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Hello,
I've sentelic touchpad (clevo w310cz) with ubuntu 14.04.
as mentioned https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43197, cursor jumps
and select *anywhere* on the screen.
To minimize erratic jump/selection:
- I disabled mutitouch option in touchpad-configuration GUI (two finger
Phil, this bug was reported a while ago and there hasn't been any
activity in it recently. We were wondering if this is still an issue? If
so, could you please test for this with the latest development release
of Ubuntu? ISO images are available from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com
/daily-live/current/
I have created a patch of the kernel that makes horizontal two-finger
scrolling become functional on Sentelic touchpads. After applying the
patch, you need to activate it in synaptics xorg driver, and then it
just works.
Vertical two-finger scrolling also becomes much smoother.
The kernel
According to https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43197, most
issues with the Sentelic touchpad has now been resolved since kernel
3.6-rc7.
However, installing 3.6.0, 3.7rc1 or 3.7rc2 from kernel.ubuntu.com
/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ does not show the improvements mentioned in the
Linux kernel
Hello,
does the sentelic linux driver still works with ubuntu 11.10 or 12.04?
what's the easiest way to get to-finger-scrolling and disabling touchpad
while typing?
thank you in advance.
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Two-finger-scrolling, disabling touchpad while typing and disabling
click-on-tap work in upstream kernel version 3.4-rc3+. I don't know if
Ubuntu has backported these features.
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There will be support of Sentelic touchpad in 12.04, up to the point of
3.4-rc1. You can find the details in bug 969334 and
http://ubuntu.5.n6.nabble.com/Precise-PATCH-0-6-Support-for-new-
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oh wow that's great!
how can i upgrade to this kernel?
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The current status (at least with driver from
https://github.com/saaros/sentelic):
- two finger scrolling works
- disable touchpad while writing works
What still doesn't work:
- emulation of middle button
- edge scrolling
Emulation you can workaround a little using taps instead of clicks. Just
Edge scrolling works fine for me provided I configure it with either
synclient or the KDE synaptiks application.
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Oskari, I am told by the engineer at Sentelic who I spoke to that the
quality of the absolute positioning output is not sufficient for it to
be used as pointer input. Perhaps he's mistaken, but I think I'll work
on gesture support for now. I'm compiling Chris' fork.
Do we have anything in the way
It's interesting that Sentelic's engineer said that. I am finding that
in absolute mode the touchpad is not very accurate and a bid jittery -
not so in relative mode. Perhaps this is symptomatic of what he is
describing.
I'm not aware of any roadmap - my first goal was just to get absolute
mode
The guy from ArchLinux community contacted Sentelic company, and got some
feedback and updates from them.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Asus_Ux31#Sentelic_Touchpads
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=125262p=2
You can see the version of the touchpad when it's printed to the syslog
during boot. You should see something like Finger Sensing Pad, hw:
hardware version, sw: driver version, buttons: buttons
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[4.391733] Finger Sensing Pad, hw: 14.3.1, sw: 1.0.0-K, buttons: 4
So I guess I'm not your target with testing ;)
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For disabling touchpad while typing you can try
https://github.com/gokmen/Sentelic/blob/master/README
Unfortunately it can't detect my touchpad, but maybe you'll be luckier ;)
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@Oskari: fantastic news!
Finally some progress, can't wait to make it fully supported.
Good luck ;)
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I've been working on refining and extending Oskari's improvements - my
version is available as a fork of Oskari's version on GIthub. I would be
grateful if anyone wants to do some testing (I can only test on a very
recent v14 touchpad which is in my Asus UX31).
https://github.com/thaelim/sentelic
Thanks for your fantastic work Oskari! You beat me to it - I was getting
close to getting absolute positioning working but hadn't worked out the
correct registers yet.
I applied your changes to the stock Oneiric kernel. Scrolling works as
you stated, however cursor movement is jumpy to the point
For a year or more I've used the fspc program
(http://sourceforge.net/projects/fsp-lnxdrv/) to run a startup script
that would reset my Sentelic FSP (to disable the tap-to-click and hot
spots for horizontal/vertical scrolling, because they just drove me
nuts, as there's no disable-while-typing
I was able to set the Sentelic touchpad in an ASUS ZenBook UX21E to
absolute positioning mode (which allows side-scrolling) and enable some
support for multitouch by accessing register 0x90 and patching the
kernel driver. The modified driver patches are available at
I've just bought Zenbook... please fix it ;)
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Same for the ASUS Zenbook, eager to see this fixed!
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Hey,
I have an MSIX350, and I have the same problem: no multitouch and no
side-scrolling. I am desparate to get this working, and would be very
grateful!
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Hello,
I have an MSI X370 notebook with the Sentelic touchpad. It has basic
functionality and works fine, but has no multitouch capability (it is a
multitouch pad and multitouch works well in Windows 7). I would love to
see a multitouch capable driver for this pad and/or a generic Ubuntu
Will this bug be fixed for the next Ubuntu?
As there seems to be a patch since LONG time!!! Would be ridiculous not having
it fixed for the nth release!
Also, I would suggest this as an actual bug, not wishlist. That because it
causes a mal-function to the end user.
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My current netbook came with a Sentelic touchpad included. Most of the
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ramdom jumpiness and clicks.
The last episode happened today, when my netbook ran out of battery and
suspended. I, immediately, plug it back and turned it
I think you need to do the reset thing. See comments #27 and #56.
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The driver for Sentelic’s touchpad has been in Ubuntu’s kernel at least
since Lucid, but it is incomplete. Sentelic has crippled the driver (due
to patent scares) by removing absolute positioning, even though it was
in the original source. This has the consequence that the “synaptics”
driver
hello,
I'm currently running a 2.6.27 kernel (slackware 12.2).
I had tried phil hansvschoot way, but unfortunately thats doesn't work
on my laptop.
When I tried to run fspc, I got error : fsp not detected.
I'm very thankful if someone can explain about it.
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A directly related question about how to configure Sentelic touchpads
for non-tech users is on:
https://answers.launchpad.net/null/+question/113601
Thus far, the issue appears unresolved.
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@ Hans,
Thanks for everything, although it didn't work out in the end.
I installed Win7 on it, and without any additional driver, the touchpad
works.
Yes, the way this touchpad originally works in Lucid, and then skitzes is
driving me crazy too.
And what bugs me is that I cannot reproduce the
Hi Steven, good to hear the machine is working now. the windows 7
touchpad driver gives you some extra control but it works (and is sold)
without driver.
i haven't tried to compile the psmouse.ko under lucid yet myself, but it
should work in the same way. all i can guess is that there are some
Do we need to open a bug against another package for GUI control?
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I'm not sure this bug is fully fixed in Lucid. It is recognized out of
the box, but you cannot configure the touchpad except as root using echo
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@ Hans,
I found out I had sentelic by using the xinput list command I found at
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
It says that I have a FSPPS /2 Sentelic FingerSensingPad with id=12 (slave
pointer 2)
Above that, it says: Virtual Core Pointer id=2 (master pointer 3)
also:
hi steven,
my xinput list gives almost the same results, so thats ok. (my pad has
id=11)
i've run out of ideas for you to try. there are solutions like
disabling the touchpad from bios and working with a usb mouse, but
that's not a real option i guess. what bothers me most is that your
touchpad
Hi, I've just installed Ubuntu Lucid 10.04 on an Inforce netbook, it has
a Sentelic FingerSensingPad (fspps /2). I installed it for a friend.
Strangely, at first (live CD and my first boot after installation) there
was no problem whatsoever with the touchpad.
After I updated, and rebooted, I
Hi Steven,
i'm updating my own laptop to a new kernel now, (it's lucid at the
moment, but i don't remember if i had to replace the psmouse.ko) and
check what needs to be done to get the touchpad to work.
you should try if you can restart the touchpad with the following
terminal command:
echo -n
i just updated my own laptop to the newest kernel, and the touchpad
works without changes needed.
the wacky mouse movement problem can result from suspending the machine, but
you should be able to solve that with
echo -n R /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/flags (should be run a sudo i
think)
@hansvschoot
Thanks for replying...
I tried the echo but it says no such directory found. I tried serio1
and serio0. And I checked, there is no file or directory called flags
in there...
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hi steven,
can you try the commands from the live-cd? if i remember correct, 10.04
should have the sentelic driver build in, showing up as the i8042/serio0
or serio1 folder.
also, is the mouse freaking out on a fresh boot, or only after
suspending/hibernating the machine?
what happens if you
Sorry, took me a while to reply, because it was night in my part of the
world.
I do have the i8042/serio0 and serio1 folders, but there is no folder of
file called flags in them.
The touchpad freaks out after everytime now, after fresh boot. In fact
it also freaks out in a live-usb (no cd
Sorry, I did not see your other questions...
Yes, I am running the i386 Lucid. I also tried the Netbook Live-usb, but
still the same problem.
About the ls /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio0/
This is the result:
bind_mode
description
driver (cyan)
drvctl
err_count
extra
force_release
id (blue)
hi steven,
the problem also existing on the live-usb is a bit strange, did you
allow the live-usb drive to update? (a live-usb is not read-only like a
CD, in fact it's more like a normal installation on an external drive.
changes made to it during a session stay after reboot.)
i think you should
@Thomas: i just updated my own 9.10 karmic, and descovered a small
glitch in my own HOWTO. the psmouse.ko should be copied with: sudo cp
psmouse.ko /lib/modules/2.6.31-20-generic/kernel/drivers/input/mouse/
(the -generic part was missing in the HOWTO)
when copying don't forget to unprobe the
@Thomas: my serio0 looks exactly like yours, however my FSP is serio1.
i don't know about replacing the kernal, however you could upgrade to the beta
of 10.04, it will be released the 18th if i'm correct.
are you 100% sure you replaced the psmouse.ko file? it's the part with
the modprobe
@hansvschoot: I'm sure. I checked it just again. The psmouse in the
/lib/modules... directory is the new compiled one.
I'll wait until 10.04 beta gets released...
Thanks,
Thomas
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I made a rough and ready guide for installing Karmic on an Akoya E1222.
It also has a link to the archived MSI Wind forum if thats of any
interest. I'm trying to disable the FSP while typing. I have got the
basic use of how to do it but I don't know much about capturing keyboard
Should have added the link:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1423026highlight=e1222
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Thanks!
The difference to your configuration, that my FSP was
/sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio0
You write:
So in the fsp_conf file pay attention to the line:
FSP_DEV_DIR=/sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1
I cannot find any fsp_conf file. Where is it?
I'm unsure if the
@Thomas: if you've patched the psmouse (replaced the psmouse.ko file,
after doing the modprobe -r stuff), fspc should be able to detect the
touchpad (fsp stands for finger sensing pad if i'm correct).
if fspc is nog working, you could try the method discribed around post
#34. pay attention to use
@hansvschoot: the content of my serio0 is different. It has following content:
bind_mode, driver, err_count, id, modalias, scroll, softraw, subsystem,
description, drvctl, extra, input, power, set, softrepeat, uevent
btw: my kernel is 2.6.31-20
I did a fresh install of the 9.10 netbook remix
maybe it's a silly question, please excuse, but I'm a newbie: can I just
replace the kernel with the version which comes with 10.04, which
supports the device?
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@hansvschoot: I have trouble building fspc.
When I run 'cmake .' I get following error:
-- The CXX compiler identification is unknown
CMake error: your CXX compiler: CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER-NOTFOUND was not found.
Please set CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER to a valid compiler path or name.
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@Thomas Mueller: did you install gcc through the synaptic package
manager/apt-get? can you also check if you have the build-essential
and cmake package installed?
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Thanks! The package 'build-essential' was missing. cmake did work now.
Now I ran into the next error when making fspc:
msaccel.c error: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory
... and more
What X11 package(s) has/have to be installed?
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ok, got the right X11 packages and could make fspc.
When I start it, it says 'FSP not detected'.
Is there something more I have to do to make it work?
I've got a brand new Akoya E1222 Netbook with a Sentelic Multitouch touchpad.
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i am using lucid alpha 4 (unr) on my netbook, which has this touchpad.
The touchpad works (the basics), but there is no multitouch, any idea on
how to control that in lucid (i have no such options in system-mouse)?
Since hal has been removed, all the howtos out there don't work no more
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@stiV: i thought the sentelic touchpad can't do multitouch? do you have
multitouch (scrolling with 2 fingers?) in another OS, like windows? i've
never had multitouch with my sentelic, not in windows XP, vista or
windows 7. but if you've had multitouch before and are 100% positive you
have a
strangely the script i wrote for loading the settings with fspc was
working yesterday, but doesn't anymore. after some toying around i gave
up, the problem is somewhere with the fspc -t -l line, it won't execute
from the script. (if you put it at the bottom, outside the case
statement, it
The results sound fantastic, but I'm a recent Ubuntu-convert from OS X,
so the files and commands are kind of intimidating. Any advice for an
Ubuntu noob like me to prevent disaster?
Any chance these tools and configurations will end up in Lucid in April?
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joelzehring, have you downloaded and extracted the attachment from post
30 and read the howto.txt? it's not too dificult to do, if you know how
to openuse a terminal (Applications menu - Accessories - Terminal)
and openuse the synaptic packages manager (System Administration
Synaptic Package
hansvschoot: I haven't downloaded the attachment yet. I'm running 9.10
Karmic 64 bit. Hopefully I can carve out some time this week to try it out.
Keep your fingers crossed for me. : )
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 8:23 AM, hansvschoot hansvsch...@gmail.com
wrote:
joelzehring, have you downloaded and
the FSPC app gives me the missing resource file error when i try to open
it with a starter, or from another folder. using nautilus to browse into
the fspc-static-20081201 folder and then doubleclicking the fspc app
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I decided to figure it all out this morning, and the results are in the
attachment. it's a howto with all the files needed to compile the psmouse.ko
(thank you phil) and the fspc program. it also has the static package from the
fsp-lnxdrv page onboard, and i included my own build of fspc (64bit
also managed to fix the hibernate problem, the INSTALL file instructions
gave some minor problems.
to fix the hibernate/suspend mouse issue, i created a script in
/etc/pm/sleep.d/ (press Alt+F2, type in: gksudo nautilus and browse to that
folder)
use right mouse button to create a new empty
hansvschoot,
Are you saying that you got fspc to work with the kernel driver that comes
with 2.6.32 / Lucid?
BTW, it's too bad we don't have the mswind.net forums posts any more.
Someone there had figured out how to control things like tap to click without
using fspc. Basically, I think
no i'm running the 2.6.31-19 kernel in karmic, haven't updated jet. i'll try
some things later this week with a Lucid live-USB.
the loss of the msiwind forums is a shame indeed, a lot of info about the
touchpad was online there :-(
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ok i figured out how to controll the click on pad setting without usage
of the fspc program :-) maybe this also works in Lucid, but i can't test
that right now...
echo -n kbxyac /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/flags
turns off click on pad, turning it on is done by passing the following:
echo
Yay works. Thanks!
the settings didn't reload on resume from suspend using FSPC, with
script above, so I modified the script to use the echo's instead, which
DOES work. fspc not auto-working, either re-running manually via
command line or . . .
echo -n # # #
followed instructions in INSTALL file. except for kernel patching,
since the psmouse.ko was already patched.
Did not work, non-trackpad mouse still loses ability to click and
trackpad crazy after suspend. FSPC does not work either with error
Missing Resource File.
Using mouse and not
yeah it would be good to be able to disable tap-to-click or use
syndaemon (Maybe? -- I haven't tried, FN + F3 works for me for now)
I also have an MSI A6000 and I used phil's source module tar, and FSP
works, except that after a suspend, if I touch the pointer at all it
goes crazy with clicks and
To have the touchpad work after suspend, you need to reset it. Instructions
are given in the INSTALL file in the sentelic package. Basically, you need to
add a script to the resume scripts that does:
echo R /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio2/flags
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I have an MSI A6000. Running Lucid 10.04 64 bit Alpha 2 off the live CD,
scrolling works reasonably well.
There is no preference menu for modifying trackpad settings, however.
This means that there's no way out of the box to disable tap-to-click or
modify pointer speed settings.
Crossing my
the driver is integrated in ubuntu lucid, scroll works out of the box in
the 10.4 alpha 1. this is kernel 2.6.32-7
however the fspc settings manager program won't run and in the ubuntu
mouse settings screen there is nothing about a touchpad or the
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I am running the Ubuntu Karmic 64bit on my MSI x340 (SU3500 CPU).
The touch-pad is a Sentelic although I have no idea how to verify it without
opening the case.
Most of the instructions on this page have been about installation on Jaunty
32bit (MSI Wind with Atom CPU).
I would like to use
ok so far i managed to use make to create my own psmouse.ko, and moving
it to the right folder (the header files of my kernel refused to
download at first, but apt-get update fixed that). the fspc runs now,
and i'm able to configure my sentelic touchpad.
the only problem i have left is that the
I'm running a fresh ubuntu Karmic 9.10 (64bit) installation on my
msi-X340 and would love to get this driver working.
My problem is that although i've been using ubuntu for quite some time
now i'm not familiar with manual kernel rebuilding and hardcore
patching. I tried phil's solution and copied
MSI Wind U100 touchpad does not work correctly under ubuntu 9.10
I don't know which touchpad I have, sentelic or synaptics.
I tried both driver, both failed.
1) Could not get sentelic driver work:
When I double click fspc icon, I get fsp not detected
2) Could not get synaptics driver work either
Here is the kernel commit upstream:
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=fc69f4a6af49ee69475dc4217924d9edf77760e0
@phil I'm unsure. Though don't think it is. You will need 2.6.32 as
well as it activated in the kernel config for the kernel.
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This driver is based on an older kernel. It's actually the
drivers/input/mouse dir with sentelic sentelic.h add. I'll take some time
and make patches for upstream. Things have changed now with 2.6.31, or at
least the way make files are done .. probably some other ps2mouse fixes.
@phil
DKMS whould work in this case. Also as mentioned before the driver is
upstream now.
** Also affects: oem-priority
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
** Changed in: oem-priority
Status: New = Invalid
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I created the tar file by patching the Ubuntu 8.04 kernel source with
the patches given at http://sourceforge.net/projects/fsp-lnxdrv/. Since
I am not affiliated with Sentelic, I do not know if it was submitted
upstream. The driver does appear to be GPLed.
As for a DKMS, I have not done one
Apparently I was composing my comments while you wrote yours.
In any case, do you know if some addition configuration program (like
fspc) is needed with the driver in 2.6.32? If so, that would need to be
packaged for Ubuntu as well. Is that covered in this bug?
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The directions as phil described work perfectly.
Shouldn't this module be named something other than psmouse.ko?
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Not much seems to have happened with this bug and forums.msiwind.net
seems to be down.
So, to make it easier for people to get configuration of the Sentelic
touchpad working, I've put together a tar.gz with the already patched
mouse driver source and a Makefile to compile it as a module and
@phil
Packaging the driver with DKMS would not require users to (manually) recompile
the module when the kernel is updated.
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Finally found guys who have the same laptop and experience problems with touch
pad :)
Will give the driver a try later.
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Have not been able to compile it yet. Would love to have this in ubuntu by
default! Please support this piece of hardware.
Thanks all!
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Add driver for Sentelic Touch pad
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would love to see this included, I have a msi x340 and I'm stuck with a
vanilla touchpad.
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This is not a bug in the linux-meta package, moving to the linux
package.
** Package changed: linux-meta (Ubuntu) = linux (Ubuntu)
** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided = Wishlist
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Add driver for Sentelic Touch pad
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/311869
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I've already got it working as a module and can try turning it into a
dkms module. However, I have not made a dkms package before. Any
pointers to instructions would be helpful.
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Add driver for Sentelic Touch pad
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Hello Phil,
I found this article, which seems pretty detailed, but unfortunately, I
am not comfortable enough to give it a try myself. I would, along with
a LOT of other ubuntu users (I would especially think that the netbook
remix folks would be interested), very grateful if you could get a
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