I learned that the system was mapping Times and Helvetica to Nimbus
equivalents, and that was messing up some websites. On-screen display of
Nimbus fonts in Linux is not ideal, even if I disable hinting. They have
a way to look awful. I changed the mappings to use Liberation fonts, and
the result
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@Forest note on user level font.conf works around the Nimbus rendering
issues.
just run fc-cache -f -v to update the fontconfig cache afterwards and
refresh your browser page.
Oddly this problem only appears in Firefox 34. Both Chrome and Opera
correctly detect that Helvetica is not installed
@Forest: thx for the workaround, works perfectly!
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Title:
Fonts are mapped to ugly fonts (which also causes problems with OOo)
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This is at least partially fixed by adding ttf-liberation to the ubuntu-
netbook, kubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-netbook seeds, so that the Microsoft
fonts will always have sane font substitution.
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Here is another screenshot that shows packages.ubuntu.com which surprisingly
prefers Microsoft fonts (Verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif).
Verdana and arial aren't found on the system so helvetica is used which is
mapped to Nimbus.
** Attachment added: nimbus-packages.ubuntu.com.png
Of course if Helvetica isn’t installed, it has to be mapped to Nimbus
Sans, because Nimus Sans is a clone of Helvetica etc.
Font rendering doesn’t seem to be well configured on your machine
(respecitvely in the application from which you’ve taken the
screenshot). Maybe the hinting is too strong.
again the screenshot, now hopefully with correct MIME type
** Attachment added: Nimbus Sans screenshot
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/41284728/Nimbus_Sans.png
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Proposed debdiff to fix this bug:
fontconfig (2.8.0-2ubuntu2) lucid; urgency=low
* add debian/patches/08_no_nimbus_mapping.patch: remove mapping to
Nimbus fonts as they are rendered very poorly (LP: #41411)
-- Felix Geyer debfx-...@fobos.de Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:29:39 +0100
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@Hannes:
The screenshots are from Firefox 3.6 on Kubuntu Lucid (both with default
configuration).
Nimbus renders very poorly on a small font size.
Please take another screenshot with font size 11px.
For example: http://debfx.fobos.de/nimbus.htm
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Firefox in Lucid has broken font rendering at the moment, so these
screenshots are not suitable examples.
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I haven't noticed any font rendering issues in Firefox but in Konqueror
Nimbus Sans L looks exactly the same.
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Here are screenshot of your Nimbus Sans page in Konqueror 4.4.1, one without
and one with light hinting.
** Attachment added: Nimbus_Sans_Konqueror.png
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/41294297/Nimbus_Sans_Konqueror.png
** Attachment added: Nimbus_Sans_Konqueror_hinted.png
This is how Nimbus Sans L looks like with font size = 11px in Firefox on
Kubuntu.
It is practically impossible to read websites that use Helvetica and a small
font size.
Is it really worth keeping those rules that map fonts to Nimbus?
** Attachment added: nimbus.png
The attached patch removes the Nimbus mapping rules.
** Patch added: no_nimbus_mapping.patch
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/40882648/no_nimbus_mapping.patch
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** Changed in: fontconfig (Ubuntu)
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** Tags added: patch
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Get rid of the Nimbus aliases. Please! These fonts are ugly, very ugly.
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May I ask why is this bug still unassigned? Isn't it necessary to move
it to karmik where the situation is still the same? These Nimbus fonts
are really anti-aesthetic (to my taste, no matter anti-aliased or not)
and there is no clean way to uninstall them which I'd really prefer.
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Fonts are
Tobias Wolf wrote:
Shouldn't you break the link between Arial and Helvetica instead?
Those aren't metric compatible.
How far off is Arial from Helvetica? This wikipedia page says they have
identical widths.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helvetica#Similar_typefaces
And If someone requests
Oops, the Attach doesn't work too well... I'm pasting it here instead and
hoping for the best.
Edit the file with sudo gedit /etc/fonts/local.conf and wait about 30 seconds
before trying with OOo. As always, Your Mileage May Vary but I hope this
benefits/helps others.
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I've installed Intrepid about a month ago, and began populating my comp
with packages outside of the Canonical repo.
My personal preference goes to FreeSans and FreeSerif instead of the
Nimbus fonts. So, after some searching here and there, I've found that
if I add/edit a file in
Shouldn't you break the link between Arial and Helvetica instead? Those
aren't metric compatible. And If someone requests a match for
Helvetica it is likely that they expect a PostScript Type1 font.
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The attached patch seems like a reasonable solution to me. Nimbus fonts
should only be chosen if metric-compatibility with the Postscript fonts
is required.
** Attachment added: Add anymetrics check to Nimus font aliases
I've started a thread on the forums
(http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=804242) asking for a work-
around for this problem. In particular, I'd like to set up the fonts on
my system so that Nimbus is not displayed on screen (or, at the very
least, in Firefox) unless it is explicitly asked
While the fonts with correct metrics might be the best option for
OpenOffice printing, they look much worse in small sizes on screen.
See the attached image for comparison, both with and without subpixel
smoothing. I believe DejaVu should be default, with possible exception
of OpenOffice and
Has something changed here between Gutsy and Hardy? In Gutsy, I seemed
to have all DejaVu fonts in Firefox. In Hardy, I'm getting the Nimbus
fonts for the fonts mentioned (Times, Helvetica, Courier), which look
pretty bad.
Strangely, even if I copy my Gutsy /etc/fonts back over, it still wants
Nevermind...I've discovered that through the wonderous powers of scp it
is possible to simply copy over all fonts you would like to have
available to your ~/.fonts directory and run fc-cache -fv ~/.fonts
to have your fontconfig update your cache configurations. Only fonts
that you have purchased
I must admit that it was a bit of a shocker today upgrading to hardy and
attempting to visit my favorite web sites (or not so favorite
applications I have to work on) to discover that many of them were
defaulting to this hideous unknown font if one was not explicitly set
that the default hardy
unmilestoning; based on last comment from Chris, this doesn't appear to
be the bug that's causing problems for OpenOffice.
** Changed in: fontconfig (Ubuntu Hardy)
Importance: High = Medium
Target: ubuntu-8.04-beta = None
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Ok, well if Times and Times New Roman are different sizes then there
definitely is a bug somewhere else that maybe just looked like it was
solved due to 'mismapping' of Times - Nimbus. Sorry for the confusion,
and yes there are other fontconfig related problems with OOo, maybe some
of those will
This bug report was originally about a rendering issue with the Nimbus
fonts (an issue which I think has been resolved); it would have been
less confusing to open a new report for the mapping question.
According to /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf, the preferred
mapping for Times is
I have noticed the same problem with fonts rendering on my Asus F5N
laptop regardless Best shapes (default) or subpixel dithering
settings. It is especially noticeable in Terminal and OpenOffice, and
gives real strain on my eyes. Reboot into 7.10, and the fonts are all
smooth and beautiful. I
And now how it looks in Hardy (with all updates installed). Notice the
shadows that were not present in Gutsy. Also, there is no real subpixel
dithering now (both screenshots are with Subpixel smoothing option
turned on). Fonts are pure black, just blurred. I put correct DPI for my
LCD panel for
Lex Ross, the gnome-terminal issue is bug #190848.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-terminal/+bug/190848
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Also noticed that same 10pt fonts are way too big in Hardy. Had to change them
to 9pt to make fonts look comparable to 7.10
Now attaching screenshots, as the problem is definitely with rendering. First,
look at enlaged screenshot form 7.10
** Attachment added: Gutsy Terminal window screenshot -
Thanks, Keenan. Thought using gnome-terminal as an example was a bad
idea. Actually, Open Office has exact same problem with all its fonts,
both menu and within documents. Firefox is also hit producing bad fonts
on pages that use Arial, Tahoma and Courier New font-family style
sheets. Wrong size
I'm sorry for the seemingly conflicting opinion on whether Nimbus should
be the remapped font for Times on OOo, it appears that since Matthias
said that a couple years ago that using that substitution is actually a
bad idea due to page layout reasons which have shown up after the
change. There is
** Changed in: fontconfig (Ubuntu Hardy)
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I saw another Bug 109256 which mentioned that the oo-welcome.odt grew in
size between 6.10 and 7.04 and after looking at it uses Nimbus Roman No9
L as the main font. After changing it to Times New Roman (using non-free
fonts) it went back to the size it should be (2 pages instead of 3). So
did
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