Bill
---
Bill:
Use the LOCK command with number 0 through 63. Have your phantom process do
a "LOCK 60". Then you can test it in other programs using the else clause:
LOCK 60 THEN
UNLOCK 60
* Restart phantom
END ELSE
* Phantom is running do nothing
END
-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...
I believe if you drop to Telnet and type 'LISTU' it will show you the phantoms
as well as the PID.
ex) >LISTU
These are the UniVerse users presently sharing the system.
uid Pid User Name Terminal No Login Time
0 5564 \ phantom:
Question wasn't clear to me.
If looking at active processes, listuser shows which are phantoms (USRTYPE
column)
Also - UniBasic LISTUSER() function returns this as dynamic array for easy
parsing
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Hi Bill,
In UniData, does anyone know of a sure way to determine if a BASIC
program is running as a phantom?
Take a look at the @USER.TYPE variable. This contains 1 for a phantom.
Martin Phillips
Ladybridge Systems Ltd
17b Coldstream Lane, Hardingstone, Northampton, NN4 6DB
+44-(0)1604-70920
In UniData, does anyone know of a sure way to determine if a BASIC
program is running as a phantom?
We have a background service program in our application that has to be
running as a phantom whenever UniData starts. The ability to start
something when the dbms starts doesn't exist in UniData
Thanks Charles
I can man-handle the user through the login (in RAID) with this problem
ID and everything works as expected.
So the user is able to 'sudo'.
The question is why the user.id changes for one user (to 'root') but not
for others (which remain as their own login Id's).
John Rodgers
M
John,
I think this is an issue of how processes work in *nix, and how Universe looks
at the account. Whether you execute sudo as a "new" process or "replace" the
current process with the command you are executing (via "exec"), uv is running
as root (you can do SH -c "ps -ef | grep uv" to see t
I understand the security implications - and I can believe that there
may be better approaches. I am just not sure what they would be which do
not involve a lot of setup and management overhead.
It is what we have in place so I have to work with it.
This is for our development team only on a devel
Scott,
I don't know about HP, but in Unix versions I have worked with, a user has
to be in the system group or group 0 to be able to sudo. You might
doublecheck your man pages for HP-UX and the user's setup.
> For one user this is not working but I cannot spot any difference in his
> setup fro
Can you explain what you are trying to do?
you are creating a huge security hole with sudo because once the user is logged
into UniVerse as root they can shell out, as root, and do whatever they would
like to as root.
If you want to have a user that can perform UniVerse admin role, check out th
Have you tried the man pages of the OS and/or google for answers?
Guess it somewhat depends on your actual sudo and operating system
implementation,
but I relatively quickly found the following link
http://www.gratisoft.us/sudo/man/sudo.html
Check the various options and their interactions with
I have a problem with a developer login where we want to provide 'root'
privileges on our DEV box.
HP-UX B.11.11 U 9000/800 (tl)
UniVerse 9.6 in Pick flavor
This is done by changing the login profile to run something this:
exec /usr/local.bin/sudo /usr/opt/uv/bin/uv
This gives u
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