RE: [U2] Using ETL to extract data from UD to SQL

2008-05-13 Thread Marc Harbeson
EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marvin R. Fisher Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 4:46 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Using ETL to extract data from UD to SQL Using Dynamic Change Update in MITS removes the need for the select and merge method. You just have to know which applications

RE: [U2] Using ETL to extract data from UD to SQL

2008-05-13 Thread Marvin R. Fisher
: [U2] Using ETL to extract data from UD to SQL Well, MITS does a SELECT against their copy, then against the source copy and then merge the list. So - the larger it gets - well (Not to mention I think MITS is a hunk of glorified crap) I've had no issues using triggers. (My box is huge

RE: [U2] Using ETL to extract data from UD to SQL

2008-05-09 Thread Marc Harbeson
nn Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 3:33 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Using ETL to extract data from UD to SQL Well, this all contradicts what I've been told by our software vendor. Triggers just like ODBC supposedly totally kill the performance of UD (we are still on 5.2)

Re: [U2] Using ETL to extract data from UD to SQL

2008-05-09 Thread Mecki Foerthmann
Well, this all contradicts what I've been told by our software vendor. Triggers just like ODBC supposedly totally kill the performance of UD (we are still on 5.2). I was advised to stay away from them or use them sparingly, if think I really have to. I was also told not to use VSG, and that, I h

RE: [U2] Using ETL to extract data from UD to SQL

2008-05-08 Thread Boydell, Stuart
There is going to be a lot of effort for any ETL (Extract, transform, load) on an 'heritage' database. You will have to deal with weird table/file structures (who did it and why is it that way?!!) and dirty data to get to a set of data suitable for your DW/reporting requirements. If you have deter

RE: [U2] Using ETL to extract data from UD to SQL[AD]

2008-05-08 Thread Robert Houben
D] On Behalf Of Marc Harbeson Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 5:32 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Using ETL to extract data from UD to SQL I demoed Epiror's variant of this product, and found that is does indeed look quite nice, but it still is a batch update / scheduled u

Re: [U2] Using ETL to extract data from UD to SQL

2008-05-08 Thread Jeff Schasny
I used Cognos Impromptu/Transformer/Powerplay about 8 years ago to develop a data warehouse product for a Universe based ERP vendor and at the time it accessed whatever database you pointed it at via ODBC. Is this not still the case? If so, here are some points to ponder: 1. ODBC is a horrendou

RE: [U2] Using ETL to extract data from UD to SQL

2008-05-08 Thread Marc Harbeson
I demoed Epiror's variant of this product, and found that is does indeed look quite nice, but it still is a batch update / scheduled update tool. Therefore myself and a few friends went forward with building something that can perform transactional updates using triggers, BCI and ODBC client drive