** Description changed:
- *** Problems with the default Bluetooth indicator on Xfce are caused by
- a different, unrelated bug. See
- https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glipper/+bug/1203888 ***
+ [Impact]
- downgrading to the previous version, indicator-
-
PPA with fixed package:
https://launchpad.net/~a-j-buxton/+archive/indicator-sound-gtk2
ppa:a-j-buxton/indicator-sound-gtk2
This doesn't use the workaround from the bug report. It fixes it in a
way which is hopefully compatible with other desktops. It needs
testing though, on systems with both
Alistair,
I can confirm that this indicator-sound-gtk2 package update SUCCEEDS on
2 different Xubuntu Saucy machines in my house: one with an Intel i915
kernel module and one with a gma500_gfx kernel module (Modesetting Xorg
video driver).
Thank you. Now I can start psychedelik.com radio
Just wanted to add to the list of people having this same issue. All
three of my machines (two Xubuntu and one Ubuntu Studio) that I updated
now don't have a functioning indicator on the sound. I am not keen to
having to install a workaround that includes holding updates to keep
the workaround
@eqwalker
This is a high priority bug, you can see it at the top of this page
This command will implement the workaround
sudo wget http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=4HHup7ZF -O
/usr/share/dbus-1/services/indicator-sound.service
then logout and login
to verify it worked run this
md5sum
Thank you for your quick response. That has worked. I will pass this
command on to my friends for them to run in a terminal window. Glad to
see the priority is high. As I have mentioned I am new to the linux
world and quite leery of messing around with commands in a terminal
window but simply
In reply to comments #71, #72, #74 and #104:
The variable $(arch) on 32-bit systems returns the value i686, not i386, so
the workarounds using it do not work if you are in 32-bit unity.
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in that case lets make this long line another 25% longer
Exec=/bin/sh -c 'if [ -n $(ps -U $USER | grep xfce4-panel) ]; then
/usr/lib/indicator-sound-gtk2/indicator-sound-service;else /usr/lib/$(if [
$(arch) == i686 ];then echo i386;else
Have rollbacked 3 computers to mint 15 (ubuntu 13.04) and get rid of
this bug, it's a 13.10 feature. So my suggestion is a rollback of the
affected packages to the 13.04 state. What has happened to the ubuntu
quality, are we back into the never change a running system timeline?
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In response to comment #90:
I still observe the same issue on a fresh Xubuntu 14.04 amd64.
The difference to the Saucy release is that I can't apply the fix from comment
#5, because I don't have /usr/share/dbus-1/services/indicator-sound.service.
Where is the file now? Is it dynamically
#5 worked for me also, but #85 doesn't for bluetoot with Headset. I
found out that 'pulseaudio-module-bluetooth' is not instaled by default.
After instalation and executing 'pulseaudio -k' I got working my headset
with 'blueman' from ubuntu repository.
Maybe you will need to call 'pulseaudio -k'
#5 STOP WORKING after a sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade.
Bluetooth is working but, who cares when you cannot get a sound out of
your laptop?
Cannot figure out how to downgrade to Raring applet.
So I will reinstall the hole system with Precise (or fedora xfce spin).
The great feature
you have to reapply #5
if the sound indicator packages updates w/out a fix you have to reapply it
there is another solution in #75 it should work better with multiple
desktop environments installed and you have multiple users/sessions
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Gaspar (#97),
You shouldn't have to do this but I would suggest either re-apply #5
manually or use the automation in #69. Do you really want to re-install
and go through re-customizing your laptop all over again? Personally, I
am using the automation route.
All,
Why is this major annoyance
Thank you very much for your quick response guys, really appreciated.
Of course I reapplied #5, the result was the same I used to have: The
applet starts to work, but you have no sound. The funny thing is that
when you open the sound preferences, the graphic shows you the sound
bars going up and
Hi guys!
Better safe then sorry, so i thought i might remind that the sound
preferences for pulse are now under:
main menu = Audio Production = Mixer And Card Control
Perhaps your sound is routed to another device in the pulse control? It
sort of make sens if you can see the sound in the VU
Yes #93 is right, downgrading to the xfce-indicator-plugin from raring
and set to hold fix _all_ problems. Things can be so easy, thanks Set.
ii xfce4-indicato 0.5.0-1ubunt amd64 the working one
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Thanks god i have one laptop with mint (13.04) and i will not upgrade it
to prevent this mess. The battery applet is also affected and shows no
menu, the whole indicator is bugged since 13.10.
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On 2013-11-20 08:59, EricDHH wrote:
Thanks god i have one laptop with mint (13.04) and i will not upgrade it
to prevent this mess. The battery applet is also affected and shows no
menu, the whole indicator is bugged since 13.10.
Sorry for interfering with my n00biness. But this downgrade you
Two things:
- Workaround in #5 kind of worked for me: The indicator appeared ok, but
still no sound. I didn't got sound until I installed all optional add-
ons of the pulseaudio package in the Software Center and execute a sudo
alsa force-reload.
- Certainly having no sound at all was a clear
I'm curious, since we have a fairly simple work-around, why not just
implement the workaround in the ISO until the actual bug is fixed? From
a public relations standpoint, it seems to me that would be the best way
to address this very visible bug.
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Appears to be fixed in xubuntu 14.04 (pre alpha), anyone able to
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The printer indicator is also bothered by this problem, no menu
available. Any bugfix idea for that?
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The workaround in #5 worked for me, too. Thanks!
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The workaround in #5 worked for me, thanks.
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** Description changed:
+ *** Problems with the default Bluetooth indicator on Xfce are caused by
+ a different, unrelated bug. See
+ https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glipper/+bug/1203888 ***
+
downgrading to the previous version, indicator-
sound_12.10.2daily13.04.12-0ubuntu1_amd64
So, message #84, amended:
1. sudo apt-get purge blueman
2. Download and install blueman from
http://packages.debian.org/stable/x11/blueman, based on the appropriate
architecture
3. Install the downloaded debian blueman package
4. sudo echo blueman hold | sudo dpkg --set-selections
(Bear in
Got it, the debian package works well for #76. Thank you
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So, message #76, amended:
1. sudo apt-get purge blueman
2. Download and install blueman from
http://packages.debian.org/stable/x11/blueman, based on the appropriate
architecture (near bottom of the page).
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Same problem here. Fresh install of Xubuntu 13.10 amd64, sound applet
not working, but sound is playable with aplay. Installed Ubuntu 13.10
amd64 on the same machine (Lenovo T510 ), sound and applet working ootb.
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By affecting XFCE, this bug also indirectly affects Ubuntu Studio.
** Also affects: ubuntustudio
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
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Ubuntu Studio (and other) XFCE folks:
1) Does the patch of message #69 provide a usable work-around for the
indicator-sound issue?
2) Does the operational work-around described in message #76 work for the
bluetooth issue?
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I don't know what you mean by message #69 but if you're talking about
the work-around described here:
http://askubuntu.com/questions/360806/volume-indicator-issue-after-
xubuntu-13-10-upgrade
then yes, I have it working on 3 systems.
On 10/25/2013 08:29 AM, Richard Elkins wrote:
message #69
#69 works for me, but blueman was installed so #76 did not work for me.
Reinstall of blueman also did not help, no menu available.
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You have to purge blueman (sudo apt-get purge blueman), then install the
debian tree blueman for it to work. I just grabbed the deb from here:
http://packages.debian.org/stable/x11/blueman. Also make sure to not
update it.
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@EricDHH, I had to install blueman from the debian tree in order to get
it to work, as the debian one uses a plain old applet that. Not an idea
solution, in any way, but it worked for me.
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Hello,
had te same bug and the exec bugfix works fine for the sound applet. But
have the same error with the bluetooth applet, what kind of bugfix is
needed there?
See attachment, same problem. Cannot switch or use bluetooth from the
missing menu.
** Attachment added: bluez applet in panel
just noticed my workaround was specific to the 64bit version, the 32bit
workaround line is this:
Exec=/bin/sh -c 'if [ -n $(ps -U $USER | grep xfce4-panel) ]; then
/usr/lib/indicator-sound-gtk2/indicator-sound-service;else
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/indicator-sound/indicator-sound-service;fi'
pq, I didn't test on a 32-bit OS either because I don't have one. I
should have eyeballed that in any case. Message #65 does not cover the
x86 case.
I am using the patch in message #5 instead (no conditional code). This
is fine because the script exits in a non-XFCE case ahead of time.
Might also be good to check for LXPanel, as it has the same problem and
the fix works for it as well.
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You can use /usr/lib/$(arch)-linux-gnu/indicator-sound-service to ensure
you get the right architecture to invoke.
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@Theredbaron i booted up the lubuntu 13.10 64bit iso the other day and did not
have this issue i assumed it only happens if you use the xfce4-panel on lxde
@Kevin thanks
Exec=/bin/sh -c 'if [ -n $(ps -U $USER | grep xfce4-panel) ]; then
/usr/lib/indicator-sound-gtk2/indicator-sound-service;else
I am on Lubuntu 13.10 64bit. Now Lubuntu doesn't come with indiactor-
volume by default, but as the default volume applet sucks so I installed
it with indicator-volume-gtk, turned it on in the indicator settings,
and I got the same error. It didn't work till I did the fix.
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then try this, this should work with the lxpanel and the xfce4-panel
Exec=/bin/sh -c 'if [ -n $(ps -U $USER | egrep lxpanel|xfce4-panel) ];
then /usr/lib/indicator-sound-gtk2/indicator-sound-service;else
/usr/lib/$(arch)-linux-gnu/indicator-sound/indicator-sound-service;fi'
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PS Yes, I took my own medicine! (:
** Attachment added: 1208204.tar.gz
How come saucy has been released so untested. It just pissing me off.
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It has been tested, by myself and others, they just never fixed this extremely
obvious bug and since it has been released with this one i doubt it will be
fixed and ever be released to saucy as the proper fix will be a large rewrite
that adds GTK3 support
we may get a fix one day via the xfce
please fix i just installed xubuntu 13.10 today, everything is fine
but sound control
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complaining does not get it fixed any faster, to get it working there is a
temporary workaround in comment #41
if you need help applying it ask on the forums (ubuntuforums or askubuntu)
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I have this bug too, in Xubuntu. Upgraded today.
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pq,
In 1969, it was understandable that we fixed our Unix bugs ourselves
using punched cards or an actual tty. The user was either a
Mathematician or a Scientist. In 2013, we have quite a few purely end-
users that have never opened a terminal window (and have no wish to).
They have been led to
Lubuntu is effect by this as well.
Thanks to #5 for the fix. I need this a bit, and was worried I would
have to go back a release to get it working.
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Is this an UI glitch only? Anyone with a notebook or fancy keyboard can
tell me if you can adjust volume with hardware keys?
A bit awkward such an apparently simple-to-fix bug been rolling since august,
but ok so.
#27 solution seems quite good btw.
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yes keyboard controls work, but if you need to change the audio output device
(eg switch to hdmi) it can be annoying without the menu entry to open the
window, i don't know another way to get that dialog window to open
notice comment #41 it has a update or two for #21
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Just upgraded from Xubuntu 13.04 to 13.10 x64 today on a virtual machine
and separately on a physical laptop, same problem as this guy on both:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2174926p=12790972#post12790972
I have to open the pulseaudio volume control app to change the volume.
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I filed bug #1231219 which may be a duplicate of this one but I'm not
sure. When using default icon themes, I have a normal speaker icon
(which does not work) but when I use Oxygen or Gnome icons, I get a
white box with a red circle and a slash through it.
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o lançamento)
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This bug is also present in the core Ubuntu release - It's not isolated
to Xubuntu.
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Still present in release? ...
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Yes still an issue
On Oct 16, 2013 8:11 PM, Shuhao shu...@shuhaowu.com wrote:
Still present in release? ...
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It is a shame this didn't get addressed - despite there being some fixes
that could at least be worked from. Now anyone installing the upcoming
xubuntu are going to have a non working volume control. Get ready for a
lot more bug reports - reflects a little poorly too on ubuntu as a whole
-
** Changed in: indicator-sound (Ubuntu)
Status: Fix Released = Triaged
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Status: Triaged = Fix Released
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Status accidentally got changed to fixed in error! Admin, please reset
to triage. I
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Same bug here. Xubuntu 13.10 daily build 32-bit (07/10/2013) fresh
install
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A bug is not assumed to be fixed if it is not marked Fixed
Released/Committed , so please do not make me too comments, as it only
generates e-mail and will not get the issue fixed faster. Use the link
under the title if you would like to indicate it affects you.
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Recently clean installed Xubuntu 13.10 beta 2 x64 and this bug is
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The volume control icon on the indicator plug-in is dark grey rather
than the usual 'active state white'. It does nothing but I can still
control volume by running
I just tried Xubuntu 13.10 beta 2 : bug still present
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@Evan and wkr: There is no need for me too comments unless the bug has
been marked fixed released and you still experience it. They only
generate noise and extra e-mail (like this comment). The best way to
help is to use the link at the top of the bug to indicate it affects
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I just installed 13.04 and did an immediate update to 13.10. This bug is
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opps: missed a closing quote
chad@chad-VirtualBox:~$ cat
/usr/share/dbus-1/services/indicator-sound.service[D-BUS Service]
Name=com.canonical.indicator.sound
Exec=/bin/sh -c 'if [ -n $(ps -U $USER | grep xfce4-panel) ]; then
/usr/lib/indicator-sound-gtk2/indicator-sound-service;else
The part that matters (the dbus service) is launched using dbus
activation. That means that when any program tries to access the dbus
service at namespace com.canonical.indicator.sound, the dbus daemon
will run the activation script (the bit you want to patch). In theory
this should never happen
true but $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP is null when it runs
using xfce4-panel pid would only effect someone using multiple sessions
and different DEs which would be limited to certain combinations for
example Xubuntu and Lubuntu DEs would get along with each other but they
would not get along with the
Also, checking for the PID isn't the greatest idea if there are multiple
user sessions. It might be better to check the XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP
environment variable.
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perhaps this will solve that issue with the workaround:
Exec=/bin/sh -c 'if [ -n $(ps -U $USER | grep xfce4-panel) ]; then
/usr/lib/indicator-sound-gtk2/indicator-sound-service;else
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-sound/indicator-sound-service;fi'
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I do think the issue is that the xfce4 panel is in gtk2, and the gtk2
sound indicator was written specifically to support xfce. see:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1048217
Given what's in 1048217, I think comment #27 needs to be adjusted to
work for lubuntu as well, and then it can be a
If lubuntu is also affected this adjustment will handle it:
Exec=/bin/sh -c 'if [ -n $(pidof xfce4-session)$(pidof lxsession) ]; then
/usr/lib/indicator-sound-gtk2/indicator-sound-service;else
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-sound/indicator-sound-service;fi'
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about using xfce4-penel with pid does the panel start before the file is called
that launches the sound indicator? or does the panel launch the sound indicator?
if the panel or the indicator applet is what calls sound indicator that would
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So this is my final analysis:
The sound indicator has two parts: there is the part which gets loaded
to the panel and displays the icons and menus, and then there is the
dbus service which coordinates between the indicator and all the audio
players. Both these parts exist in both the gtk2 and
The indicator-sound package was just re-released with the same bug. I
had to use the patch in message #5 above to re-apply the work-around.
Version from dpkg = 12.10.2+13.10.20130913-0ubuntu1
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@Richard: Every time there's an update, it's going to overwrite the change. Put
the package on hold to prevent updates:
echo indicator-sound hold | sudo dpkg --set-selections
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I realise that. Not trying to be a pest.
I just want the indicator-sound maintainer to understand that the package
is being rereleased for other reasons but unfixed w.r.t. to this bug and
the fix would be so simple. I don't mind reapplying the patch until a fix
is permanent.
On Sep 14,
Richard, the suggestion in comment #5 is a workaround/hack for xfce
users to use the old gtk2 sound indicator until this gets sorted out.
It is not a suitable patch or fix by any means, since users of other
desktop environments would be forced to use the old gtk2 indicator as
well.
Seeing as how
Hmm... what you've written here doesn't really make sense. You can only
use the gtk2 indicator in the current xfce packages. There is absolutely
no way to load gtk3 indicators without installing a custom version of
several xfce components.
So whatever the problem is, it's a problem with the gtk2
** No longer affects: indicator-bluetooth (Ubuntu)
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Without comment #5 i would not have this possible fix
Possible solution:
Replace the Exec= line in /usr/share/dbus-1/services/indicator-sound.service
with this line
Exec=/bin/sh -c 'if [ -n $(pidof xfce4-session) ]; then
/usr/lib/indicator-sound-gtk2/indicator-sound-service;else
Ok - there's two things going on here.
First, when you get the bluetooth icon with an empty menu, that isn't
indicator-bluetooth. It is blueman, which uses appindicator. Something
is wrong there so it sends an empty menu.
Second, indicator-bluetooth is also broken - but in this case it's so
@a-j-buxton: so I take it the bluetooth indicators should be separate
bugs split off from this one?
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@dtl131 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glipper/+bug/1203888/
covers blueman-applet - that bug also affects glipper.
indicator-bluetooth and indicator-sound I am not sure of - they could be
the same bug or they could be different.
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indicator-bluetooth is now working for me. It still produces the error
about com.canonical.indicator.switch, but it is showing up on the panel,
including the menu. The blueman-applet is right next to it and is still
broken. This is after i've been playing around all day killing services
and so on,
The bluetooth applet I use in XFCE is blueman-applet. It appears as an
indicator but also does not display any options when clicked on. Only a
small empty box appears under the indicator.
Here's the error message when I click on the indicator:
(blueman-applet:27228): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING
I assume that it uses indicator-application-gtk2.
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Weird. In 13.10 bluetooth is a Unity service/indicator-ng, but it still
uses appindicator APIs, but it doesn't use the library version of them,
so it must have it's own.
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The bluetooth indicator is also affected (see duplicate bug 1219938).
Maybe the problem lies in the xfce4-indicator itself?
** Also affects: indicator-bluetooth (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
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** Changed in: indicator-bluetooth (Ubuntu)
Status: New = Confirmed
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@daniel: I don't think it is directly related to the xfce4 indicator
applet - I'm testing gtk3/indicator-ng support from upstream, and with
it the sound menu works fine, but bluetooth menu is still broken. So it
is either unrelated bugs, or something fixed in indicator-sound and not
Actually, I'm not sure how the reporter of bug 1219938 even got the
bluetooth indicator to appear in Xubuntu given that is has no gtk2
version.
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Note that the indicator-sound package containing the file needing the
patch of message #5 was just re-released yesterday without the patch
(scheduling issue?). I had to re-apply the patch.
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