Re: Proposal: Let's drop i386

On 5/12/18 5:31 PM, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > HDDs consume more energy than SSDs; [...] Unless it's NVMe. > similarly newer (faster clock/dynamicly clocked, and operating at a lower > voltage / amps) RAM > consume less energy. Didn't RAM power consumption go up with frequency and especially

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Re: Proposal: Let's drop i386

I don't know if we should base our decisions off of what microsoft does, but I would expect ubuntu to support 32 bit at least as long as windows does. I would also expect the 32 bit lubuntu and minimal installers to stick around longer than the other flavors/spins. I couldn't find a

Re: Proposal: Let's drop i386

>On 11 May 2018 at 16:32, Fiedler Roman wrote: >> b) Those, who do not want to consume more resources due to ethical >> considerations (that's the one for me): how many people could fed or >> how much CO2 prevented, if all systems were some percent smaller on >> disk/RAM,

Re: Proposal: Let's drop i386

On 11 May 2018 at 16:32, Fiedler Roman wrote: > > > Von: ubuntu-devel [mailto:ubuntu-devel-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] Im > > > > Hello, > > > > Less and less non-amd64-compatible i386 hardware is available for > > consumers to buy today from anything but computer part

Re: Proposal: Let's drop i386

On 11 May 2018 at 16:32, Fiedler Roman wrote: > > > Von: ubuntu-devel [mailto:ubuntu-devel-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] Im > > > > Hello, > > > > Less and less non-amd64-compatible i386 hardware is available for > > consumers to buy today from anything but computer part

Re: Proposal: Let's drop i386

Hi Nrbtx et al, On 9 May 2018 at 21:59, Nrbrtx wrote: > Dear Bryan and all! > > Please do not forget about some special hardware configurations such as > Thin Clients. > For example we use about 50 machines as Fat LTSP clients with Intel > Celeron and Intel Atom. Their RAM is

Re: Ubiquity NG - was Re: ubiquity migrated to git

On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 4:29 AM Bryan Quigley wrote: > On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 7:31 PM, Simon Quigley wrote: >> Hello Mark, >> On 05/05/2018 01:15 AM, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: >> >> > First, we have Curtin, which knows how to take a

Re: Proposal: Let's drop i386

I definitely should have included more links to previous discussions - including this survey I did 4 years ago - https://bryanquigley.com/posts /crazy-ideas/32-bit-usage-survey-results.html. Is it ethical to continue to support a platform that we may not be able to provide meaningful security

Re: Proposal: Let's drop i386

Nice catch! I just looked for error stack traces that matched between the i386 version and amd64 and then compared them. I only removed duplicates that we're in the flavors I was comparing - my mistake. Xubuntu error (thunar) - 0.10 - thunar also included in Ubuntu studio The general process

Re: Proposal: Let's drop i386

On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 11:05:09PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > I do believe that the real question before us is that of dropping the > architectures from the archive. > > However, please note that as of 18.04, i386 and armhf are still supported > architectures by Canonical for Ubuntu Core.

Re: Ubiquity NG - was Re: ubiquity migrated to git

On 09.05.2018 22:29, Bryan Quigley wrote: Additionally, we'd have to bring Chromium up to the requirements (snappy edition) for Main. (which I wouldn't mind, but doesn't make sense just for this) Maybe use Servo or Surf instead ? --mtx -- Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult Free software and

Re: Deprecation notice for mail-stack-delivery (dovecot) - planned to be dropped in 18.10

I installed by hand, but am very interested in upping the number of people using self-hosted email, so interested in helping with that. -serge Quoting Phillip Susi (ps...@ubuntu.com): > Last year I got fed up with gmail randomly deleting one of the > "duplicate" messages I would get via a

AW: Proposal: Let's drop i386

> Von: ubuntu-devel [mailto:ubuntu-devel-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] Im > > Hello, > > Less and less non-amd64-compatible i386 hardware is available for > consumers to buy today from anything but computer part recycling centers. > The last of these machines were manufactured over a decade ago, and >

Re: Ubiquity NG - was Re: ubiquity migrated to git

Is there a reason why we can't use Calamares or the new Elementary/Pop!_OS installer for the desktop and leave MASS/Curtin for the server and such? On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 5:29 AM Bryan Quigley wrote: > > > On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 7:31 PM, Simon Quigley