[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2013-06-01 Thread John Hagerman
June 1, 2013, Ubuntu 13.04. I have set up apport to notify every time Weather Indicator crashes - and it still does, sometimes more than once a day. With Doug's workaround, it re-starts immediately, so the only problem now is the nuisance of having to check the crash report to verify it's

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2012-03-03 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
[Expired for Weather Indicator because there has been no activity for 60 days.] ** Changed in: weather-indicator Status: Incomplete = Expired -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report.

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2012-01-03 Thread John Hagerman
As promised, both my main rig and netbook were up continuously from Dec 25 through Jan 1. The main rig (wired) and the netbook (while wired) both had 'indicator-weather' crashs the morning of the 26th. (crash reports coming). Since the 26th the main rig (amd 64) has had numerous

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2012-01-03 Thread John Hagerman
Added attachment 2 ** Attachment added: _usr_bin_indicator-weather.1000.crash https://bugs.launchpad.net/weather-indicator/+bug/821832/+attachment/2655992/+files/_usr_bin_indicator-weather.1000.crash -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2012-01-03 Thread John Hagerman
Added attachment 3 ** Attachment added: _usr_bin_indicator-weather.1000.crash https://bugs.launchpad.net/weather-indicator/+bug/821832/+attachment/2656001/+files/_usr_bin_indicator-weather.1000.crash -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2012-01-03 Thread Doug Morse
Thanks John. As I mentioned before, the problems seem to be something amiss in libdbusmenu -- either the problem is there, or libdbusmenu is not checking for a problem condition for which it should be checking. It's quite likely that just a few lines of programming code need to be changed -- it's

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2012-01-03 Thread Justin
An apport trace and strace I caught trying to get something useful for this bug made me wonder if this is related to the issue in https://bugs.launchpad.net/weather-indicator/+bug/743541 Perhaps the underlying issue in dbusmenu is present in both situations. -- You received this bug

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2012-01-03 Thread John Hagerman
Possible, but I know 'indicator-weather' runs fine in my Ubuntu 11:10 i386, as I stated above. Jack -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/821832 Title: indicator-weather disappears

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2012-01-03 Thread John Hagerman
Works fine, Doug! I now have a crash in /var/crash and an 'indicator -weather' running. The workaround may not be the perfect fix, but it sure suits me. And it's entirely possible you've provided a hint which could lead to a permanent fix - not a bad day's work! Thank you! Jack -- You

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2012-01-03 Thread Justin
Right, hard to say then. Crashes have been extremely rare for me and so far I've only trapped once with enough detail and it looks much like 743541 though I originally thought I was looking at the situation discussed here. I've only probably seen 4 crashes since October on 11.10 on an i386 laptop.

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-12-25 Thread Doug Morse
So, my confidence is now pretty high that this is due to a problem in libdbusmenu, or some misuse of it by either Python itself or a Python extension (but I tend to doubt it's the latter two). So, not sure I can go much further with this right now. The next step I would take would be download

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-12-25 Thread Doug Morse
@John: Of course, I did *ask* you to add as attachment what you had already posted. :) Just goes to show how easy it is to overlook such things. :) Be well. --Doug -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-12-25 Thread John Hagerman
** Visibility changed to: Private -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/821832 Title: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly To manage notifications about this bug go to:

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-12-25 Thread John Hagerman
Thank you, Doug. As you see, I have returned this file to private, which it was originally until I was asked to make it public. I have been hoping since Natty somehow the developers would hit on the solution, but every update is a disappointment. I do note, however, indicator-weather never

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-12-25 Thread Doug Morse
@John: Sounds good, and Merry Christmas to you as well! I didn't really read through all the previous posts in this thread until just now, so wasn't aware Eliah had already cautioned you re: crash reports. I certainly will be more mindful of this issue in the future, both in offering out my

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-12-24 Thread Doug Morse
Hi John, Wow, lots of bug reports there, most of them segfaults from the looks of it. Your crash report could be helpful. Would you mind to post it as a a file attachment? I can't really work with as it is. The email message itself is, as it should be, has long lines wrapped, thereby

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-12-24 Thread John Hagerman
My apologies - old guys, when they get tired, tend to fall into old habits. here's the crash report as an attachment. John ** Attachment added: _usr_bin_indicator-weather.1000.crash

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-12-24 Thread Doug Morse
Thanks John. Well, for your crash, it looks like your crash is related to passing a menu message along dbus (see below). This isn't terribly diagnostic, but my best guess would be that the problem is occurring when indicator- weather is updating it appearance due to some change in weather

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-12-24 Thread Doug Morse
Yep, my crash was also was related to libdbusmenu, but further down in the program stack, and apparently on the Fetcher thread (according to IndicatorLog.txt). --- apport-retrace --- root@s3:/var/crash# apport-retrace -s -g _usr_bin_indicator-weather.1000.crash Reading symbols from

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-12-24 Thread Doug Morse
I should have noted: In the above comment (Comment #47), I believe the key lines of interest from the stack backtrace are lines 9 and 14: #9 0x7f39ef5557fc in ?? () from /usr/lib/libdbusmenu-glib.so.4 ... #14 0x7f39ef551254 in dbusmenu_menuitem_property_set_variant () from

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-12-23 Thread Doug Morse
Hi, I recently started using indicator-weather and also would like to see this bug resolved and am willing to help in any way I can. My $HOME/.cache/indicator-weather.log file is attached. Apparently, according to the log, I used indicator-weather a bit on Sept. 14, 2011 (i.e., on Natty). I

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-12-23 Thread Doug Morse
Oops, forgot to attach the logfile. Apologies for the dup message. ** Attachment added: indicator-weather.log https://bugs.launchpad.net/weather-indicator/+bug/821832/+attachment/2645383/+files/indicator-weather.log -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-12-23 Thread John Hagerman
Hey, Doug, welcome to this mess. I had long ago decided I was all alone with this nuisance! If you check for other bugs in indicator-weather you'll find it has had and still has a lot of problems. It seems also we no longer have Eliah Kagan to help, so I don't know where else to go. Perhaps

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-10-31 Thread John Hagerman
I spoke too soon. After a week of solidarity, indicator-weather has started shutting down unexpectedly in Ubuntu 11.10. I activated apport and, although it did not give me a reporting window, it gave me a crash report in /var/crash. What now? -- You received this bug notification because you

Re: [Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-10-23 Thread John Hagerman
On 11-10-23 12:53 PM, Eliah Kagan wrote: I apologize for taking so long without attending to this. Assuming you still have the affected system, are you willing to continue working on this problem? If so, others could benefit. But if not, I fully understand. Hey - no apologies necessary -

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-10-23 Thread Eliah Kagan
I apologize for taking so long without attending to this. Assuming you still have the affected system, are you willing to continue working on this problem? If so, others could benefit. But if not, I fully understand. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs,

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-10-22 Thread John Hagerman
This report is now moot. My computer now has 2 systems - Ubuntu 11.04 and Ubuntu 11.10, on different drives. Indicator-weather still disappears regularly from 11.04, but is steady in 11.10. We'll probably never know what small quirk in my version of 11.04 caused the problem, but 11.04 will be my

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-09-26 Thread Eliah Kagan
Sorry, I had forgotten that -S was added in the Oneiric version of apport-retrace. What happens when you do this (which should *not* appear as though it is doing nothing for hours)? apport-retrace -g 822931 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-09-26 Thread John Hagerman
It takes me through a series of Launchpad pages, eventually leading me to this page, which is bug 821832. I saw no report for bug 822931, only 3 bugs, 2 of which are very old, and this one. By the way, Indicator-weather is still sometimes reporting crashes, so I took a look at the details of

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-09-26 Thread Eliah Kagan
Just submitting a new report, with your system as it is, would probably not help. But if you can install all the debug symbol packages relevant to this crash, so that your new report contains a usable stack trace, then submitting a new report might provide the necessary information for a developer

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-09-26 Thread John Hagerman
OK, I get this far. jack@jackpc:~$ apt-cache policy yelp yelp: Installed: 3.0.0-0ubuntu2 Candidate: 3.0.0-0ubuntu2 Version table: *** 3.0.0-0ubuntu2 0 500 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status jack@jackpc:~$ sudo apt-get

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-09-26 Thread Eliah Kagan
The instructions on that page say: NOTE: 'yelp' [which is the package name of Help and Support located under the 'System' menu] is just an example and not a part of the command: 'yelp' is only used to demonstrate the procedure. You must replace 'yelp' with the name of the package you want to

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-09-26 Thread John Hagerman
And again the nooby is confused by the instructions! here are 1 to 4... jack@jackpc:~$ echo deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com $(lsb_release -cs) main restricted universe multiverse | \ sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ddebs.list [sudo] password for jack: deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com natty main

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-09-25 Thread Eliah Kagan
The Apport retracing service has not produced a symbolic stack trace in duplicate bug 822931, so can you try using apport-retrace -g to do so manually, and attach the trace here? (Duplicate bug 822931 doesn't look like it has or is going to automatically get enough information for a developer to

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-09-25 Thread John Hagerman
jack@jackpc:~$ apport-retrace -g The program 'apport-retrace' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install apport-retrace jack@jackpc:~$ sudo apt-get install apport-retrace [sudo] password for jack: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-09-25 Thread Eliah Kagan
Change directory to where your .crash files are stored: cd /var/crash Then list them: ls One of the .crash files listed is the crash reported for the weather indicator. Invoke apport-retrace -g on this file. Depending on what this .crash file is called, the command you use might be:

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-09-25 Thread John Hagerman
OK. What am I doing Wrong? jack@jackpc:~$ cd /var/crash jack@jackpc:/var/crash$ ls _usr_bin_audacity.1000.crash _usr_bin_indicator-weather.1000.crash jack@jackpc:/var/crash$ apport-retrace -g _user_bin_indicator-weather.1000.crash ERROR: _user_bin_indicator-weather.1000.crash is neither an

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-09-25 Thread Eliah Kagan
You entered the filename incorrectly, typing user instead of usr. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/821832 Title: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly To manage

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-09-25 Thread John Hagerman
You can really tell I'm a user, not an understander, of Linux! What now? jack@jackpc:~$ cd /var/crash jack@jackpc:/var/crash$ ls _usr_bin_audacity.1000.crash _usr_bin_indicator-weather.1000.crash jack@jackpc:/var/crash$ apport-retrace -g _usr_bin_indicator-weather.1000.crash ERROR: report file

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-09-25 Thread Eliah Kagan
I don't know why entries would be missing from your .crash file. What happens when you try having it retrace the crash as reported on Launchpad rather than using your local copy? (While we're at it, let's use a sandbox and automatically grab all the necessary debug symbols.) apport-retrace -g -S

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-09-25 Thread John Hagerman
jack@jackpc:~$ apport-retrace -g -S system 822931 Usage: apport-retrace [options] apport problem report | crash ID apport-retrace: error: no such option: -S jack@jackpc:~$ -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-09-21 Thread John Hagerman
A little something in addition to what has appeared here... Recently,Indicator-weather now does not always load when I start the computer and must be started individually, despite the fact it is listed in Startup Applications. Also, although Apport is installed and running, indicator-weather

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-08-08 Thread Eliah Kagan
Yes, as per my instructions above, you should use the Apport window that has come up to report a new bug. Please read https://bugs.launchpad.net /weather-indicator/+bug/821832/comments/6 very carefully, as I explained in detail what to do in this situation (starting about the middle of the third

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-08-08 Thread Eliah Kagan
@Mateusz Stachowski Since John Hagerman's bug is a crash, your bug is almost certainly a different one. (You could enable Apport as detailed in https://bugs.launchpad.net/weather-indicator/+bug/821832/comments/6 to be sure, but both your own observations and

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-08-08 Thread John Hagerman
A duplicate report has been submitted after indicator-weather closed unexpectedly. The reporting of this bug only vaguely resembled the instructions in Ubuntu Help. It seems the help page is out of date - clicking Report in the original Report a Problem window took me directly to Launchpad and an

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-08-08 Thread Eliah Kagan
A duplicate report has been submitted after indicator-weather closed unexpectedly. Are you willing to mark bug 822931 public (or subscribe me to it) so that I can take a look at it and see if it contains the necessary information? (See my discussion of visibility in

Re: [Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-08-08 Thread John Hagerman
On 11-08-08 03:15 PM, Eliah Kagan wrote: A duplicate report has been submitted after indicator-weather closed unexpectedly. Are you willing to mark bug 822931 public (or subscribe me to it) so that I can take a look at it and see if it contains the necessary information? (See my discussion

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-08-08 Thread Eliah Kagan
It appears to me that bug 822931 is private, and also that I am not subscribed to it. Please let me know if that is incorrect; then I will post a question for the Launchpad admins to investigate the problem. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-08-08 Thread Eliah Kagan
Sorry, I spoke too soon. Just after I said that, the change took effect. While you have not made bug 822931 public, I am subscribed and do have access. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.

Re: [Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-08-08 Thread John Hagerman
On 11-08-08 04:17 PM, Eliah Kagan wrote: Sorry, I spoke too soon. Just after I said that, the change took effect. While you have not made bug 822931 public, I am subscribed and do have access. I have also gone back and made 822931 public - and I know more now about Apport and Launchpad than I

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-08-07 Thread Eliah Kagan
** Also affects: indicator-weather (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/821832 Title: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-08-07 Thread Eliah Kagan
It was a mistake for me to add indicator-weather in Ubuntu to this bug, since so far this has only been produced with the version from the weather-indicator-team PPA. The indicator-weather (Ubuntu) task can be reopened if anyone experiences this bug with the officially packaged Ubuntu version.

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-08-07 Thread Eliah Kagan
To provide the file ~/.cache/indicator-weather.log, please run this command in a Terminal after indicator-weather disappears (while it is still disappeared): cp ~/.cache/indicator-weather.log ~/Desktop Now that the file is on the Desktop, it's easy to locate using graphical programs (such as

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-08-07 Thread Mateusz Stachowski
I also have these problems with your indicator. It mostly works good but there are times that it doesn't show up on the panel. I can see that it is running in system monitor but it just doesn't show up and killing the process (and then starting it) doesn't solve problem. ** Attachment added:

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-08-07 Thread Eliah Kagan
@John Hagerman By comparison to Mateusz Stachowski's log, I can see that the file IndicatorLog.txt (automatically attached from your system by Apport) is a complete log, and corresponds specifically to indicator-weather. Therefore, it is not necessary for you to provide the information I

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-08-07 Thread Eliah Kagan
(Keep status Incomplete pending determination of whether or not this is an Apport-reportable crash.) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/821832 Title: indicator-weather disappears from

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-08-07 Thread Eliah Kagan
@Mateusz Stachowski It's possible that you're experiencing a different bug. In this (John Hagerman's) bug, the indicator-weather process is actually terminating when indicator-weather disappears. On your system, it does not terminate. Finding out whether or not John Hagerman's bug is a crash

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-08-07 Thread John Hagerman
My apologies for being so far behind in answering queries. In my own defence, I sometimes work nights and don't get up until noon my time, so we may be working at cross purposes. First - I have not seen any of the windows shown in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport. In fact, I have no idea how to

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-08-07 Thread Eliah Kagan
Do you know if you enabled Apport (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport#How_to_enable_apport)? If you are not sure if it is really enabled, try opening a Terminal window, running nano (type nano and press enter), then open a new tab and run killall -SEGV nano (without the quotes). If Apport is enabled,

Re: [Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-08-07 Thread John Hagerman
On 11-08-07 03:45 PM, Eliah Kagan wrote: Do you know if you enabled Apport (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport#How_to_enable_apport)? If you are not sure if it is really enabled, try opening a Terminal window, running nano (type nano and press enter), then open a new tab and run killall -SEGV

[Bug 821832] Re: indicator-weather disappears from panel randomly

2011-08-07 Thread John Hagerman
I now have a couple of shutdowns of indicator-weather and a crash report in /var/crash. I have held the Apport window that popped up but have not reported. I await your instructions. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.