[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread Benjamin Humphrey
A lot of terrible ideas come out of the Ubuntu camp, but this is one of the worst. -- Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/615300 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread Aethralis
Please, stop. This is idiocy at its worst. -- Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/615300 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread Aethralis
Sorry for the previous and rude comment. I'm not usually resorting to such kind of language but this really shocked me. Ubuntu is accused of copying Apple too much as it is but this is bringing it too far. It feels sad. -- Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread rafal cieslak
I also disagree with the idea of adding this signature by default. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/642839 -- Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/615300 You received this bug notification because you are a

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread Paul Sladen
Rafal: I've set that as a duplicate of this bug for the moment, to save splitting the conversation. -- Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/615300 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread Nicholas Christian Langkjær Ipsen
Please don't make this behavior default. PLEASE. -- Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/615300 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread Nicholas Christian Langkjær Ipsen
http://lifehacker.com/5580178/the-worst-email-habits-and-annoyances-you- should-avoid-or-at-least-be-aware-of -- Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/615300 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs,

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread Gavin Chappell
Sorry, no, I think this is a terrible idea. Sent from my iPhone as above at least has some use in that it's a sort-of implied apology for an otherwise rudely short, misspelt, jumble of thoughts masquerading as a real email. However even this I find annoying and offensive when compared to a

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread murrayy
You are really trying to make me feel ashamed of my operating system, aren't you? -- Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/615300 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread Shane Fagan
I dont like the wording but still I can see why we should do it and its the same reason why we now have the via ubuntu thing on twitter. Its advertising and its something we really need to work on. Maybe dont say sent from ubuntu say something a little bit less like you are copying what they did

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread Chauncellor
Shane: This is bad advertising. Go read an email from hotmail and notice the banners and adverts for msn-related things. This is the sort of nasty business that is getting shoved down these poor people's throats. The lifehacker article sums up very well the reason why this is something that

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread Josh Brown
Please only reply to this bug report if you have useful information to add, otherwise, post in the thread (+poll) on Ubuntu Forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1577753 -- Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/615300 You

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread Rodrigo Donado
Don't add it by default. Its more bits to be sent thought the Internet. And it really doesn't help at all. -- Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/615300 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs,

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread John King
I agree with Shane. I like to idea to some degree; but 'Sent from Ubuntu' isn't quite the right wording. In fact maybe, this just simply shouldn't be done by default. A lot of people here obviously see a problem with it. Something I've noticed lately is that there's not really a central community

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread Akshat Jain
It might be great for and opt-in! -- Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/615300 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread Vincent Nys
Tacky, useless clutter. If anyone actually wants this, they can still add a signature. Though you could manually remove it, too, default behaviour should be you get what you write. -- Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/615300 You

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread raindogx
Please don't make this the default. It is terribly tacky. -- Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/615300 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread Max_E
This is one of the worst ideas I've ever heard. It's obnoxious, tasteless, and totally out of character. I'm completely disgusted that this wasn't rejected out of hand. -- Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/615300 You received this

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread Jonathan Carter
How can Canonical do something this intrusive and rude without engaging with the community at large or getting some wider input first? I realise that Ubuntu is not a democracy and we don't vote on things, etc, but... seriously? -- Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread cicoandcico
This reminds me Microsoft Hotmail accouts default signature. Bad idea, guys. -- Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/615300 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. --

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread Conscious User
@Shane: Twitter is a completely different context. Mentioning the source of your tweets is a well-known part of its interface and API. I personally believe this signature can backfire badly. I don't think it's possible to come up with a wording that does not sound obnoxious. -- Set and/or

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread Shane Fagan
Yeah I didnt say that I liked the wording I was just saying if we are going to do it we shouldnt say sent from ubuntu because thats just crap and makes us sound desperate for new users. -- Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/615300

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread Jesse King
This is not a bug. I do not want a default signature set in my email client. -- Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/615300 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. --

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread Sam Barrow
I agree that this shouldn't be added. Smells like advertising. If someone wants to announce that they use Ubuntu at the bottom of their email, they can add it in about 5 seconds. -- Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/615300 You

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread Luis Lopez
Worst. Idea. Ever. You are going to be the MSN of the linux family. -- Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/615300 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. --

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread Murrquan
I switched from Yahoo! to GMail as soon as I found out they don't append ads to your messages. My phone drives me nuts by auto-filling the message body with Sent from my (carrier) (phone). This bug report is epic fail, and any increase in mindshare we get is going to come at the cost of

Re: [Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread Matthew East
On 19 September 2010 17:59, Jonathan Carter jonat...@ubuntu.com wrote: How can Canonical do something this intrusive and rude without engaging with the community at large or getting some wider input first? I realise that Ubuntu is not a democracy and we don't vote on things, etc, but...

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread Jonathan Jesse
+1 to what everyone said THis is a huge changed and should have been decided at one of the boards. Can we appeal to the Technical Board on this? Or some other goverance party? If we can't then Ubuntu is no longer a community created distro -- Set and/or enable default Evolution signature

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread Phil Bull
Please clarify whether this signature will be set as default for Maverick. We're well past documentation string freeze, but controversial changes like this have to be documented so that users can opt-out. If the default hasn't been changed yet, please consult the documentation and translation

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread mlx
I, for one, fail to see a problem here as long as it's simply a pre-set signature which is seen while typing an email and can be deleted both once as I'm typing a message AND deleted for good from the signatures. Just make sure the signature is below a double-dash so mail clients interpret it

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread mlx
Oh well, the four newlines got deleted from the post, but you get the idea... -- Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/615300 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. --

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread mlissner
Tacky. Please revert before release. Ubuntu should speak for itself. -- Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/615300 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. --

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread Charlie Kravetz
This gets more ridiculous, I believe. The mailing list signature, without personalizing it, becomes : -- Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/615300 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug.

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread Stephan Hermann
@Matthew, we are old and long standing Ubuntu contributors, and Ubuntu was never ever a community driven distro. What we are is a commercial driven distro, which is developed by the community. Nothing more, nothing less. This is a good thing, as I as a community developer can have a say to a

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread William Grant
Making ridiculous, controversial changes without community consultation... after FinalFreeze. Nice. -- Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/615300 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread Charlie Kravetz
@Phil Bull : This is the default already in Maverick. We are in final freeze, so a bug has been filed requesting this be reverted. That is bug 642839. -- Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/615300 You received this bug notification

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread William Grant
Ah, sorry, not actually after FinalFreeze. A while before, but hidden so that users wouldn't find it without reinstalling. -- Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/615300 You received this bug notification because you are a member of

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread Matthew East
Stephan - this isn't the place to have a debate about the nature of the Ubuntu project. I'm struggling to see whether what you have said is inconsistent with what I've said, but that's probably because I don't know what you mean by driven. Lets take it off the bug if you want to discuss further.

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread Charlie Kravetz
Launchpad is really not a forum to discuss a controversial change in a closed bug. bug 642839 is open, I have marked it as triaged, and those supporting reverting this change should really at least mark that bug as affecting them. That bug is the proper bug to request a change to the defaults be

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread Paul Sladen
** Description changed: Evolution should have a default signature such as Sent from Ubuntu., or similar. + + The mirror is bug #642839, which requests removal of the implemented + signature. + + Based on the first 1,000+ contributors to the following poll, 25% are for the signature (the

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread Seung Soo, Ha
I think that this should be an opt-in feature. -- Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/615300 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread tracyanne
I think this is a great idea, I don't find it at all bothersome when I receive emails from iPhone users. I'd like to have emails go out that advertise the fact that i use Ubuntu. The more people that know about Ubuntu the better, in my opinion. -- Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as

[Bug 615300] Re: Set and/or enable default Evolution signature as Sent from Ubuntu

2010-09-19 Thread Vish
** Description changed: Evolution should have a default signature such as Sent from Ubuntu., or similar. The mirror is bug #642839, which requests removal of the implemented signature. - Based on the first 1,000+ contributors to the following poll, 25% are for the signature (the