[Bug 219243] Re: Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers

2008-04-24 Thread Scott James Remnant
Upgrades are supposed to adjust any needed rules, yes; unfortunately since you've done the reinstall, and the problem has gone away, we'll be unable to debug this further to understand what went wrong. I can only assume you had stale or hand-written udev rules in there that were causing problems.

[Bug 219243] Re: Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers

2008-04-24 Thread Scott James Remnant
Even with the USB devices unplugged, the longest timeout is still a USB device ... add /devices/pci:00/:00:1a.0/usb1/1-2/1-2.1/1-2.1:1.0/usb_endpoint/usbdev1.4_ep02 (usb_endpoint) 0.07 63.16 63.09 add

[Bug 219243] Re: Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers

2008-04-24 Thread enigma_0Z
Hrm. Well, I did have some rules that were from early 2007 they may have been from an old installation of Edgy. I know that I did have some custom rules in there, but even removing them didn't fix it. I did install some software packages from source as well, and some of those may have

[Bug 219243] Re: Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers

2008-04-22 Thread enigma_0Z
... As it goes, I just reinstalled the Hardy prerelease from scratch and guess what--the bug's gone. I suppose this means that I did have a stray rule somewhere. Shouldn't regenerating the rules be part of the upgrade procedure? -- Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers

[Bug 219243] Re: Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers

2008-04-21 Thread enigma_0Z
Thanks! The file is attached. ** Attachment added: udev log http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13594708/udev -- Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/219243 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to

[Bug 219243] Re: Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers

2008-04-21 Thread Scott James Remnant
Thanks for the bug report. 90s delays in udev are the result of a timeout, usually caused by non- responding hardware or an error in the rules we process. Could you attach the /var/log/udev file from your system, this should allow us to determine what's causing the problem and whether it's a bug

[Bug 219243] Re: Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers

2008-04-21 Thread Scott James Remnant
Thanks for the log. Could you try unplugging the USB hub and then rebooting, attaching the udev log and bootchart from that boot for comparison -- Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/219243 You received this bug notification because you are a member of

[Bug 219243] Re: Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers

2008-04-21 Thread enigma_0Z
AFAIK that bootchart is without the USB hooked up, but I'm not sure, so I'll make two. -- Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/219243 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs

[Bug 219243] Re: Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers

2008-04-21 Thread enigma_0Z
** Attachment added: hardy-20080421-3-with-usb.png http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13598870/hardy-20080421-3-with-usb.png -- Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/219243 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is

[Bug 219243] Re: Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers

2008-04-21 Thread enigma_0Z
** Attachment added: hardy-20080421-4-without-usb.png http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13598875/hardy-20080421-4-without-usb.png -- Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/219243 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which

[Bug 219243] Re: Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers

2008-04-21 Thread enigma_0Z
** Attachment added: udev-without-usb http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13598878/udev-without-usb -- Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/219243 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. --

[Bug 219243] Re: Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers

2008-04-21 Thread enigma_0Z
** Attachment added: udev-with-usb http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13598883/udev-with-usb -- Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/219243 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. --

[Bug 219243] Re: Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers

2008-04-21 Thread enigma_0Z
Something else that may help you diagnose the issue is that until a recent update, lshw hung on PCI (sysfs) -- Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/219243 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to

[Bug 219243] Re: Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers

2008-04-21 Thread enigma_0Z
One more question... would it be possible to rebuild the rules in /etc/udev/rules.d/ ? I've tried to rename the directory and re-install udev, but the rules that dpkg -S claims belong to udev are not placed in the directory... -- Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers

[Bug 219243] Re: Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers

2008-04-20 Thread enigma_0Z
After some more research, I can confirm that this is a udev bug, or at least strongly related to udev... The script responsible for Loading hardware drivers is /etc/init.d/udev... And the lines it hangs on begins at line 61. The command udevadm trigger is what causes the long wait. --snip--

[Bug 219243] Re: Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers

2008-04-20 Thread chezy
Here it doesnt go beyond loading hardware drivers at all and if i do a crtl+alt+dell it shows loading hardware drivers as failed, AMD64 2800+ 1GB RAM nVidia 7600GS VIA K8M890 Motherboard. Booting without any usb devices connected. -- Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers

[Bug 219243] Re: Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers

2008-04-20 Thread enigma_0Z
Probably a different bug. Some updates, backgrounding udevadm trigger helps, but then some drivers aren't loaded before X starts and my touchpad doesn't have the nice scroll features such. I really hope we can get some help on this before Hardy is released-- this is quite an annoying bug, it

[Bug 219243] Re: Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers

2008-04-18 Thread enigma_0Z
Tried unplugging USB hub w/ said devices... no difference. A bootchart indicates that this may be a udev problem though... (see attachment) ** Attachment added: hardy-20080418-1.png http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13552465/hardy-20080418-1.png -- Long delay when Loading Hardware Drivers