[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-10-31 Thread Ben Bridgwater
I had been running 9.04 with no problems, then today tried installing the 9.10 release (two hard drives, Ubuntu on the 2nd) and got this "GRUB loading" very slow boot. On top of that Firefox hangs, as does Seamonkey. I've just reverted to 9.04. -- Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show men

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-10-31 Thread manksman
This has been a bad experience for me too, after upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10 I lost sound- the hardware just vanished, so I decided to do a fresh install from CD. This has left me with a 50 second wait whilst the hard disks are thrashed and then with a grub menu that has left out Fedora. I have 3 I

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-10-31 Thread Andrew
@jorge How do you change grub to a different drive? I went into BIOS, and changed my SSD to boot before HDD (boot priority), and my computer would not boot into anything. So that makes me think that my grub or MBR is on the hard drive even though I installed ubuntu to my SSD. If grub were moved to

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-10-31 Thread Jorge
I also have this problem, but after change grub to the second hard disk where I have ubuntu and change the boot disk priority to boot from fron the second hard disk, the problem has gone. -- Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420933 You received thi

Re: [Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-10-31 Thread Felix Zielcke
Am Samstag, den 31.10.2009, 09:23 + schrieb zeimusu: > Has this been reported upstream? Does anyone have an upstream bug > reference? There's no bug report on Savannah for this. Only discussion and a WIP patch on the mailing list: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/grub-devel/2009-09/msg00313.

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-10-31 Thread zeimusu
Has this been reported upstream? Does anyone have an upstream bug reference? -- Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mai

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-10-30 Thread Andrew
I also have this problem. It says: Grub Loading. then hard drive thrashing for about 7 seconds, then GRUB appears, I select what to boot (or wait 10 seconds) and hard drive thrashes for 1-2 more seconds. I have ubuntu 9.10 on OCZ vertex 60gb SSD with ext4 / partition and swap partition. On my ha

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-10-30 Thread Alex
OK, the problem is gone for me but unfortunately I can't exactly tell why. Thats what I did. (see my harddisk/partition configuration in my prevoius post) I reinstalled grup on /dev/sdb with `sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc` like Felix suggested. -> same problem. I checked /dev/sda in Palimpsest

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-10-30 Thread xenesis
Grub is already installed on /dev/sdb for me The problem here is perhaps, that /dev/sdb7 contains my Ubuntu installation and that it is not in the first partition. But I am just guessing. -- Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420933 You received t

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-10-30 Thread mikeXYZ
"Windows update shouldn't at all affect this." Actually, I've only been told this and read it from rabbit Windows users, just hearsay; namely that after certain updates that also tamper with their boot/bootmanager, they find problems with their dual booting and have to re-install GRUB to fix it.

Re: [Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-10-30 Thread Felix Zielcke
Am Freitag, den 30.10.2009, 10:35 + schrieb mikeXYZ: > A user shouldn't have to change the boot order to get the new-and- > improved GRUB to work reasonably well. > > Many users have Windows on a first-in-BIOS HDD "sda" and boot from that > HDD by installing GRUB to its MBR, in preference to m

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-10-30 Thread mikeXYZ
A user shouldn't have to change the boot order to get the new-and- improved GRUB to work reasonably well. Many users have Windows on a first-in-BIOS HDD "sda" and boot from that HDD by installing GRUB to its MBR, in preference to maintaining their Windows on a non-first HDD (requiring devicemap an

Re: [Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-10-30 Thread Felix Zielcke
Am Freitag, den 30.10.2009, 08:45 + schrieb xenesis: > Confirming this bug for me too. > > If I set debug=disk in grub.cfg I can see GRUB agressivly reading from > the harddisk. It especially searches hd0, where Windows Vista lives. > If hd0 is your Vista, then you have problabe installed GR

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-10-30 Thread xenesis
Confirming this bug for me too. If I set debug=disk in grub.cfg I can see GRUB agressivly reading from the harddisk. It especially searches hd0, where Windows Vista lives. I removed every search command in grub.cfg, still it is searching the HD, I think, thats because it is looking for the GRUB m

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-10-30 Thread Alex
I can confirm this problem for the official Karmic release that shipps with version 1.97~beta4-1ubuntu3. Before the grub menu appears the harddisks are frequently accessed for about 30secs. After I selected a system to boot, it's the same. Harddisc access for 30secs. My Harddisk constellation: /

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-10-27 Thread rpgmaker
A similar situation here but nowhere near minutes, a couple of seconds like 6 and after that the boot process IS NOT faster than the previous iteration of ubuntu and it's kind of a mess IMHO (the first apple-like boot screen and then the windows-like one... is redundant and ugly). -- Current

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-10-27 Thread chrislecole
For me the problem was resolved by changing the boot drive priority in the bios (from pata drive to sata drive) -- Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscr

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-10-27 Thread aapgorilla
I have the same problem, I have 2 drives one with 3 partitions (which also has mandriva which had previously installed it's own lagacy-grub) and one with 2 -- Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420933 You received this bug notification because you a

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-10-26 Thread chrislecole
in addition: One other origin of this bug (long time with grub loading) may be that on Linux is installed on my rmovable SATA drive (where is the MBR) i had install 2 linux partitions one with the latest Debian testing (ext4) and the other with the beta issue of Karmic Koala (also ext4)...each of

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-10-24 Thread TToft
My guess is that a lot of Ubuntu users will run screaming away if this is not fixed before release. How come this is marked undecided importance? Since I'm just testing the RC I'll survive but for every day use this is more or less a show stopper. I hope GRUB-legacy is used in Karmic final if this

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-10-24 Thread TToft
Same problem here with 1.97 beta4. -- Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com htt

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-10-17 Thread wraithmonk
Grub 1.97 beta3, long delay on booting: Description:- Dual booting two Maxtor 80GB SATA drives. GRUB 2 is installed to the MBR of sda, and sda is the second BIOS boot drive after CDRW drive. (Making it the first BIOS boot drive makes no difference). Kubuntu 9.04 64-bit is installed on dev/sda - s

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-10-16 Thread mikeXYZ
Me, too. With both 1.97 beta3 and beta4. Dual boot/two drives. 70-second delay. The "problem installation": Dual booting two hard drives (on an Intel D915GAVL mobo). GRUB 2 is installed to the MBR of sda, and sda is the first BIOS boot drive. The Kubuntu 9.10 OS (where /boot/grub is) is on sdb2

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-10-13 Thread emarkay
Yea, "Disk Thrashing"... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1290221 -- Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailin

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-10-10 Thread Dean Loros
I went ahead & totally changed my system last nite...Installed the beta release to the first partition on the first drive & so now grub2 is on the same as the MBR---result: Grub2 now takes 5sec to menu & boots at once to the selected kernel--I would say that this will be a big headache when 9.10 is

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-10-09 Thread Dean Loros
Hi Cloin, have you had any time to think about this? I plan to resort my system this weekend & will be changing the boot order--I will see what impact this has on the bug. -- Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420933 You received this bug notificat

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-10-09 Thread Dean Loros
Sorry Colin---early morning. -- Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-10-09 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: grub2 (Debian) Status: Unknown => New -- Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-10-09 Thread SevenMachines
** Also affects: grub2 (Debian) via http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=541145 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-10-07 Thread ubuntosaure
Hi, On my dell mini9 I have only one partition as ext2 but brub is long. It crashes more and open a root access! -- Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscr

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-09-28 Thread Dean Loros
Hi Colin-- I do not know what is happeningThe patched grub from your PPA "seems" to still look of UUID's & it would appear that Vladimir wants that removed. I have updated to the current Grub2, grub-common & grub-pc & am back to the 3min 50 sec time to menu. Any thoughts would be very interesti

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-09-23 Thread zeimusu
** Changed in: grub2 (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete => Confirmed -- Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing lis

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-09-21 Thread Dean Loros
Further update: Option #3 only makes a 20sec change to my system, so we are talking on Grub2 dev list about a fix for this. More information as is available. -- Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420933 You received this bug notification because yo

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-09-21 Thread Dean Loros
Hi Colin-- I would guess that you have also read Vladimir's respond to my question on grub2 list--for others on this bug, his answer is as follows: We have theoretically discussed this problem with Robert but weren't sure if instances of it exist. The problem is that (UUID=..) syntax rescans all

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-09-20 Thread Shinji
I have "grub 1.97~beta3-1ubuntu5" installed and the same problem. It takes several minutes before the menu show up while there ist constant hard drive activity. Grub is installed inside the MBR auf /dev/sda and my Kubuntu systems resides on /dev/sdc1. /dev/sdc1 (EXT4) <== Kubuntu root partit

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-09-17 Thread Koen Verweij
My grub2 had a short (compared to Dean's) delay varying from 6-10 seconds too. Not wanting to try jocko's workaround I changed the boot priority of my hard drives so it would boot the drive where grub2 is installed on first. Now there is no delay (or maybe 0.5 seconds or sth). Now I'm not even

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-09-16 Thread Dean Loros
Just updated grub again & timed the wait to menu--took 3 min 50 sec to get there--I'm back when I started earlier this last month--I still have grub install on sda & my /boot on sdc1--so grub is still having a hard time finding things. -- Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu https:/

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-09-04 Thread Dean Loros
OK--I did not do the workaround & did do the update to grub.I can confirm that the time to grub menu went down by about 50%--in other words, from 4~5 minutes to about 2~3 minutes, so the update "improved" the respond time at least a bitstill not very good, but better than it was. -- Curre

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-09-04 Thread Dean Loros
I can also state that my Grub is on SDA & the /boot is on SDC--so it looks like that is where the problem is. -- Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribe

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-09-04 Thread John Yates
I can confirm that jocko's workaround fixes the problem for me. Something with grub on one drive and boot folder on another. -- Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, w

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-09-04 Thread jocko
Hmm... Just noticed that there must have been a grub-pc update today (to 1.97~beta1-1ubuntu4). I ran sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade both before and during my experimenting and got a few updates, but I didn't notice when the grub update came, so maybe my "fix" was just that I installed

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-09-04 Thread jocko
And now I found a workaround that fixed it for me. To start with I had set up my computer like this: SATA connector 1 --> 250Gb hard drive (sda) with grub 2 in the mbr, Gutsy installed on the first partition (sda1). SATA connector 2 --> 1Tb hard drive (sdb), Karmic on the first partition (sdb1).

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-09-04 Thread jocko
I found a similar bug report in debian's bug tracker. Apparently the person who reported the bug managed to fix it by reverting to an older version and then upgrading grub-pc again... http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=541145 ** Bug watch added: Debian Bug tracker #541145 http:/

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-09-03 Thread dino99
hi Colin, how can i help you about this problem ? I can't find an explanation about that need of "unplug" to be able to boot & restart. Tell me what script to run , thanks. -- Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420933 You received this bug notifi

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-09-02 Thread Dean Loros
I wish that it was a one-time happening for me--I am really not wanting to reboot due to this issue..the last time I ran debug I needed to remove one video card (separate problem doing with SLI & LiveCD's) & fiddle for over an hour to edit a line back out to get back to "normal" --If LiveCD's would

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-09-02 Thread Colin Watson
I noticed that after an initial installation of Karmic in kvm, the first (warm) reboot spends ages scanning the CD, but subsequent reboots are fine. This is a bit perplexing. It might be worth putting 'set debug=disk' at the top of /boot/grub/grub.cfg to see what disk it's looking at. The 'set deb

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-09-02 Thread dino99
Same issue too with 1,97: first, appear on screen "minimal bash-like line ..." comments i suppose that grub "search" uuids but make hdd noisy second, 1,97 release is on karmic but Jaunty still have 1,96 : may be not a good thing as each of my distro own his grub The good thing: except tha

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-09-01 Thread Dean Loros
Just installed the new 1,97 beta1 & am still having the same problem--It is possible that it took a "slightly" shorter time to menu as I did not time it, but it still takes several minutes for the menu to appear with a large amount of drive thrash in the process. -- Current grub-pc takes several

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-08-31 Thread Dean Loros
Useful--Yes I took 5 screenshots. First--My tower has 4 drives inside --total of 1.5TB & I have 2 testing installs + a stable 9.04 & a 64bit 9.04. Grub first goes thru all the UUID info & then checks all 4 drives for filesystem type several times--first time through is a very quick look & then it

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-08-31 Thread Colin Watson
I'm not sure if this will help, but could you please put "set debug=all" (without the quotes, of course) at the top of /boot/grub/grub.cfg, reboot, and say whether there's anything interesting on the screen? If there is, perhaps a photo of the screen would be useful. ** Changed in: grub2 (Ubuntu)

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-08-29 Thread dino99
** Attachment added: "lspci-vvnn" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/30961656/lspci-vvnn -- Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubun

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-08-29 Thread dino99
** Attachment added: "Dependencies.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/30961568/Dependencies.txt ** Tags added: apport-collected -- Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu B

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-08-29 Thread dino99
Same comments as Jocko -- Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.u

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-08-28 Thread jocko
Oh... And my lsb_release and apt-cache info is identical to Dean's in the report... -- Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/420933 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-b

[Bug 420933] Re: Current grub-pc takes several minutes to show menu

2009-08-28 Thread jocko
The same problem here too, but no where near minutes. The "[minimal BASH-like..." message, which before the last grub-pc update would only flash by in half a second, now stays up for eleven seconds with constant noises from the hard drive. After the boot menu comes up everything appears to work

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