[ubuntu-art] Simple Hardy theme proposal: Orange Glossy (or Clearlooks)

2008-03-21 Thread Greg K Nicholson
Try this: in System → Preferences → Appearance → Theme → Customise: 1. set your Controls to Glossy (or alternatively, Clearlooks) 2. set your Window Border to Glossy (alternatively, Clearlooks; for the extra-conservative, Human) 3. change all the text colours to black 4. change selected items'

Re: [ubuntu-art] creamlooks-gtk

2008-03-21 Thread Julian Oliver
i don't understand why there is this pixel-eating, thick translucent border around the windows. on laptops (which increasingly average at 1024x768 pixels) this would be especially impractical. why not just do away with the strange exaggerated border? it's like the theme attempts minimalism but

Re: [ubuntu-art] creamlooks-gtk

2008-03-21 Thread Sebastian Billaudelle
I didn't found a good theme. But it doesn't belong to creamlooks. See the last post from xl_cheese! I'm using that now (Thank you, xl_cheese!)... I'll update the wiki... cheers stein Am Freitag, den 21.03.2008, 15:03 +0100 schrieb Julian Oliver: i don't understand why there is this

Re: [ubuntu-art] creamlooks-gtk

2008-03-21 Thread Sumit Agarwal
I fully agree. I like the OS X border-less style, but of course that necessitates a compositing engine + drop shadows. I think a very minimal window border would go a long way to professionalizing and de-cartooning the GNOME desktop. As I see it right now, the wide borders reflect the very

Re: [ubuntu-art] creamlooks-gtk

2008-03-21 Thread Cory K.
Sumit Agarwal wrote: I fully agree. I like the OS X border-less style, but of course that necessitates a compositing engine + drop shadows. I think a very minimal window border would go a long way to professionalizing and de-cartooning the GNOME desktop. As I see it right now, the wide

Re: [ubuntu-art] creamlooks-gtk

2008-03-21 Thread Sumit Agarwal
Yes, this is somewhat true, but wouldn't at least the titlebar edges remain grab-able? It also begs a question I personally have been wondering for some time: is it possible to force GNOME to draw a resizer in the corner on all windows, including those lacking a status- bar? -Sumit On Mar

Re: [ubuntu-art] creamlooks-gtk

2008-03-21 Thread xl cheese
There was a bug opened a while back about it being hard to resize the window as it currently is design. There was a suggestion to make a transparent border that was thicker so it would be easier. I think that bug was closed and labeled not a bug. With the new metacity supporting

Re: [ubuntu-art] creamlooks-gtk

2008-03-21 Thread Sumit Agarwal
For basic interface issues I strongly believe we should not rely on graphic/processing-intense features (which is part of why I think the drop shadows should also not be relied upon). Ubuntu needs to maintain identical usability on powerful or legacy systems, with the addition that on a

Re: [ubuntu-art] creamlooks-gtk

2008-03-21 Thread Troy James Sobotka
Sumit Agarwal wrote: As I see it right now, the wide borders reflect the very annoying hard-outlined GNOME style icons. This is a trend that seems to be self-perpetuating for no good reason (look at the icon sheets for Firefox 3. See the Linux set? Why are we making new icons that look

Re: [ubuntu-art] creamlooks-gtk

2008-03-21 Thread Sumit Agarwal
I think that John Hicks' design is a perfect target goal for Ubuntu art. One of the strongest strengths of his design is that it does not attempt to be 'Windowsish', 'Macish', or 'Vistaish'. Its an independent highly-effective attractive and usable style. One of the main goals in Firefox 3

Re: [ubuntu-art] creamlooks-gtk

2008-03-21 Thread Julian Oliver
..on or around Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 12:46:03PM -0400, Cory K. said: Sumit Agarwal wrote: I fully agree. I like the OS X border-less style, but of course that necessitates a compositing engine + drop shadows. I think a very minimal window border would go a long way to professionalizing

Re: [ubuntu-art] creamlooks-gtk

2008-03-21 Thread Julian Oliver
..on or around Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 01:00:22PM -0500, xl cheese said: There was a bug opened a while back about it being hard to resize the window as it currently is design. There was a suggestion to make a transparent border that was thicker so it would be easier. I think that bug was

Re: [ubuntu-art] creamlooks-gtk

2008-03-21 Thread Julian Oliver
..on or around Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 11:35:26PM +0100, Julian Oliver said: personally, i prefer to use DWM as my primary work WM. in my setup i have 1 pixel thin border for all windows. when near the corner of any window i can simply hit ALT-LMB and the cursor changes to the resize cursor.

Re: [ubuntu-art] Simple Hardy theme proposal: Orange Glossy (or Clearlooks)

2008-03-21 Thread sylvain marc
Good choice of colors ! 2008/3/21, Greg K Nicholson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Try this: in System → Preferences → Appearance → Theme → Customise: 1. set your Controls to Glossy (or alternatively, Clearlooks) 2. set your Window Border to Glossy (alternatively, Clearlooks; for the

Re: [ubuntu-art] creamlooks-gtk

2008-03-21 Thread Sumit Agarwal
It doesn't fall under K.I.S.S. because 90+% of users would never dream that a keyboard button would function as a toggle upon the cursor. If you can't get around just fine without a keyboard plugged in, you haven't succeeded in your interface design. You wouldn't believe how many Windows

Re: [ubuntu-art] creamlooks-gtk

2008-03-21 Thread Julian Oliver
..on or around Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 04:35:34PM -0700, Sumit Agarwal said: It doesn't fall under K.I.S.S. because 90+% of users would never dream that a keyboard button would function as a toggle upon the cursor. then how does it somehow occur to them that ALT-LMB will grab a window? that

Re: [ubuntu-art] creamlooks-gtk

2008-03-21 Thread Sumit Agarwal
Hrm, I'm not sure I'm following your first point. Precisely what I was arguing was that most users are *not* aware that ALT-TAB cycles through windows, and that such behavior is not intuitive (though useful). ALT-LMB grabbing a window is news even to me ;) But your TabletPC suggestion is

Re: [ubuntu-art] creamlooks-gtk

2008-03-21 Thread George Brooke
Is is not possible to have a wider window border appear when your mouse hovers near the edge of the window or would this not be possible with current GTK/Meatacity themes? solar.george On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:36:44 -0700 Sumit Agarwal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, this is somewhat true, but

[ubuntu-art] Linework (WAS creamlooks-gtk)

2008-03-21 Thread Troy James Sobotka
George Brooke wrote: Is is not possible to have a wider window border appear when your mouse hovers near the edge of the window or would this not be possible with current GTK/Meatacity themes? Not possible. The ubuntu-art crowd has grown to include a few coders however. Perhaps one of them

Re: [ubuntu-art] Linework (WAS creamlooks-gtk)

2008-03-21 Thread Sumit Agarwal
While they're at it, we could use some other hacks too that are in a somewhat similar vein. Most of all the hack I would love (and think is fairly crucial) is the ability to specify different scrollbars/titlebar widgets with active and inactive windows. How many times have you tried to