Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

2014-12-11 Thread Mike Hammett
I also believe that airPrism doesn't do anything about co-channel either, only adjacent channel. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com To: ubnt users ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent:

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

2014-12-11 Thread Clay Stewart
Disagree Blair, it IS important for CPEs, especially in 2.4Ghz to have better interference controls. We are have issues where subscribers have multiple 2.4Ghz devices in broadcast mode. The issue is... you shoot home in 2.4Ghz (10-20 CW), you have a router in 2.4Ghz (20 CW), then maybe one or two

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

2014-12-11 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 12/10/14, 20:16, Blair Davis wrote: AirPrism was/is supposed to return to us the benefits, (adjacent channel rejection, improved sensitivity), of the original dual superheterodyne Hermes I and Intersil Prism II chipsets as opposed to the current direct conversion Atheros chipsets. I don't

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

2014-12-11 Thread Ben Moore
Sorry, this one got lost in the mix of emails. You can see some some specs here: http://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/RocketAC/Rocket5ac_DS.pdf - page 5 Thanks, Ben On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Jason Bailey j284...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks again Ben,that is exactly what I was hoping for. Not to

[Ubnt_users] AC-PTP Mode Question

2014-12-11 Thread Mike Hammett
Is there some optimization in the new AC-PTP radios for PtP links or is it just limiting it to one association? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org

Re: [Ubnt_users] AC-PTP Mode Question

2014-12-11 Thread Sriram Dayanandan
PTP and PTMP use completely different TDMA framing methods. So the difference is just limiting to one association. Secondly the airPrism versions of the Rockets have different SKUs for PTP and PTMP because they use different hardware filters. PTP supports 10,20,30,40,50,60 and 80 MHz channel

Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNT VOIP

2014-12-11 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
I can tell you CTI will outsource their netsapiens platform (if that is what you are asking) - Original Message - From: Clay Stewart To: Ubiquiti Users Group Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 11:00 AM Subject: [Ubnt_users] UBNT VOIP If you are planning on using these

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

2014-12-11 Thread Rory Conaway
Are the AC products shipping yet? Rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 10:00 AM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs Sorry, this one got lost in the mix of

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

2014-12-11 Thread Mike Hammett
They have been, IIRC. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 11:51:48 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

2014-12-11 Thread Ben Moore
The R5AC-LITE and PBE-5AC-500 are in channel. The NBE-5AC-19, R5AC-PTP and PBE-5AC-620 start this month... On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Are the AC products shipping yet? Rory *From:* ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

2014-12-11 Thread Randy Cosby
So I have a question AirPrism ... Is it a one-way filter, or two-way? In other words, I know it cleans up the incoming signal, but does it also clean up the outgoing signal so you have less bleed into adjoining channels? On 12/10/2014 8:05 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: Well we've been running

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

2014-12-11 Thread Rory Conaway
I know the 500 was shipping as I was looking to move backhauls to them soon from the 400’s but didn’t know about the others. rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 10:51 AM To: Ubiquiti Users

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

2014-12-11 Thread G. Nicholas
Ben, Can you clarify something for me, after reading the AC spec document that you forwarded to the list this morning, it appears the only product that has airprizm is the Rocket5ACPTP, which does NOT support PTMP. The Rocket5AC-lite has PTMP with the new 7.1 firmware but no AirPrism or GPS

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

2014-12-11 Thread Mike Hammett
The AC-PtMP with AirPrism is on its way. I haven't heard anything about GPS in the AC line. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: G. Nicholas gnicho...@nwnc.net To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

2014-12-11 Thread Ben Moore
Hi Garth - The AC PTMP product with airPrism is expected to be released this month. Thanks, Ben On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:12 AM, G. Nicholas gnicho...@nwnc.net wrote: Ben, Can you clarify something for me, after reading the AC spec document that you forwarded to the list this morning, it

[Ubnt_users] While Ben is paying attention to suggestions...

2014-12-11 Thread Mike Hammett
Dual band AF. AF5 and AF24 in one unit. You can enjoy epic throughput most of the time, but then you can reliably put the AF further apart than 2 miles (in the Chicago metro anyway). I assume you'll respond with forum posts of people doing 40 mile AF24 shots, but no. I want full speed and

Re: [Ubnt_users] While Ben is paying attention to suggestions...

2014-12-11 Thread Matt Hoppes
I have 3 mile AF24 hops that maintain full modulation in the eastern US... On 12/11/14, 1:24 PM, Ben Moore wrote: 40 mile AF24 links are some of the shorter ones... I don't see a dual band AF happening...Way too many variables/challenges. How come you wouldn't just do AF24 as primary and

Re: [Ubnt_users] While Ben is paying attention to suggestions...

2014-12-11 Thread Josh Reynolds
Thosepeople are crazy, and now you've got me running link calcs to see how this is even possible josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/11/2014 09:24 AM, Ben Moore wrote: 40 mile AF24 links are some of the shorter ones... I don't see a dual band AF

Re: [Ubnt_users] While Ben is paying attention to suggestions...

2014-12-11 Thread Ben Moore
forgot the ;-) On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Those people are crazy, and now you've got me running link calcs to see how this is even possible josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/11/2014 09:24 AM,

Re: [Ubnt_users] While Ben is paying attention to suggestions...

2014-12-11 Thread Mike Hammett
I'm not expected to produce reasonable requests, just requests. ;-) Twice the tower rent in many cases. People without more sophisticated networks would have a hard time in weighting or aggregating the independent connections. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [Ubnt_users] While Ben is paying attention to suggestions...

2014-12-11 Thread Mike Hammett
Not when it rains. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 12:25:04 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

2014-12-11 Thread Josh Reynolds
I can't express how sad that makes me :[ josh reynolds :: chief information officer spitwspots :: www.spitwspots.com On 12/11/2014 09:31 AM, Ben Moore wrote: Hi Randy - This is inbound. Thanks, Ben On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com mailto:dco...@infowest.com

Re: [Ubnt_users] While Ben is paying attention to suggestions...

2014-12-11 Thread Mike Hammett
*shrugs* I highly value Doug Watkin's opinion\evaluations. He has had 2 mile AF24 links in the Chicago metro that dropped during rain. They matched the path calc when it was clear. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message -

Re: [Ubnt_users] While Ben is paying attention to suggestions...

2014-12-11 Thread Mike Hammett
Blue pill? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Ben Moore ben.mo...@ubnt.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 12:29:23 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] While Ben is

Re: [Ubnt_users] While Ben is paying attention to suggestions...

2014-12-11 Thread RickG
3 miles is about it for AF24. On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Matt Hoppes mhop...@indigowireless.com wrote: I have 3 mile AF24 hops that maintain full modulation in the eastern US... On 12/11/14, 1:24 PM, Ben Moore wrote: 40 mile AF24 links are some of the shorter ones... I don't see a

Re: [Ubnt_users] While Ben is paying attention to suggestions...

2014-12-11 Thread Josh Luthman
SFP SFP SFP SFP SFP SFP SFP SFP SFP SFP SFP SFP SFP SFP SFP SFP SFP SFP Bit more expensive = more margin for you Less failures/RMAs More units sold ??? PROFIT!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Ben

Re: [Ubnt_users] While Ben is paying attention to suggestions...

2014-12-11 Thread Nick Olsen
I wish we could run 3 miles.. Down here in the swamp we try to keep them under 1 mile. Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 1:53 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group

Re: [Ubnt_users] While Ben is paying attention to suggestions...

2014-12-11 Thread James Howard
What is this pill obsession that you've got today? From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 12:41 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] While Ben is paying attention to suggestions...

Re: [Ubnt_users] While Ben is paying attention to suggestions...

2014-12-11 Thread Mike Hammett
My first post on pills, I believe. On AFMUG there has been quite a bit of pill talk, but I don't think by me. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: James Howard ja...@litewire.net To: Ubiquiti Users Group

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

2014-12-11 Thread Mike Hammett
Well, to just cause less noise for everyone. Be a good neighbor. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

2014-12-11 Thread Ben Moore
This would add a decent amount to the cost of the CPE... On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: Well, to just cause less noise for everyone. Be a good neighbor. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

2014-12-11 Thread Mike Hammett
I'm referring to outbound on the AP, which is what I think Randy was talking about. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Ben Moore benjahmo...@gmail.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent:

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

2014-12-11 Thread Ben Moore
Either way it would add quite a bit. Maybe we do AP with this... On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Mike Hammett wispaubntus...@ics-il.net wrote: I'm referring to outbound on the AP, which is what I think Randy was talking about. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

2014-12-11 Thread Steve Barnes
Rockets, AirFibers, and any PTP options would be great to have a SFP option. (with power Lugs) Steven Barnes GM PCSWIN.com Howard LLC. From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ben Moore Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 2:43 PM To: Ubiquiti Users

Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

2014-12-11 Thread Mike Hammett
Yes, power lugs... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com To: Ubiquiti Users Group ubnt_users@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 2:03:50 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket

Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNT VOIP

2014-12-11 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
have not played with them directly myself but may - Original Message - From: Clay Stewart To: Ubiquiti Users Group Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNT VOIP Yes, that is one of the things I am asking pretend you are talking to