I confirm, Bryce, the bug appears to be fixed in latest Lucid.
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I examined the patches mentioned above, and compared them against the
xserver code in lucid. All the changes from the patches[1] are in the
lucid xserver.
I've tried to reproduce the issue on karmic but didn't have success
there, so I can't be sure I'm testing lucid correctly to verify it as
Evgeny, the 'Triaged' state means all necessary information has been
provided. ;-)
The one remaining question is, I see Chad tagged this bug 'lucid' but
has anyone actually tested it on lucid? I'd love to see evidence in the
form of log files taken from a lucid system.
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Bryce, what is there to triage? The bug is confirmed since long ago, all
the required information has been provided.
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My apologies, the bug's really still there. Probably, I forgot to
restart xorg.
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As for me bug dissapears adter upgrading to xserver-xorg-core
2:1.6.4-2ubuntu4.2 on amd64.
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As for me, the bug is still there with xserver-xorg-core
2:1.6.4-2ubuntu4.2 on i386, have yet to check on amd64 at home.
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And no, amd64 isn't fixed either, still suffers from this bug with
xserver-xorg-core 2:1.6.4-2ubuntu4.2.
Gerhard's patch still works, but I'm really tired of updating my PPA
every time new xserver-xorg is packaged. We have the bug confirmed, we
have the patch that fixes it, what else is needed to
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It is not a patch, it is a hack around the problem. To make it a good
patch one has to find the problem, to understand the sources and to make
the scalable solution (for example, this hack fails if you have four
configurations instead of the three you have). Obviously the one doing
this has to be
Perhaps related to #460328
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Just wondering, when you're experiencing the problem, what do you get if you
give this?
gconftool-2 -R /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/kbd
Because I had similar symptoms, but they were caused by gdm..
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The bug is not related to gnome, you may experience it in plain X
without a window manager at all (although you will want to configure
layout switching combination in xorg.conf then).
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The method described in Victor's comment works for me. (Thanks to all
involved!)
Could this be incorporated into karmic-updates? After all, this must be
a very common bug.
More importantly, can we make sure this is fixed in Lucid so that this
long-standing bug finally dies? (I don't have time to
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Thanks a lot for instructions, Gerhard! I believe you forgot to mention
build command before the last line. So it should be:
mkdir xserver-xorg-core-src-karmic
cd xserver-xorg-core-src-karmic
apt-src install xserver-xorg-core
wget http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33566768/xserver-xorg-1.6.4.diff
cd
Yes, you are right of course. Sorry ...
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There was a recent update to the xserver-core package, which made the
problem reappear (because it overrides the patched version paulus
provided). I recollected all info from the posts above on how to apply
the patch to the latest src and build the package yourself. These are
the steps you have to
I have the ?? bug on Karmic and Intrepid (2 different computers, both have
russian and USA layout, additional typographic symbols enabled).
'setxkbmap' fixes it for some time, though not for long - it will appear again
after some time, without any rebooting or something else. I don't have any
The https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-
config/+bug/283128/comments/52 patch is working all right (although it
is impossible to push it to the upstream). You may fetch the patched
xserver package from http://repo.paulus.ru/karmic/ (you need the
xserver-xorg-core package) or build
I have a system where a user has Lithuanian, Russian, and USA layouts. On a
reboot, an additional Ltu2 (2 in subscript) appears. When I remove it, it comes
back on the next reboot. I did not investigate much more than actually finding
this bug, which kind of seems related.
No functional
It looks like the same bug, and the patch will not work for you because
it doesn't solve the problem: it simply gets rid of the symptoms for
users with two three-level layouts (and you have three).
You may run setxkbmap on startup to get rid of the extra layout
automatically (i.e. put it in gnome
Well, it does not trigger, the bug simply doesn't show up if there are no
symbols on the third level.
I mean that [ letter otherletter ] == [ letter otherletter NoSymbol NoSymbol ]
and the NoSymbol's being
added to the extra group are effectively wiped out by xkb.
The good news is there is a
Hmm, I've just installed Thomas' version of xserver and it is bug-free all
right, but
the multimedia keys still generate MappingNotify. Either I am thinking the
wrong way
or the patch fixes the symptom and not the problem by itself.
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Okay, I've upgraded my laptop to Karmic and have manually applied the
patch to the server. Looks like the symptoms have gone :)
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More investigation reveals the following behaviour in Karmic:
- if Extra typographic characters option is enabled in layout settings, the
extra characters can be entered, but the ?? issue exists;
- if the said option is disabled, the extra characters can still be entered,
but the ?? issue is not
The ?? issue is still there for me in Karmic.
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And the patch that Thomas published can no longer be applied to xorg-
server 1.6.3, so the problem becomes unfixable again.
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There is some confusion here, because this bug tracks two issues.
* The ?? issue. It doesn't happen for me in Karmic. Can somebody
confirm this?
* The locking issue when unplugging an external keyboard. This problem
persists for me in Karmic. Can somebody please confirm, then we'll file
a
Thomas, I tried your patch as well and it seems to fix the problem for
me too. I have already uploaded a patched source to my PPA (though it
has yet to build).
Why don't you attach your patch to this bugreport so that it has more
chances to be applied to the package in Ubuntu main, and thus to
I can confirm the bug as it has previously been described. I'm using a laptop
without external keyboard and I'm running 9.04 with all stable updates.
- I use two layouts US and German.
- After booting everything is fine for some time.
- When I change something in the keyboard layout options (e.g.
Thomas, I tried your patch
(https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/283128/comments/37)
with my recent jaunty installation. Since I have a 64-Bit installation, I had
to compile the package myself following your directions, but everything worked
fine.
I can confirm that
hi
I have a thinkpad x300 with thinkfinger installed.
I can't understand exactly how to resolve the multi keyboard problem.
Can anyone help me understand how to resolve ?
I checked the http//linux.penging.de/#keyboard site
but i still can't understand how to install the jaunty package.
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I have a thinkpad x300 with thinkfinger installed.
I can't understand exactly how to resolve the multi keyboard problem.
Can anyone help me understand how to resolve ?
I checked the http//linux.penging.de/#keyboard site
but i still can't understand how to install the jaunty package.
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Hi,
1) download debian package (or comple yourself with patch)
2) sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.6.0-0ubuntu14_i3.deb
3) restart xserver
Hope this help.
Cheers,
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Hi Thomas,
I am very new in ubuntu so there are many terms I still don't know.
I downloaded the zipped package to my desktop, if I click.
When write sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg-core_1.6.0-0ubuntu14_i3.deb in the
terminal it says that the file it is not found
dpkg: error processing
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Result:
a) Bug still exist in xorg server 1,6 (as expected)
b) Patch can be still applied and it's still solving the issue
c) Generated new pre-compiled package (incl. patch) for jaunty
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It would be really cool if this could be added to the standard package.
Hope Bryce can pick it up.
Rats, you missed Final Freeze by like 2 days... It's too late for these
patches to make it in for Jaunty. But we should get them in Karmic once
we update to the newest xserver. Thanks for testing
I had a little time and could finally try the patches:
Good news! It works!
Additionally:
* I compiled a single patch out of the 4 patches, that directy apply with
current stable Ubuntu (intrepid) package 1.5.2
* created a pre-build debian package from latest Ubuntu source package
(Intrepid)
I have to second Michal, this is not fixed for me in Jaunty. I have two
layouts configure (1. Danish 2. Swiss German), after a while i get again
a third one (Label on panel ??, in tooltip Switzerland) with the
funny layout aßð...@łer↓→oþĸj...
I do not use thinkfinger though, so for me the cause
Bryce pointed to patch:
commit ae986d1c73d2f720bd0309d8c33328d14e8eed25
Author: Peter Hutterer peter.hutte...@redhat.com
Date: Fri Sep 19 18:27:24 2008 +0930
However as I found here:
http://www.mail-archive.com/x...@lists.freedesktop.org/msg02504.html
This patch causing the problem,
Hi Guys,
I just found that Peter Hutterer send me several patches also published on xorg
mailing list.
You find this here:
http://www.mail-archive.com/x...@lists.freedesktop.org/msg02587.html
(Unfortunatly that ended up in my mailfilter :-( )
I assume these patches will fix the problem, BUT
Hi Guys,
I just found that Peter Hutterer send me several patches also published on xorg
mailing list.
You find this here:
http://www.mail-archive.com/x...@lists.freedesktop.org/msg02587.html
(Unfortunatly that ended up in my mailfilter :-( )
I assume these patches will fix the problem, BUT
Thomas, I'm willing to try, but I'll need a bit of guidance if you don't
mind. But this is communication that doesn't belong here, if you're
willing to help out I'll contact you directly.
Anyway, I tried to apply the patches to the xorg-server source package.
I think the patches are outdated in
Filled bug #348509 against thinkfinger
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I see that the commit above is in the /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-
core/changelog.gz (2:1.6.0-0ubuntu4), but this issue happens to me
further on. My SECONDARY group is now replaced with the ?? text in the
keyboard-indicator-applet and it's context menu Groups shows only the
first group;
OK, it seems that I found when the keyboard indicator changes to the ??
text. It happens when I'm executing something with sudo in the terminal
and the thinkfinger attaches its virtual keyboard to pass the fake Enter
key after the finger is scanned.
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commit ae986d1c73d2f720bd0309d8c33328d14e8eed25
Author: Peter Hutterer peter.hutte...@redhat.com
Date: Fri Sep 19 18:27:24 2008 +0930
xkb: fix core keyboard map generation. #14373
According to Section 12.4 of the XKB Protocol Spec, if
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Hmmm, I never use an external keyboard but I do have the ?? layout. It
replaced my USA International (with dead keys), and it still works, it
just looks funny. Same problem or different problem?
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Same problem. It occures on plugging in the USB transmitter for my
external Logitech mouse/keyboard.
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I've had a problem for a long time (months... back from pre-Intrepid
alphas). Toshiba M200 tablet. Symptoms are very similar to Michael's. I
normally use Dvorak. This happens very consistently with several
different USB keyboards I've tried, different manufacturers:
boot with USB keyboard
Finally at my linux box I could check this out a little, seems that it:
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2008-November/040623.html
This looks pretty much I need to put these 2 patches in the xserver
Not sure when I find the time to do this, so if you guys have a minute (or the
I currently don't have access to my Linux box, but got interesting reply from
Peter Hutterer:
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 02:52:10PM +0900, Thomas Fritzsche wrote:
after upgrading to xserver 1.5.2 using the new evdev + hal I'm observing
that I
No, I do not have it.
I have the following lines:
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Macintosh mouse button emulation
(type: MOUSE)
...
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Logitech USB Multimedia Keyboard
(type: KEYBOARD)
(**) Option xkb_rules evdev
(**) Logitech USB Multimedia
I did a little bit more testing:
* this additional ?? layout group first to be not displayed after restart, if
I click on the keyboard indicator I just get the expected layouts. However the
moment I press first key the system seems to add this layout ?!
* For test purpose I added the extra
Thomas, just to clarify: Do you have auto login enabled on your system?
Your bug description is rather different from mine, and the discussion
in bugzilla which you mentioned indicates that your problem could have
to do with autologin.
For me, the indicator works well for some time. It definitely
I do NOT use autologin. I put the link to these bugs just because they are
similar.
What action are you doing to get it, can you trace this with test_monitor?
What is lshal / xorg.0.log saying?
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Here some observations and I'm wondering you guys have the same:
* Even I get these strange layouts with ?? I can still switch the keyboard
via keyboard (in my case ALT-SHIFT)
* In the first seconds after start I have sometimes sometimes everything seems
to be fine (no ?? and short time later I
More research:
I installed and compiled source package of libxklavier:
apt-src install libxklavier
apt-src build libxklavier
in the subfolder libxklavier-3.7/tests I now get test_config and
test_monitor some tools to see a little whats going on.
If I run test_config -g the issue get's fixed, but
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Do you guys have this:
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device Video Bus (type: KEYBOARD)
in Xorg.0.log?
Here is a discussion about this:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=238125
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Thomas, I do have this line, twice actually.
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I don't have a locking problem. But here is the keybord relevant part of
the Xorg.0.log file:
[...]
(II) Cannot locate a core pointer device.
(II) Cannot locate a core keyboard device.
(II) The server relies on HAL to provide the list of input devices.
If no devices become available,
Michael: I confirm that I get exactly the same behaviour as you
describe. Interestingly enough, it doesn't lock right after plugging it
in, but a few seconds afterwards.
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Alexander, I experience the locking to one layout only after plugging in an
external USB keyboard... not sure if that fits your situation.
So,
1) USB keyboard plugged in, using multiple layouts no problem,
2) Unplug USB keyboard, still can use multiple layouts no problem
3) Plug USB keyboard back
Aha! I'm almost constantly working with an external keyboard.
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I can confirm that if I unplug my USB keyboard (which I normally would
not do, since it's the only one - I am working at a desktop pc), the
layout indicator locks for me, too.
Interestingly enough, it already locked when I UNPLUGGED (contrary to
Michaels description)...
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No, it never locked at my computer. But I have other problems with using
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See Bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/286158
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Question to others experiencing this bug: I get two behaviours on my
system. Most of the time, it just shows the extra ?? layout. But
sometimes, it just locks on one layout which I cannot change anymore. Do
you experience that as well?
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Same problem here, using German and Icelandic layout.
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I have the same issue here after upgrade to Intrepid (8.10) using German and
Japanese keyboard layout (Thinkpad T61).
After X restart I suddenly have extra layout showing by keyboard indicator with
text ??.
I can open the keyboard indicator applet doing some dummy changes and the
additional
I can confirm the same problem with a Generic 105-key (Intl) PC
Keyboard model setting and USA and Germany Eliminate dead keys as
the two configured keyboard layouts (using both shift keys as switching-
trigger).
The interesting thing i observed is that after removing the German
keyboard layout
I have this bug, too. My to configured layouts are germany dead grave
acute and usa and the keyboard type is set to generic 105-key (intl)
PC.
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