Featured Games (was Re: Review of featured applications)

2010-03-25 Thread Bryce Harrington
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 02:55:09AM +, Shane Fagan wrote: > > I've tested both openarena and nexuiz. > Nexuiz is dying upstream from what I hear so I wouldnt feature it > myself. The development team had a big split recently and a lot of the > developers are making forks of it. So id say Open Ar

Re: Review of featured applications

2010-03-25 Thread Bryce Harrington
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 08:42:04PM -0700, Rick Spencer wrote: > > > Saying it in a simpler way: > > > - Will an IDE encourage people to learn programming? > > > - Will opportunistic developers be able to use it to complete their > > > desired project? > > > - Will experienced developers find the s

Re: Review of featured applications

2010-03-25 Thread Christopher James Halse Rogers
On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 03:32 +, Shane Fagan wrote: > On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 14:22 +1100, Robert Ancell wrote: > > On 26/03/10 14:05, Shane Fagan wrote: > > >> - Remove Eclipse > > >> - Huge download > > >> - Only supports Java out of the box > > >> - The Eclipse brand is strong enough

Re: Review of featured applications

2010-03-25 Thread Rick Spencer
On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 03:32 +, Shane Fagan wrote: > On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 14:22 +1100, Robert Ancell wrote: > > On 26/03/10 14:05, Shane Fagan wrote: > > >> - Remove Eclipse > > >> - Huge download > > >> - Only supports Java out of the box > > >> - The Eclipse brand is strong enough

Re: Review of featured applications

2010-03-25 Thread Shane Fagan
On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 03:27 +, Arand Nash wrote: > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 2:44 AM, Krzysztof Klimonda > wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 02:16 +, Arand Nash wrote: > > > I've tested both openarena and nexuiz. > > What about Warsow? I've found it the most compelling from all three > >

Re: Review of featured applications

2010-03-25 Thread Shane Fagan
On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 14:22 +1100, Robert Ancell wrote: > On 26/03/10 14:05, Shane Fagan wrote: > >> - Remove Eclipse > >> - Huge download > >> - Only supports Java out of the box > >> - The Eclipse brand is strong enough that it doesn't need promoting > >> > > Im going to go out

Re: Review of featured applications

2010-03-25 Thread Arand Nash
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 2:44 AM, Krzysztof Klimonda wrote: > > On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 02:16 +, Arand Nash wrote: > > I've tested both openarena and nexuiz. > What about Warsow? I've found it the most compelling from all three > games. It has a nice graphics and some nice concepts. I'm not sure

Re: Review of featured applications

2010-03-25 Thread Shane Fagan
Makes sense Rick, I agree with that. Hmmm maybe for lucid+1 we might be able to detect if they have installed development tools before and suggest some in featured applications. -Fagan On Thu, 2010-03-25 at 20:18 -0700, Rick Spencer wrote: > Shane, good thought, but I don't think any developer t

Re: Review of featured applications

2010-03-25 Thread Robert Ancell
On 26/03/10 14:05, Shane Fagan wrote: >> - Remove Eclipse >> - Huge download >> - Only supports Java out of the box >> - The Eclipse brand is strong enough that it doesn't need promoting >> > Im going to go out on the limb and suggest we replace it with > Monodevelop it supports m

Re: Review of featured applications

2010-03-25 Thread Rick Spencer
Shane, good thought, but I don't think any developer tools are interesting for featured applications. The Featured section is not geared to a developer user, so I think we should just pull out Eclipse and leave it at that. Cheers, Rick On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 03:05 +, Shane Fagan wrote: > > - R

Re: Review of featured applications

2010-03-25 Thread Shane Fagan
> - Remove Eclipse >- Huge download >- Only supports Java out of the box >- The Eclipse brand is strong enough that it doesn't need promoting Im going to go out on the limb and suggest we replace it with Monodevelop it supports mono,java,python,valaetc although require the user to i

Re: Review of featured applications

2010-03-25 Thread Robert Ancell
I've opened a bug to request the following changes: - Remove Eclipse - Huge download - Only supports Java out of the box - The Eclipse brand is strong enough that it doesn't need promoting - Replace chromium-bsu with tumiki-fighters - chromium has poor performance on non-3D accelerated

Re: Review of featured applications

2010-03-25 Thread Shane Fagan
> I've tested both openarena and nexuiz. Nexuiz is dying upstream from what I hear so I wouldnt feature it myself. The development team had a big split recently and a lot of the developers are making forks of it. So id say Open Arena would be a lot more suitable long term. Id love to get a rating

Re: Review of featured applications

2010-03-25 Thread Arand Nash
Robert Ancell wrote: > On 26/03/10 13:16, Arand Nash wrote: >> On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 18:04 +1100, Robert Ancell wrote: >> >>> I also wanted to pick one FPS but they all seemed difficult to use. >>> The problems seemed to be similar: >>> * Huge downloads >>> * Opening and choosing first

Re: Review of featured applications

2010-03-25 Thread Krzysztof Klimonda
On Fri, 2010-03-26 at 02:16 +, Arand Nash wrote: > On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 18:04 +1100, Robert Ancell wrote: > > > I also wanted to pick one FPS but they all seemed difficult to use. > > The problems seemed to be similar: > > * Huge downloads > > * Opening and choosing first menu (e.

Re: Review of featured applications

2010-03-25 Thread Robert Ancell
On 26/03/10 13:16, Arand Nash wrote: > On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 18:04 +1100, Robert Ancell wrote: > >> I also wanted to pick one FPS but they all seemed difficult to use. >> The problems seemed to be similar: >> * Huge downloads >> * Opening and choosing first menu (e.g. "single player") o

Re: Review of featured applications

2010-03-25 Thread Arand Nash
On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 18:04 +1100, Robert Ancell wrote: > I also wanted to pick one FPS but they all seemed difficult to use. > The problems seemed to be similar: > * Huge downloads > * Opening and choosing first menu (e.g. "single player") often > didn't work, there were no bo

Re: Review of featured applications

2010-03-25 Thread Ted Gould
On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 18:04 +1100, Robert Ancell wrote: > I also wanted to pick one FPS but they all seemed difficult to use. > The problems seemed to be similar: > * Huge downloads > * Opening and choosing first menu (e.g. "single player") often > didn't work, there were no bo

Re: Review of featured applications

2010-03-09 Thread Martin Pitt
Sense Hofstede [2010-03-06 18:06 +0100]: > I think that not including Battle for Wesnoth would be a shame. This > is a very complete game with a lot of available content and it is > translated into many languages and you can even download extra > scenarios! Moreover, Wesnoth starts with a tutorial

Re: Review of featured applications

2010-03-07 Thread Jan Claeys
Op maandag 01-03-2010 om 18:04 uur [tijdzone +1100], schreef Robert Ancell: > The criteria from the specification are: > > * Is available in main or universe > * Is a GUI app > * Does not replace a default application > * Does not replace another featured application > * Is wel

Re: Review of featured applications

2010-03-06 Thread Sense Hofstede
Hello, I think that not including Battle for Wesnoth would be a shame. This is a very complete game with a lot of available content and it is translated into many languages and you can even download extra scenarios! Moreover, Wesnoth starts with a tutorial game that explains the basics of the game

Re: Review of featured applications

2010-03-06 Thread Rick Spencer
If a KDE app works great on Ubuntu and meets the goals and guidelines laid out, then it is fine to include. However, for Lucid, "Featured" will focus on Ubuntu, and not Kubuntu or other *buntus. We should discuss at UDS if there is some way to extend the notion to Kubuntu, Edubuntu, etc... Cheers,

Re: Review of featured applications

2010-03-05 Thread Robert Ancell
That raises a good point - should the list be the same in Ubuntu and Kubuntu? Note that the list is stored in the software-center package and could be different for each distribution. KDE applications have not been excluded but it is worth noticing the installation and integration experience i

Re: Review of featured applications

2010-03-04 Thread Jeremy Bicha
* I recommend Marble, a desktop globe that is part of KDE's Education Project. There is a basic offline map, but the online OpenStreetMap map view is especially cool. It is worth mentioning that the Software Center is installed by default for Kubuntu also, so there is no need to exclude KDE best-o

Re: Review of featured applications

2010-03-01 Thread Robert Ancell
On 02/03/10 10:28, Bryce Harrington wrote: > On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 09:40:46AM +1100, Robert Ancell wrote: > >> Sure. It was hovering at the top of the B-list for me :) >> yofrankie (3d platform, no clear objectives - boring!) >>> This game has been pretty popul

Re: Review of featured applications

2010-03-01 Thread Bryce Harrington
On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 09:40:46AM +1100, Robert Ancell wrote: > Sure. It was hovering at the top of the B-list for me :) > >> yofrankie (3d platform, no clear objectives - boring!) > >> > > This game has been pretty popular when it was out and I think we > > should really include it in the

Re: Review of featured applications

2010-03-01 Thread Robert Ancell
> - I didn't know at all moovida, it seems to be pretty good (see the > tabular, even if it's in French, should be self-explanatory: > http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/media_center). I think the lack of browser > support compared to the very popular mythtv is ok on a desktop, so > fine (not on a media cen

Re: Review of featured applications

2010-03-01 Thread Robert Ancell
On 01/03/10 18:48, Bryce Harrington wrote: > On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 06:04:13PM +1100, Robert Ancell wrote: > >> The criteria from the specification are: >> >> * Is available in main or universe >> > Quick question, for applications that make the featured apps list, do > they need to

Re: Review of featured applications

2010-03-01 Thread Robert Ancell
>>> I also wanted to pick one FPS but they all seemed difficult to use. The >>> problems seemed to be similar: >>> >>> Huge downloads >>> Opening and choosing first menu (e.g. "single player") often didn't work, >>> there were no bots >>> Very slow load times >>> >> Right, from my researc

Re: Review of featured applications

2010-03-01 Thread Luca Falavigna
Il giorno Mon, 1 Mar 2010 14:02:20 +0100 Didier Roche ha scritto: > - if you put some kind of gnome-do there for fast keyboard access, I > think their should be some complaints about "why gnome-do and not a > dock?". So we should maybe include on of both kind or none? Also, kupfer deserves a ment

Re: Review of featured applications

2010-03-01 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Mo, Mär 01, 2010 at 14:22:24 (CET), Rick Spencer wrote: >> Right, from my research (1 year and half ago), we don't have any FPS >> with bots by default. We should download some bots and install them >> manually we don't find the Featured goal. There are a lot of very good >> multiplayer FPS (e

Re: Review of featured applications

2010-03-01 Thread Rick Spencer
On Mon, 2010-03-01 at 14:02 +0100, Didier Roche wrote: > On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Robert Ancell > wrote: > > > > I wanted to add one IDE to the list but it was very hard to choose one. It > > seemed the best candidates were monodevelop, geany, eclipse and anjuta > > (omitting Eclipse beca

Re: Review of featured applications

2010-03-01 Thread Didier Roche
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Robert Ancell wrote: > > These applications seemed really good candidates: > > cheese (photobooth) > homebank (banking) > stellarium (planetarium) > gnome-do (fast keyboard based access) > deja-dup (backup) > eclipse (IDE) > gimp (bitmap graphics) > inkscape (vector

Re: Review of featured applications

2010-02-28 Thread Bryce Harrington
On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 06:04:13PM +1100, Robert Ancell wrote: > The criteria from the specification are: > >* Is available in main or universe Quick question, for applications that make the featured apps list, do they need to get promoted to main? Bryce -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubun

Review of featured applications

2010-02-28 Thread Robert Ancell
I have installed all the featured applications (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Lucid/FeaturedApps) and reviewed them for user experience. The criteria from the specification are: * Is available in main or universe * Is a GUI app * Does not replace a default application * Does