ok! Thank you for your reaction! (I'm not good in monologues :-))
I agree with you both with the arguments you give - absolutely, and here's
my point now:
- Microsoft never had to convince its audience with so many care and
tactics: you see a nice example of this if you look at the difference
betw
On 23/07/07, Stephanvaningen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> - The only
> files on their windows system are probably just some .doc, .xls, .ppt,
> .jpg-pictures from holidays and some mp3's -- all easilly usable on Ubuntu.
Not quite.
Maybe in English-speaking countries, but not here in Israel.
MS-O
Very well put Nick. Ubuntu users must adhere to a growth strategy in
order for this to work... Many people are not willing to give up windows
yet and that's all well and fine. Ubuntu is not ready to provide
everything that certain market segments need, and thats just where we're
at right now. Ho
My experience, which may differ from others, especially Stephan Vanigan,
is that compelling people to upgrade from Windows to Ubuntu causes a lot
of damage.
I have tried strong encouragement and inducement, and found that users
will fall back on me to push them every inch of the way. It is just no
I disagree with you, here's why...
The Ubuntu UI is great, but they aren't familiar with it. I don't know
enough about linux to fix some of the issues they may have -and- what
about when they want to use a new windows program that comes out and
doesn't work on emu's... Gamers will stick with win
- Whenever you are asked by a friend, an Uncle, your mother, whoever, ... to
help them with their computer, install Ubuntu - no discussion. The only
files on their windows system are probably just some .doc, .xls, .ppt,
.jpg-pictures from holidays and some mp3's -- all easilly usable on Ubuntu.
-
Strictly from a business standpoint what we need to do is get computer-
sharp people to use Ubuntu to get the snowball going - people who are
willing to switch over... Your average home or office user is not going
to do it just yet for obvious reasons. When the demand for this os is
high enough,
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> On 23/07/07, DanTrevino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 7/23/07, Amir E. Aharoni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Writing documents and university papers can't get much better than
> > > MS-Office, OpenOffice, TeX and DocBook. Each of them
On 23/07/07, DanTrevino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 7/23/07, Amir E. Aharoni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Writing documents and university papers can't get much better than
> > MS-Office, OpenOffice, TeX and DocBook. Each of them caters rather
> > well to their respective markets (except some
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[...]
> Writing documents and university papers can't get much better than
> MS-Office, OpenOffice, TeX and DocBook. Each of them caters rather
> well to their respective markets (except some interoperability issues,
> which are really rather m
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> I get tired of reading soo many blogs, but I wish I could read all of
> this quickly. Can we put some effort in the text to speech engines?
> F-Microshift, eat my short Bill.
There is a point here.
I just thought about it today: Where does the comp
I get tired of reading soo many blogs, but I wish I could read all of
this quickly. Can we put some effort in the text to speech engines?
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Can I "sudo dpkg --purge clueless-users" and then install better ones?
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Tony Ruottu said : Ubuntu is not fragmented in that
way. I see no reason why you should expect Ubuntu to be compatible with
some other operating system, say Fedora.
Yeah I think that Ubuntu made a big step into gathering people and
functionnalities were Debian had already made big works. Here I do
I want to share the condition of Nepal, where more than 90 percentage of
computers are based on pirated softwares, OS is pirated windows. Madan Puraskar
Pustakalaya is translating linux in Nepali language. Here are very few number
of Ubuntu users, I am newbie to Ubuntu, just installed in my mach
Forgot to add a link last time.
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Right on !! Kilz !!!good going. 64bit Ubuntu works great, no other O/S
can cut it. And for "mission critical" stuff it's the only way.
Looking forward to seeing your "nsplugin wrapper', although , thanks to
Ubuntu, no strong need here (yet).
Tell people the truth ! There are way too many choi
With the availability of nspluginwrapper (I wrote a install script that dose it
in 30 seconds) Flash is a non issue. Giving me a link to the 64bit section is
like giving someone a map to their home. :) I also know that a large amount of
Fud, that gets repeated by quite a few people outside of th
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> One has to wonder why, with the first step towards fixing this bug (Dell
> coming pre installed). Why those 64bit computers come with the 32bit
> version of Ubuntu installed.
I also wondered about it for a long time, and a friend of mine solved
the my
One has to wonder why, with the first step towards fixing this bug (Dell
coming pre installed). Why those 64bit computers come with the 32bit
version of Ubuntu installed. Perhaps if the 64bit version was good
enough to pre installed it would give buyers another reason to choose
Ubuntu over the 32bi
> Linux is fragmented.
That is why you don't consider Linux an operating system, and that is
also why you use Ubuntu in first place. Ubuntu is not fragmented in that
way. I see no reason why you should expect Ubuntu to be compatible with
some other operating system, say Fedora. It happens to be f
This bug is really critical in Canada too.
Here's my opinion about major problems that causes this bug to exist (
this is a bit long ).
There's 2 aspects to fix around this bug
1. The technical aspects ( making Ubuntu a better system which will be far more
than just usable)
2. Th
> > My primary concern now is the wireless drivers.
>
> http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/net/wireless/cards.html
I am familiar with this page.
Good luck trying to find an actual laptop that comes with one of those
cards.
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Ricket Said:
This makes me laugh.
Until Ubuntu is as easy to set up, use, and as stable as Windows, as well as
universally-supported, Ubuntu will never replace Windows.
Chances of that happening in the near future? Slim.
Hello Ricket
I have set up several windows machines recently, not out of c
This makes me laugh.
Until Ubuntu is as easy to set up, use, and as stable as Windows, as
well as universally-supported, Ubuntu will never replace Windows.
Chances of that happening in the near future? Slim.
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Thanks OK Amir !
Lots of us are equally curious. With the latest forays into cross-licensing
and other such ilk it would seem apparent that "proprietary drivers" will
be ground into dust. There are many "free" operating systems, most will just
"hack' the drivers, or come up with a workaround. The
Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
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>> Even a really good vendor like Intel still has the odd propietary blob
>> (on the way out, but still there).
>>
>
> Sorry to wander further off-topic, but this really intrigued me:
>
> What do you mean b
On 05/07/07, Mark Shuttleworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> (on the way out, but still there).
Sorry to wander further off-topic, but this really intrigued me:
What do you mean by "on the way out"? My primary concern now is
On Thu, 5 Jul 2007, Paul Flint wrote:
Note the removal of extra "certify" in first line of message...
>
> Dear Mark,
>
> How about having a division of Canonical that certifies hardware
> and supporting driver software as "Ubuntu Compliant"? This could be a
> supportable enterprise. Fees paid
Dear Mark,
How about having a division of Canonical certify that certifies hardware
and supporting driver software as "Ubuntu Compliant"? This could be a
supportable enterprise. Fees paid by manufacturers to allow them to
display the "Certified Ubuntu" product logo on their equipment might pa
I found two wishlist bugs that proposed something similar to what i am
proposing: Bug #77311 and Bug #63192 . Both were marked as invalid.
I guess that this time i'll give up and buy a restricted laptop, but i'd
really like to be able to use the radically-free Gutsy without
installing additional f
Amir E. Aharoni wrote:
> What i would be happy to see is a website with a directory of laptops,
> such as the www.dpreview.com directory of digital cameras, where i can
> find a laptop according to its parts and EASILY filter out the non-free
> ones. It's really weird that in 2007 i couldn't find s
Mark - thanks for the reply!
Your suggestion may work, and i may try it, but even i am embarrassed by
it; note - i want to know that the system is free *before* i buy it.
Theoretically i can pop a live CD in the store, but it is embarrassing
and time-consuming. Being able to prepare for this befor
It's definitely important to be able to know if a device will work with
free software drivers only. I think the radically-free Live CD would be
one way to do it. Another might be if we build this information into the
hardware device manager... perhaps just booting normal Ubuntu and
running the res
n. Who will bother to
try to install it, if it's too damn hard to find a properly free
computer which can run it?
I know that this sounds very pretentious and i am not even close to
being a notable member of the Ubuntu community, but i think that this is
a bit of a meta-bug in itself and that
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Just upgraded a PC for my 77-year old father to browse the web, e-mail,
view pics of the grandkids, etc. I was faced with moving him from
Win98->Vista.Seemed a bit like taking a dumptruck to the grocery
store to me. Long story short, he's running Ubuntu and couldn't care
less. I think the le
People don't usually buy computes to run Microsoft Windows on, or to run
GNU/Linux on. They buy computers to do their word processing,
spreadsheets, web browsing, email, ebay selling, playing DVDs, playing
MP3s, accessing the media files they 'own' etc.
So long as a user isn't addicted to specific
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As i understand dell and hp are with us now ?
HW related part of this bug seems to become healty.
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I disagree with the premise of this bug. I've never bought a computer
with a pre-installed OS. Systems without pre-installed software have
been available since before 1987 when I bought my first x86 machine.
Yeah, yeah, I know the Great and Powerful and Evil MS dominates the
market and free softwar
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This article on Groklaw may indicate a relevant shift in the market:
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2007062209235346
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I found one company in France which sell desktop and laptop and let the choice
for the user.
But you only choice between Fedora Core 6, Windows or nothing. No Ubuntu yet.
The website is also in English. It's for everyone.
Contact me if you want to know the name of the company.
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In march 2007 there was a tiny step to bug fix in france. The national
assembly of france (Assemblée nationale) decided to use ubuntu on all of
their 1154 workstations - to save money and to be able to configure each
system to the users individual needs. They decided to use firefox 2.0
and openoffi
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Just letting you know that we have a bugfix (albeit in pre-alpha stage right
now) here in Poland. Here's the deal:
quite a lot of users in Poland usually buys their boxen in computer shops,
where they are able to pick every single component to their liking; or they
have their machines assembled
Don´t worry: M$ itself is dued by the world´s biggest patent holder for
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The bug is very significant and easily seen in India.
Melinda Gates foundation is ensuring that bug shouldn't get solved easily.
Under the name of charity, Micro$oft is sowing seeds to produce more and more
Micro$oft users and professionals in future. Micro$oft is doing Business in
disguise of
Hold it ! Right there ! we're going to be sued en masse. Microsoft has
flatly stated that we Linux users violate 235 patents. OK ! Let's
co-operate, and each one of us should send all of our source AND binary
code, from every computer that we own to Microsoft, yes, let's 'fess up.
Let Microso
Hold it ! Right there ! we're going to be sued en masse. Microsoft has
flatly stated that we Linux users violate 235 patents.
OK ! Let's co-operate, and each one of us should send all of our source AND
binary code, from every computer that we own to Microsoft, yes, let's 'fess up.
Let Mi
mommedia.com: if you must translate your posts into multiple languages,
please post them as a single post rather than as multiple ones. To
answer your question though, its primarily FUD.
It probably doesn't affect FOSS outside of the US and in the US its a
bit tenuous; this has all the hallmarks
Hallo,
tut jedes wissen, wie die spätesten Nachrichten von Mitgliedstaat; beeinflußt
die OpenSource Gemeinschaft und die Zukunft von Ubuntu?
„, indem die Herstellung eines Paktes mit Novell, Microsoft, andeutete
auch h, daß jedermann, das Linux von einem anderen Verkäufer herunterlud
oder kaufte,
Olá! todos,
faz qualquer um sabem, como a notícia a mais atrasada do MS; afetará a
comunidade de OpenSource e o futuro de Ubuntu?
“Fazendo um pacto com Novell, Microsoft igualmente implicou que qualquer
um que transferiu ou comprou o linux de um outro vendedor estava fazendo
tão ilegal”
Pode ess
Bonjour,
fait quiconque connaissent, comment les dernières nouvelles de la milliseconde;
affectera la Communauté d'OpenSource et le futur d'Ubuntu ?
« En faisant un pacte avec Novell, Microsoft a également impliqué que
n'importe qui qui a téléchargé ou a acheté le Linux d'un autre
fournisseur fai
Hola a todos,
Ultimas en noticias del MS;
¿afectará a la comunidad de OpenSource y al futuro de Ubuntu?
“Haciendo un pacto con Novell, Microsoft también implicó que cualquier persona
que transfirió o compró linux de otro vendedor hacía tan ilegal”
Mi pregunta=¿Puede esa entidad corrupta inte
Hello everyone,
does anybody know, how the latest news from MS; will affect the OpenSource
Community and the future of Ubuntu?
“By making a pact with Novell, Microsoft also implied that anyone who
downloaded or bought Linux from another vendor was doing so illegally”
Can that corrupt entity actu
I can confirm the pervasiveness of this bug in Ecuador. No computer
store sells computers with Linux preloaded -- almost everyone chooses to
install unlicensed Microsoft Windows copies, which increases Windows
market share. Computer manufacturers are under the delusion that
Microsoft Windows is s
@ DarkMageZ
I would agree with you 100%. I think if we look at my history of Blog
post and comments buisness adoption is the key to global adoption.
The Active Directory is a wonderful tool. I present that even with it's
pretty GUI and integration is still falls short of what Novell offers,
but
part of the problem is a lack of an active directory replacement. sure
it's possible to hack parts of what active directory does to happen, but
without a proper replacement with all the important features... ubuntu
stands no chance in big organizations on the desktops.
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David A. Benitez wrote: "It has probably been said before, but how
about this? Take some money and get two ads in two newspapers [...] I'm
sure you've heard of the Firefox ad campaign, how about you do something
like that?"
Mark Shuttleworth replied to a very similar qestion on April 25th:
"all
nomy:^) of this
form of advertisement:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWIrxuF5NSo
I would value your thoughts on this.
Kindest Regards,
Paul
On Fri, 11 May 2007, David A. Benitez wrote:
> Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 17:07:47 -
> From: David A. Benitez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
"Hi, to me Linux is so superior to Microsoft Windows or Mac that I put up
with the problems,"
The battle rages on the figure out this problem. While I make it known I
am a Mac user I am also a big fan of Linux and evangelis on Ubuntu to
anyone who will listen.
We all can agree that Windows is lar
It has probably been said before, but how about this?
Take some money and get two ads in two newspapers in the US, Canada,
Africa, Europe, South America, etc.
I know in the USA, the two major newspapers are "The New York Times" and
"The Wall Street Journal".
I figure if some company bigwig can g
Hi i am from Portugal!
I use Windows daily, and you want to know why i dont use Linux ( i say linux
not Ubuntu because this bug applyes to the Linux community not only Ubuntu ) ?
Well first because my modem is very hard to get it to work ( the so know
SpeedTouch 330 gray, worse my isp uses PPPoE
Hi, to me Linux is so superior to Microsoft Windows or Mac that I put up
with the problems,
BUT , you're right. And I keep a MS Windows laptop handy.
Allen
On 5/11/07, dsula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> The difference between windows and linux is, that windows simply works,
> whereas for linux
The difference between windows and linux is, that windows simply works,
whereas for linux you need a degree in software enginnering to get it to
run right. I'm using Linux for 10 years now, and things haven't improved
much. I installed the kubuntu 7.04 and guess what, blank screen on boot.
Easy fix
Buenas Dias ! y hola Jesus !
You have raised some excellent ideas, (muy poco Espanol)
It would be very easy to start a business such as this one:
http://system76.com/index.php/cPath/1
And with "Vista" coming from Microsoft it will be very difficult for
students to buy new computers, it is very ex
Here in Venezuela the last week in the mailing list of Ubuntu Venezuela
Team https://launchpad.net/~nejode talked about his first Ubuntu
Customization to Spanish language by default without using Internet get
Spanish packages.
This idea was welcome he's work was just the start and It was converte
A small update to my previous comment: though it is still on the pages
for computers with Windows, I note that "Dell recommends Windows Vista™
Home Premium." has been stricken from the 'Coming Soon' page (which I
also note redirects from http://www.dell.com/ubuntu :)
Also of note regarding the Del
to say that) and specifically mentions Dell, Lenovo, HP and Acer.
The next indicator of progress towards resolving Bug #1 will be to watch
for the "Mark" to drop off the websites of various OEMs...
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Dell's decision to sell hardware with Ubuntu Feisty Fawn preinstalled
will surely make Microsoft's market share lower and promote Ubuntu more
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@ Conrad Knauer
I know about the WINE port but what I was thinking was literally "openX"
The calls direct x developers use to the engine are widely documented.
If you replicated function names and even objects but wrote the code from
scratch to do much the same thing using openGL libraries I doub
Funny first bug post !
In 10 years M$ developers will say the same thing about Ubuntu ! ;)
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1 to 8 hours
depending on your Internet speed and how fast your computer is."
It would be cool if there was a "Start downloading now, and bug be about
completing the upgrade later." option.
Nicolai
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Wow! the speed and the look of the new Ubuntu 7.04 is nice. But there
is something wrong with the Wireless Network Adapter Drivers, it does
not authenticate the connection. I get an error about Atheros
being/using an incomparable driver.
However, after long hours of configuration and figuring ou
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Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 11:34 AM
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Hi "M C Chan "
You are correct At this point few Ubuntu members, paid and unpaid, seem
willing to persue this simple
It is sad most of us thinking that this is a bug, it is only a marketing method
that MS flex its muscle, the way that we can beat MS is to make Ubuntu OS
simple with user friendly and best of all put the onus onto the users to
maintain its effeciency by allow them to do update with clear instruc
That's the way to fix this. Most users don't even know what is free
software. Most people think a computer comes with a monitor, a keyboard,
and windows!
We must educate users. A good start is http://www.getgnulinux.org, which
is written in such an easy language "that any windows users would be
ab
@Wayne (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1/comments/338) I disagree. It
depends on multiple things.
The bug does not show up on certain hardware. For example, I cannot reproduce
this bug on PowerPC or 68k desktops/laptops at all. However, the bug is
extremely common on prebuilt x86
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This has not been a bug in my household since 1999.
We have several pc's and cannot reproduce this bug at all.
Please close.
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@Kristopher:
>From what I've seen, OpenGL is both more powerful and faster than DirectX (in
>fact, DirectX is still basically a copy of the OpenGL libraries). In addition,
>any developers who compile their games for both Mac and Windows (provided they
>do that by actually making just one core an
Yes, i have a dream: i dream of a world where every king of game is both
a game and a live linux distro so that you can put the cd in your
reader, reboot and play the game virtually without the need for an OS. I
dream of a world where any game is sold with a .deb an a .rpm
installation file include
> would it be possible to create "openX" or similar,
> essentially as a translation library for DirectX->OpenGL
As per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Direct3D_and_OpenGL
"Several partially functional ports of the Direct3D API have been made
by Wine, a project to port common Windows AP
I second that.
But would it be possible to create "openX" or similar, essentially as a
translation library for DirectX->OpenGL
-I have absolutely no idea but the only thing keeping Windows on my home system
is my addiction to
I have heard rumours of people running under WINE but so far I've onl
I completely agree with the idea of games being a major bar to
mainstream Linux. However, I've often wondered, how OpenGL compares to
directX10. There exists a chicken and egg scenario for Linux games, but
if OpenGL, in addition to being cross-platform, actually allowed
developers to take games fur
that's the best patch I've seen for the bug to date. Good work.
On 4/9/07, suntin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I had exactly this problem with a new DELL that I ordered, only the bug
> seems to be getting worse.
>
> The purchase options gave a choice of 4 versions of something called "Windows
> V
I had exactly this problem with a new DELL that I ordered, only the bug
seems to be getting worse.
The purchase options gave a choice of 4 versions of something called "Windows
Vista", I had been unfortunate enough to have been exposed to this before when
it was in BETA and despite searching for
Lets have a view to the future, millions of computers need much more
power in graphics and cpu to drive only the MS Vista. So the MS bug
cause us million of tons more CO2 for faster Earth demolition. Offering
smaller operating systems like xubuntu or fluxbuntu on energysaving
hardware will save ele
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