I think they are still not enough recognizable, using as disabled color
for the text a color which is not between the enabled color and the
background is a very brave choice and in my opinion is not paying off.
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I can work on this for Natty
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* helps making disabled menu items more readable (LP: #617192)
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Comparison between current and branch.
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Thanks, Fernando. The branch theme looks good for me.
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The branch version is very readable on my five years old notebook with a
CCFL-backlit TN-panel - even from an angle like when reading disabled
me-menu items, even at the lowest brightness setting. (Not so much on my
CRT, but that thing is ten years old and gotta diediedie!)
I really prefer it
@Hernando, how Network Manager applet looks to you using the patched
theme?
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I don't think I have control over network manager, it looks like it's using
something customized (in other words, it sents the color statically in the
source code of the applet)
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also, what do you think of the disabled menuitems in RADIANCE?
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Ditto.
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All Ok in Radiance for me.
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Radiance: basically ok for me. Personally, I'd like to see disabled menu
items in Radiance slightly darker to make it less dependent on display
type etc. (and yes I use a 8 years old CRT and indeed, themes look
different compared to LCD panels).
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Even with the branch theme, there are still some issues:
* (Important!) Menu bar items (Bug 627796)
* Embedded items in the menus, like in Chromium (Bug 617000)
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Just updated to the latest theme.
The change is noticeable when I look attentively, but ...
I feel really ashamed that I don't understand the intricacies of color
blending and such, but what I know for sure is that this theme strains
my eyes hard. I don't think I'll be able to stand it for long.
Andrea, you can use Dust theme behavior (when the disabled text is
*lighter*than the background). It's more easier to do it in Ambiance
because the
background is darker than in Dust.
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Branch with more contrasted disable menuitems.
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Andrea,
We really appreciate the work you put into this theme and that you're
responding to feedback.
However, it's hard for us to understand why you insist: you either have a very
special type of display (Mac Cinema 27?) or very sharp eyes or both :)
Many people here (and also 3 of my
very sharp eyes :) working on a small 10 2 years-old display of my
netbook :)
Do you really have problems in reading the menuitems, even in the latest
branch?
I don't have any problems with them, while making them bright will expose a
blur problem (the shadow is 1px and brighter than the menu
Oops, I think we commented simultaneously. Will update and report back.
Might take some time on my slow connection.
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 21:39, Andrea Cimitan andrea.cimi...@gmail.com wrote:
very sharp eyes :) working on a small 10 2 years-old display of my
netbook :)
Do you really have
Downloading 60MB of updates, but the only theme related update is for plimouth.
Am I doing something wrong?
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Yes... the code is not in a package... it's in the branch... don't mind!
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I've applied the patch and the disable menu items still are unreadable
for me, sorry.
Why the need to use a SO dark color for that? Remember that the dark
color is not only used in disabled menu items. It's used too in
Network Manager applet, for instance, as well as other places.
IMHO, we
If you notice, text in Lucid's Ambiance (and dust too) looks blurred. That's
because you're using a color brighter than the bg (and the inset is still
brighter than the bg).
For lighting/shadowing aspects, if we go with a brighter color, then we
should have a darker inset at the top of the text
let's see what people think about it, the new version is fat better than
the previous
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Can someone please explain how do I install the latest version of light theme.
I have just installed latest upgrade and haven't noticed any change at all.
I still have some kept back updates (but no theme related).
I am on 64-bit Maverick with Unity.
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It's way better than before, but I'm not sure those items are visible
enough yet. On older CRTs, older CCFL-backlit LCD panels (loose
brightness over time), or dimmed panels (to save battery) it might still
be hard to read.
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Looking at these screenshots I think I actually have the latest theme.
In that case, I strongly disagree that it's any better.
Andrea, to see why it's bad I'd recommend you try Unity.
If you click on the clock applet, you won't be able see the current date which
is just above the calendar.
The
The change is almost not observable. It's slightly better though not
ready for release IMO. Menus with disabled items look like having big
gaps. Not really appealling. The same holds for Radiance (not that
pronounced).
For me this bug is not fixed.
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I can fix the disabled menus (forgot to fix them), but to be honest I find the
disabled menuitems enough contrasted. They are disabled, not enabled, they
should be readable while keeping the attention to the enabled ones. Let's see
what other designers think.
The only way I have to increase the
should be readable you say? I agree :)
They are not even close to readable. On multiple displays I've tried,
and even my laptop with the brightness turned all the way up. Add the
CPU Frequency monitor to your panel, and try to read the numbers
displayed (enable show frequency units). It's not
The indicator datetime is behaving in the wrong way, I can't see any
reason why the date should be insensitive
The indicator-datetime, Dropbox and half the desktop. Really now... This
is going to be the buggiest theme that ever shipped with a Linux distro:
can't resize a window because the theme
This is another bug, has nothing to do with disabled menuitems, please
file a new bugreport
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don't you think you're exaggerating? I think so, thanks for your
feedback anyway.
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after some discussion with Andrea, it seems that latest light-themes is
way better at it. Please, reopen the bug if you don't agree to that.
** Changed in: light-themes (Ubuntu)
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Reopen it. The issue is still here with latest light-themes (Ambiance).
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raising the priority since its a problem with Brasero, indicator-
datetime which are in main and shipped with Ubuntu.
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Especially when I use transparent popup menus - no word is readable.
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Also, some apps display disabled items in the main menu.
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This is not a problem in Lucid, IMHO. The problem has been introduced
with Maverick's new version of the light themes, and (again IMHO) is a
big usability issue.
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This is even worse in Maverick than it was in Lucid. It seems the
separators (in tomboy notes, messaging, etc) are now smaller and almost
the same color as the background.
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Moreover, using disabled menu entries is the only way to present
information (passive) when using appindicator to implement a status
icon.
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This is particularly an issue when trying to read today's date in the
indicator-datetime menu.
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