Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu panel background proposal

2006-09-09 Thread Chuck Huber
On Sun, 2006-09-10 at 02:04 +0200, Álvaro Medina Ballester wrote: 4.- As Jan and others told, transparent looks make less readable everything. Below I pasted a quick experiment to show the extremes of what we're up against if we decided to make the panels totally transparent.  I thi

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu panel background proposal

2006-09-09 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Álvaro Medina Ballester wrote: Hi!!! I'm agree with jmak and Jan, transparent panel makes less readable everything but, yes, first impression can be cool. But if we put it in Edgy because it's cool we're going very wrong. Let me explain some short reasons: 1.- First of all, the gnome pa

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu panel background proposal

2006-09-09 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
jmak wrote: I have the feeling that transparency will meet with the same fate as the flash intro. Now, it is cool and fun but it has plenty of drawbacks. Disregarding their resource hungriness, they diminish text legibility and in general make the desktop look more chaotic and disorganized

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu panel background proposal

2006-09-09 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
PingunZ wrote: Honestly I don't like that at all, sorry. The transparant background may look nice when no windows are open but when there are, it looks very cheap. What I prefer is a background image ( not-transparant ) and it should fit the GTK theme. I attached a screenshot of my panel. I

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu panel background proposal

2006-09-09 Thread Álvaro Medina Ballester
Hi!!! I'm agree with jmak and Jan, transparent panel makes less readable everything but, yes, first impression can be cool. But if we put it in Edgy because it's cool we're going very wrong. Let me explain some short reasons: 1.- First of all, the gnome panel, the 'start' Windows bar, the Finder ba

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu panel background proposal

2006-09-09 Thread jmak
Remember, about 7-8 years back, during the bubble, when flash became the coolest tool to build websites? Every self-respecting company, at that time, wanted a flash intro for its web site, with elaborate animations and music. When visiting a site, first you had to watch the movie, otherwise you wer

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu panel background proposal

2006-09-09 Thread PingunZ
+1 Too, No transparancy, just a basic background image.like in the link I posted but with other colors.2006/9/9, Jan Claeys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Op za, 09-09-2006 te 18:13 +0200, schreef Petr Tomeš:> please keep the following issue on mind during exploring transparency > anywhere:>> Ensure that for

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu panel background proposal

2006-09-09 Thread Jan Claeys
Op za, 09-09-2006 te 18:13 +0200, schreef Petr Tomeš: > please keep the following issue on mind during exploring transparency > anywhere: > > Ensure that foreground and background color combinations provide > sufficient contrast +1 Transparency almost always makes things less readable... --

Re: [ubuntu-art] Workflow management

2006-09-09 Thread Jan Claeys
Op do, 07-09-2006 te 08:15 -0400, schreef Nathan Eckenrode: > There is some interesting work happening over here at > http://kollabor8.toegristle.com/ I am not certain of the software > which is being used , but I think that this is the sort of idea that > you are looking for. It seems like this

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu panel background proposal

2006-09-09 Thread Jonathan Zeppettini
Hi, not sure if it has been discussed previously however would it be possible to have a tinted translucency for the panel? For example it could appear as a translucent brown thus providing good contrast as well as the desired effect. On 9/9/06, Chuck Huber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2006

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu panel background proposal

2006-09-09 Thread Chuck Huber
On Sat, 2006-09-09 at 18:13 +0200, Petr Tomeš wrote: > Hello all, > please keep the following issue on mind during exploring transparency > anywhere: > > Ensure that foreground and background color combinations provide > sufficient contrast > https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubuntuloo

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu panel background proposal

2006-09-09 Thread Petr Tomeš
Hello all, please keep the following issue on mind during exploring transparency anywhere: Ensure that foreground and background color combinations provide sufficient contrast https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubuntulooks/+bug/37603 Thank you. Petr Tomeš 2006/9/9, jmak <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu panel background proposal

2006-09-09 Thread jmak
On 9/9/06, Troy James Sobotka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2006-09-09 at 11:35 -0400, jmak wrote: > > > My only problem with the transparent panel is that it makes the > > desktop look too dull, too monochromatic. > > Ideas jmak? The only thought about translucency > is that it is a quick

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu panel background proposal

2006-09-09 Thread jmak
On 9/9/06, Troy James Sobotka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2006-09-09 at 10:43 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > > > > I far prefer the "semi-transparent" panel idea that someone posted a > > little while ago. I think the Panel should have a very distinctive > > look, and not be Grey at all

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu panel background proposal

2006-09-09 Thread PingunZ
Honestly I don't like that at all, sorry.The transparant background may look nice when no windows are open but when there are, it looks very cheap.What I prefer is a background image ( not-transparant ) and it should fit the GTK theme. I attached a screenshot of my panel. I don't want ubuntu to hav

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu panel background proposal

2006-09-09 Thread Troy James Sobotka
On Sat, 2006-09-09 at 10:43 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > > I far prefer the "semi-transparent" panel idea that someone posted a > little while ago. I think the Panel should have a very distinctive > look, and not be Grey at all! That goes for the Panel menu items as > well as the Panel itself

Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu panel background proposal

2006-09-09 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
I far prefer the "semi-transparent" panel idea that someone posted a little while ago. I think the Panel should have a very distinctive look, and not be Grey at all! That goes for the Panel menu items as well as the Panel itself. Mark -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com