Unfortunately, it appears that this touchpad uses a new protocol between
the device and the driver. This means that we have to figure out the
protocol before we can unlock the full functionality of the touchpad.
One way to do this is to watch what the Windows driver does when it
talks to the
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Could it be something related to the comand setPoll ???Maybe this has
another way to set Poll.
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Just a comment for clarification - my issue with the ALPS touchpad isn't
inability to scroll, it's an inability to use the syndaemon touch
disabler (because the synaptics driver isn't loaded), which makes it
difficult to type long papers. This was established in the xserver-xorg-
input-synaptics
@alabamas:
If you are interested, you can view the code at
http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.33/drivers/input/mouse/alps.c. Without
any documentation for this device, we don't really know what to do to
make it work.
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@Topher:
Yes, without the ability to turn on absolute events for this device, the
synaptics userspace functionality won't work. It could be that the
synaptics stuff uses the pressure and/or touch area size data that are
only available if the device and driver are working right.
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Take a look at what others have done in this thread:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1316361
I haven't tried it, but it looks like others have had some success. I am going
to wait for a proper fix.
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Status: In Progress = Fix Committed
** Summary changed:
- Alps touchpad is recognized but neither gsynaptics nor mouse preferences work
+ Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work
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Thanks to everyone, particularly Chase, for your work on this!
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Chase Douglas
chase.doug...@canonical.comwrote:
** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
Status: In Progress = Fix Committed
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- Alps touchpad is recognized but neither gsynaptics
There seems to have been an earlier problem where psmouse loading prior
to synaptics would prevent synaptics from loading:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1035407
A temporary workaround was to blacklist psmouse and load the module
after boot from rc.local
I checked the loaded modules
@J. McDonald:
Good find! I would appreciate it if someone could test if blacklisting
psmouse solves the issue. Be aware though, that if you blacklist psmouse
and the alps driver still isn't working, then you may have difficulties
in the desktop session :). If you find yourself in this situation,
Heh, I tried blacklisting psmouse in /etc/modprobe.d/touchpad, but it
just disabled my touchpad altogether. :-) I checked Mouse preferences
just in case Synaptics might have loaded improperly, but there was still
no Touchpad tab. So I un-blacklisted again.
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Fixed it. There's a ubuntu specific patch which adds the following line
to the alps kernel driver alps.c:
{ { 0x73, 0x02, 0x64 }, 0xf8, 0xf8, 0 }, /* HP
Pavilion dm3 */
Commenting out this new device fixes the ALPs on the HP mini 311c ;-)
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Awesome. Is there a standard way to test this fix on my machine? I'm not
a kernel hacker either...
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You can try my module if you wish The only other way would be for
you to compile your own kernel
Download the psmouse.ko file attached, and then in a console (from the
directory containing my module) run:
$ sudo rmmode psmouse
$ sudo insmod psmouse.ko
I should warn you about the dangers
@tuxinvader
You are actually taking a step backwards by commenting out that line in alps.c.
Chase put that line in there so the AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint would be
recognized in the kernel. I realize that you probably have vertical scrolling
back however none of the other functions in Synaptics
I was not aware of that, but, granted my touchpad option has
disappeared... but I'd rather have a working touchpad that I can't
configure, than a broken one which I can ;-)
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This is all way beyond my skills, but let me know if you need me to do
anything (you'll have to walk me through it). It sounds like you are making
headway, so I'll be watching for a solution I can easily install! Thank you
all for your work!
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Chase Douglas
I would like to do some initial debugging to figure out what is going
on. I would appreciate it if someone could perform the following steps:
$ sudo sh -c echo ':mod:psmouse' /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/set_ftrace_filter
$ sudo sh -c echo 1 /sys/kernel/debug/tracing/tracing_enabled
$ sudo sh -c
trace attached
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I'm going out in a bit, but I have run a few traces
official.bz2 == Current Lucid kernel (finger run across pad)
my-mod.bz2 == My reverted driver (finger run across pad)
official-scroll.bz2 == Current Lucid kernel (finger run up/down scroll section)
my-mod-scroll.bz2 == My reverted driver
I'll take a look at the traces.
I just want to thank you all for testing this so quickly! It is much
appreciated!
Thanks!
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I've made a test i386 psmouse module that will print out the ps/2
packets that are not handled by the alps driver. I would appreciate it
if someone would test it:
$ wget http://people.canonical.com/~cndougla/550625/v1/psmouse.ko
$ sudo rmmod psmouse
$ sudo insmod psmouse
Run your finger across
I can do it on my lunch break if you can provide a amd64 module in the
next hour.
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I've uploaded an amd64 version:
http://people.canonical.com/~cndougla/550625/v1/psmouse-amd64.ko.
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I followed your instructions with suod insmod psmouse-amd64.ko instead
of sudo insmod psmouse because the file wasn't found. Thanks for all
of your help.
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I've uploaded a new version of the psmouse module to
http://people.canonical.com/~cndougla/550625/v2/. This version of the
module adds the ALPS_PASS option for this hardware. The ALPS_PASS option
must be enabled or disabled properly or else absolute events will not be
enabled. My hope is that by
Wow - I go to work for 10 hours and out for a couple of beers afterwards
and in the meantime things have progressed at quite a clip. I tried v2
and ran comment 48 first, then 44. I am uploading the two files. Let me
know if there is anything else I can do.
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All the properties look correct to me. The right edge is defined as
anything to the right of value 870. I suggest we try to find out what X
values are being reported when we attempt to scroll on the right edge of
the touchpad. Someone please test the following:
You will want to print out or write
done this My alps has no output (event8), but I also have a ps2
mouse on event7, all data appears on this input.
See attached: events.tgz
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@tuxinvader:
Were you in the VT when you ran evtest? If you run evtest while in the
desktop X session, you won't receive anything. That's why I have the
chvt in the instructions.
I worry that the ps2 mouse events won't be comparable to the synaptics
events.
Thanks
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I wasn't, I was logged on via ssh.
I have just tested it again on the console (/dev/tty1), and I get
exactly the same output. Nothing on the ALPS device, everything on the
PS2 mouse device.
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I changed to VT and ran lsinput but the event number lines scrolled by
so fast that I couldn't see which one corresponded to the ALPS
Glidepoint. Is it OK to do lsinput from a terminal window in Gnome to
get the event number and then switch to VT to run the test?
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I just figured it out:
sudo lsinput | less
enter for each and then q when it reaches the end
I'm slowly learning...
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In VT, I did:
$ sudo lsinput | less
and found AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint at
/dev/input/event7
so then I did:
$ sudo evtest /dev/input/event7 | tee evtest.dump
and wound up with a blinking cursor and no output at all corresponding
to input from the trackpad. I had to do a forced shutdown to
@J. McDonald:
I'm sorry, sometimes I forget not everyone is a kernel hacker :). If you
run a command at the command line and you need to stop it, hitting
ctrl+c usually does the trick. That's what I would have used in this
instance. I should have been more clear.
So this is confirmation that
I only aspire to be a kernel hacker - but I'll get there someday! I can
load up a test kernel and give it a try if that would help with the
debugging. Thanks again.
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I while in VT I confirmed what Tuxinvader found. This time around
AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint was at /dev/input/event9 and PS/2 Mouse was
at /dev/input/event8.
Like Tuxinvager, I was able to get the trackpad to output but only with
$ sudo evtest /dev/input/event8 | tee evtest2.dump
evtest2.dump
No, I don't get any output. (I think I did what you suggested - put xinput
test AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint as a command in the terminal and nothing
came up, although when I tried to close the terminal a message came up
saying a process was running and I would kill it when I closed the
terminal. I
I'd prefer to leave this bug unduplicated, since I've been following
this bug and will be working on it shortly.
Thanks
** This bug is no longer a duplicate of bug 527890
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That sounds good. I probably should not have marked the duplication
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this bug.
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J, McDonald:
Just so you know, marking bugs as duplicates is generally a good thing
and helps keep bugs manageable. Definitely keep doing what you're doing.
It's just that in this case, I have a history with this bug, so I want
to work through things here. If this is marked as a duplicate, it
Alberto - sorry I didn't see your request earlier! Here it is.
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Mary - your xinput list props looks similar to mine, but in my case
xinput test confirms that it's actually PS/2 Mouse that is being used
instead of AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint. Are you able to get any output
from xinput test AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint when you use the trackpad?
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I think that is something related to driver,
Maybe Absolute mode is not working the way it should.
The Scrolling on Alps is managed by the absolute mode.
So if someone is able to debug the absolute mode please help
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Could this be a bug in evdev?
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I have a Sony Vaio VPCF11 which also uses the AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint
(E7: 73 02 64) running Kubuntu 10.04 beta 2. My problems with the
touchpad are identical to Mary's. xinput list-props shows a large list
of touchpad properties. Furthermore, changes that are made in the KDE
touchpad GUI are
I can confirm that xinput test PS/2 Mouse outputs relative movements
in kernel 2.6.32-21 and -20 while xinput test AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint
shows no response. In kernel 2.6.31-21, xinput test ImPS/2 Generic
Wheel Mouse outputs relative movements for the ALPS GlidePoint in the
HP Mini 311.
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I checked output from lsmod. It does not show synaptics as loaded.
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I'm subscribing Chase as he might have an idea about what's happening to
J. McDonald's touchpad in the kernel.
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@J. McDonald
2-finger scroll is grayed-out because (somehow) the kernel detected that you
trackpad doesn't support multitouch (i.e. the last two values of the Synaptics
capabilities property should be 0). If it used to work, then it's definitely a
kernel issue.
@Topher
I think you're still
@Mary
What's the output of the following command?
xinput list-props AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint
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I did try booting into the older kernel (2.6.32-20). Edge scrolling
suddenly reappeared but the trackpad tab disappeared from mouse
preferences. My Xorg.0 log is attached. I will also attach dmesg in a
few minutes
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Here is the dmesg
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Just to reiterate, with current kernel versions in Lucid beta 2 over the
last couple of days, edge scrolling is disabled, it is selectable from
Mouse Preferences but selecting or deselecting any option in Mouse
Preferences has no impact on the trackpads function. I don't use
2-finger scrolling,
I also have this problem with the ALPS GlidePoint trackpad on my HP Mini
311 on Lucid Beta 2. The buttons and tap to click work but edge
scrolling quite working, changes to Mouse Preferences have no impact
and 2-finger scroll is grayed-out of mouse preferences. This was
working until a daily
Thanks for the tip Mary. I installed the patch. No luck! No touchpad tab
in mouse prefs, no synaptics driver installed. Perhaps our hardware is a
little different. Either way, I hope this bug isn't going to be as
thorny as it looks... I'm resorting to a piece of cardboard taped over
the touchpad
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Mostly same here on my HP Mini 311. However my device isn't even
recognized as a touchpad; it's recognized as a generic mouse, thus
there's no Touchpad tab in mouse preferences. When I try to activate
syndaemon it says that there's no synaptics device found, so there's no
way to disable tapping
Confirming that this problem also exists in Ubuntu 10.04 Karmic beta 1
(ie, touchpad is recognized as a generic mouse device) on HP Mini 311.
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Topher, take a look at Bug 545307. There you will see that Chase recently
developed a patch for the Kernel for recognizing Alps touchpad type listed.
It worked for me. For me, now the tabs show up for me, but the settings
don't adjust. I am not sure if my problem with that is unique to me
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Also, I lost my ability to scroll with the edge of the touchpad when the
kernel was fixed.
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