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Didier,
I think that the everyone agreeing that it would be better to switch
user groups dynamically probably didn't include many security people,
since all the security people I know would run screaming at the
suggestion of allowing external modification of the group privileges of
a running
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* 02_install_missing_samba.dpatch:
- prompt for restarting session when installing samba to take into account
sambashare group membership
Sorry Steve, I should have better said everyone thinks that it should better
not to having log out/in again to enable samba sharing, but there seems to be
no easily adressable trick to achieve it.
It was what I meant, regardless of technical involvement :)
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You got it right, both on my sugestion and in the problem with it. What
made me think about this was Colin's 29 and 30 comments. Maybe what I'm
proposing is overkill, but let me try to clarify a bit.
I think if Bug 238224 gets fixed for hardy, and a one time silent call
to gksu makes
Yes, providing the default sambashare group + creating NTLM hash on the
fly can be a good solution, but as you told, a little big overkill :)
The bubble has already been discussed in desktop team meeting and have
been discared. This is enhanced with the goal of having no actions in
notifications
Has anyone tested that the package in hardy-proposed addresses this bug?
It would be good to get this through verification this week, so we can
include it in the Ubuntu 8.04.2 roll-up.
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I confirm the UI that asks for logout works. I tested on a laptop and a
desktop, both on up to date Hardy installs.
However it seems rather intrusive to the configuring process, since it
doesn't even let the user finish configuring the share - it leaves the
share created with default settings,
To other newbies around, here's the procedure I used to confirm. Steps
1-4 are not required, but I wanted to be extra careful:
1- Purge samba, samba-common, libpam-smbpass, and re-install smbclient (which
pulls samba-common).
1'- remove the sambashare group
2- Logout, login
3- Try to create a
Of course after so many steps, and logouts, I had to make some kind of
confusion. Please disregard the part in my first comment about the
intrusiveness of the UI - the share is *not* partly created with the
0ubuntu5 package, which is exactly what the bug report is about, duh.
Also, if it wasn't
Hum, not sure to understand. You want to use pam to take into account
the new user group and silently relaunch the nautilus-share dialog with
the same user (so that NTLM password hash is created and the user in the
right group), right?
If it's the case, think about a second share that the user
Accepted into hardy-proposed, please test and give feedback here. Please
see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed for documentation how
to enable and use -proposed. Thank you in advance!
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Didier, I reverted the core dev - motu change in debian/control, since
the package is in hardy main.
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** Description changed:
On Hardy Beta
When trying to share a folder in nautilus it notifies that the samba package
is not installed.
It then installs the package.
When you then try to share the folder again it notifies you that you do not
have privilegies to share files and that you
Sorry for the delay, jaunty give me a hard development time :)
Here is an update for hardy. I changed also the maintainer field to core
dev as it seemed to be wrongly adressed to motu (rmadison tells me that
nautilus-share is in main from hardy).
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* 02_install_missing_samba.dpatch:
- prompt for restarting session when installing samba and libpam-smbpass
to create NTLM password hash (sudoers
Here is a patch proposition for intrepid after a talk with slangasek
(even if a sudoer is in the right group from installation, libpam-
smbpasswd has to be installed, and then the user has to authenticate,
before that user can be used for authentication to shares).
The only matter is that I based
umm...okay...
well, i downloaded 8.10 beta and repeated the process and got the
expected results. it was fixed in the next release.
everything behaves exactly as expected in respect to installing the
sharing services and stuff. i clicked through, and was able to share
folders right away. so, mr
Jessie, it is not at all fixed yet, the problem in this bug report still
persists in Intrepid. See comment 50.
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Yes, after some tests, as Jessie said, this is currently fixed.
In a default ubuntu installation (tried with a fresh updated beta
installation), all sudoers are part by default of sambashare group,
even if samba package is not setup. I reckon this is because of
smbclient default installation,
Jessie, for the sake of the argument, know that there are people like me
who WILL stay on 8.04 until the next LTS release. 8.04 mostly works,
or, at least, its bugs are known to me. That is the distro/version that
I am installing on people's computers when I don't want to break them
and maintain
FYI, I am working on it.
On #ubuntu-desktop, seb128, pitty and mvo agreed to use a GTK dialog for
warning the user (and provide a button for a session restart).
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why is everyone still going on about this bug? it was fixed in intrepid,
relax.
8.04 was kinda a catastrophe anyway, no ones going to use it when
intrepid comes out (unless intrepid is also a catastrophe, which is
possible. if these developers keep screwing up, im just moving to
fedora. they can
As per the Ubuntu Desktop team meeting discussion: When trying to enable
sharing when samba is installed, the user is in sambashare now, but the
process isn't yet, the Install samba? dialog should be replaced with a
You need to restart your session in order to enable sharing. [Restart
now]
Martin Pitt wrote:
As per the Ubuntu Desktop team meeting discussion: When trying to enable
sharing when samba is installed, the user is in sambashare now, but the
process isn't yet, the Install samba? dialog should be replaced with a
You need to restart your session in order to enable
Martin,
As a temporary solution, would it not be easier to use the
infrastructure provided by update-notifier for notifying the user that
they need to restart their session (as opposed to creating a whole new
dialog). This is how the Firefox package currently notifies the user
that they need to
@Martin Pitt:
In stead of a reboot, how about advise of a need to log out/log in. A complete
restart seems like overkill when a logout/login is sufficient.
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DavidBaucum: I don't think Martin wasn't suggesting a complete restart.
He was suggesting a session restart, ie logout/login.
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Hi, I thought I'd chime in. I'm a java programmer with 14 year of Win32
experience.
I'm a ubuntu virgin though. When I tried to share a folder I did it like I
would on OSX/win32: First, I tried to share a drive (fail), so I then tried a
folder, found the 'sharing option'.
Went in there, added
A notification to restart should be added before Intrepid release. This
can be done in the same style as the firefox notification. Even if this
is considered a workaround rather than a complete fix, this would drop
the importance to medium, and it should be fairly easy to implement.
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Another note - I was unable to create the share anyway, after logout OR restart
(twice).
The only way around it was to do what the error said, add that line in
smb.conf. It works now, but I'm not sure if adding the line is a security risk
or not (to be honest I don't care anymore after 3 hours
I have forgotten to add, that my Ubuntu is fully patched on today
(19-09-2008).
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On my Ubuntu 8.04 (with russian locale) after I requested sharing the
folder and accepted samba installation, I still had the error 255 no
permissions for net usershare.
The reason was simple. When editing sambashare usergroup I noticed, that
my account is added to group, BUT UNCHECKED. I needed
It should work without re-login, as at windows and mac. If that OS can
do that, also ubuntu should.
It is more a question of security. On windows and mac, all users are
authorized to create shares, unless explicitely denied by their admin in
some group policy (on Windows). We can do that too, we
@DavidBaucum: I can't believe that nice error message saying that user
needs to reboot can be considered as a fix. It's of course necessary
with current implementation, but's just a workaround in the best case!
It should work without re-login, as at windows and mac. If that OS can
do that, also
ok, that was clarifying.
anyway, i think that a message saying the user must relogin is still
unacceptable. the problem is not that the error message doesnt contain
helpful information. the problem is that ERRORS ARE BAD. we should not
get an error in the first place. it is inconvenient and
@saepia: I absolutely agree that Ubuntu should not force you to reboot.
That is ideal and hopefully attainable. However, the current situation
is beyond unacceptable. The way it currently works is sloppy. A user
selects to enable sharing and is given an error that is inaccurate and
frustrating
this bug was not present in 7.10 and is therefore a regression. i do not
think that you should have to relogin/restart the computer in order to
start setting up shares, that is way too inconvenient, and you didnt
have to do that in gutsy. instead, how about automatically restarting
samba after
Jessie - The problem isn't that the Samba daemon needs restarting. The
problem is that nautilus-share (which was introduced in to Hardy) uses a
feature of Samba called 'usershare', which allows the administrator to
control who can add shares. The administrator does this by adding users
to the
Chris Coulson wrote:
The maintainer scripts for Samba automatically add all users who are
members of group 'admin' to group 'sambashare' when Samba is installed.
However, the user won't belong to this group until they log out and back
in again (and I don't think that there is any way around
Nautilus runs as me and needs to write the share data into the
following place:
drwxrwx--T 2 root sambashare 4096 2008-07-28 21:05
/var/lib/samba/usershares
But this place is only writable to sambashare members, which I do not
belong until I relogin.
It does not matter if you have some
Mark,
I'm not sure it is that simple with the current Samba implementation,
because it isn't a case of Samba querying whether the user belongs to
the correct group or not when a share is created. The Nautilus-share
extension (running with normal user privileges) needs write access to
Phoenix - Thank you for your response.
When you describe having a daemon that is privileged enough to create
shares on behalf of the user - this is basically how GNOME System Tools
/ System Tools Backends works already for handling system configuration
(if you weren't already aware).
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@Mark: I think the problem most of us have is not that you have to
reboot, but that the user is not properly notified to reboot. So the
first time one goes to share folders they come to the conclusion that
they are ready and then run in to an error that does not give helpful
information. If the
We should do *something* about this for 8.04.2, whether it be installing
libpam-smbpass by default (probably not a great idea) or including UI
that asks for the user's password to enable non-anonymous sharing if
necessary (seems cleaner). This needs to shake out in Intrepid first,
though.
(Per
or including UI that asks for the user's password to enable non-
anonymous sharing if necessary (seems cleaner).
Presumably by using gksudo? Wouldn't it be just as easy to use newgrp in
place of gksudo, and save users the need to re-enter their password?
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I have a fresh hardy install. Actually I installed from a 7.10 CD and
immediately upgraded to 8.04
I followed the instructions to edit smb.conf and change workgroup = localname
to the local workgroup name. I then logged out and back in. The network file
browser shows the windows network icon.
I understand that modifying groups requires a logout (although I've been
hacking UNIX for 20+ years and I still don't really understand why
that's true). But it's monumentally sucky to have to log out, even if
there's some dialog that tells you you need to do it.
I don't see why nautilus-share
Bug 238224 is relevant here. I'm just checking up with Steve Langasek
about it, but it seems like a basically reasonable thing for the
installer to do for the first user, which would alleviate this for many
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Of course, that isn't *sufficient* because libpam-smbpass needs to get a
chance to see the user's password in order to do non-anonymous sharing
... although you can deal with that by running something that requires
administrative privileges so that it asks for your password. Still a bit
ugly,
Yes, exactly the same thing happened to me. Logout, login solved the
issue.
It would be nice to have this fixed.
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couldnt we just change the text in the dialog to be something more useful.
ie change:
'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: failed to add share
public. Error was Operation not permitted
to:
'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: failed to add share
public. Error
I gotta tell you that everyone around here is wishing that Ubuntu
developers would put things back exactly as they were in Gutsy. That
was the easiest thing since sliced bread, and it's stable as a rock.
We've been using it for months with no problems at all. We installed
8.10 LTS, and this
I like the changes that have been made to samba; it really is point-and-
click to share things now. The only problem I have experienced with it
is this bug, which can be solved easily by a user logging out and in
again. While it would be great to see a fix, it's hardly a reason to
revert back to
You should be able to use the following command instead of re-login.
$ newgrp sambashare
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I'm have this problem, except logging out (or even rebooting) does not
solve it. The user is already in the sambashare group, by the way, and
this is a clean Hardy install. Any ideas?
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I tried running su $USERNAME -c groups and it showed me being in the sambashare
group, but when I tried to share a folder I still got the message 'net
usershare' returned error 255: net usershare: cannot open usershare directory
/var/lib/samba/usershares. Error Permission denied
You do not have
You would have to close nautilus first, run 'su $USERNAME -c nautilus',
and then choose the folder to share. Not a very nice workaround while
the program does not perform this by itself...
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Artem, it is all excuses!
1. In any case user should know, that is necessary to relogin, but how user
can know that? It is not written anywhere about relogin.
2. It is really ridiculous, that I must relogin for share my folder. Yes,
only first time, but where is a Linux Power? I shall not speak
It can be correct for linux security system. But how I can explain to the
user, that he should restart his computer for share a folder?! Former
windows users will laugh over me.
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Kai, you only have to login/logout ONCE when you share a folder the
first time ever. After that, folder sharing does not require logging out
or restarting.
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That's not restarting to share a folder, that's relogging the first time
you enable network shares. Windows users have known worse! ;-)
Could some developer confirm that using a 'su -c $USERNAME' trick could
work? This is the best solution.
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Could some developer confirm that using a 'su -c $USERNAME' trick
could work? This is the best solution.
Why do you need a developer? Couldn't you just test it yourself, or read
the log I posted at: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/7883/
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If that is the case -- and I don't think it is necessarily the case --
then that's something that needs to be changed or worked around. It
feels like working with Windows 95 or something.
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I think a better solution to this is simply make samba part of the
ubuntu-desktop meta package, this IS a desktop. By default with no
folders shared you get no inherent security risks.
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why did we not have to login/logout on gutsy? or why was this bug not
apparant?
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@Daniel: the fact that the user needs to logout/login is a basic property of
how the permission system works on linux, and in any *nix system. i.e. the
system checks user's groups at login.
Anyhow, on other systems you need a reboot, login/logout is cheap.
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Is there any way that this can be resolved without requiring the user to
log in and log out? I, for instance, use Ubuntu because it's stable and
polished and I don't have to restart and log in and log out all the
time. This would be the ideal behaviour.
As it is right now the error it spits out
Isn't there any workaround to avoid the need of relogging in?
we could use su $USERNAME -c to run the command. This would require
the user to enter their password, but would work without the user
needing to be in admin.
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I think the best solution may be to give a notify message, just like
when you reinstall Firefox and it tells you you need to restart Firefox
for the changes to take effect, or the circular arrow you get notifying
you of a need to reboot like when you install a new kernel.
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I´m install in my desktop and my laptop ubuntu 8.04 stable, in the two
machines I have this problem.
I think that is necessary to advise the user about the logout/login to
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Importance: Undecided
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There needs to be a dialouge.
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So nautilus should be hacked so that when the install is done, it tells
you to login again, just like it told you before that you needed to
install packages. Isn't there any workaround to avoid the need of
relogging in?
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Another way to solve that is, may be, to hack samba and libpam-smbpass
packages for add notification in their postinst file (like firefox3 do,
saying to user that firefox must be restarted)
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On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 06:08:57AM -, Patrice Vetsel wrote:
Another way to solve that is, may be, to hack samba and libpam-smbpass
packages for add notification in their postinst file (like firefox3 do,
saying to user that firefox must be restarted)
I think that would be incorrect in this
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