Re: Styles of Packaging (was: Deprecating the wiki-based, Packaging Guide)

2012-12-20 Thread Bouchard Louis
Hi, Le 20/12/2012 13:00, ubuntu-devel-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com a écrit : Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 11:16:49 -0500 From: Barry Warsaw ba...@ubuntu.com To: ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: Styles of Packaging (was: Deprecating the wiki-based Packaging Guide) Message-ID

Re: Styles of Packaging (was: Deprecating the wiki-based Packaging Guide)

2012-12-19 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Dec 18, 2012, at 06:05 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: UDD poses a different set of problems. I'm not sure how relevant it is to the upstream developer who just wants to package their software; at the very least, I think the developer docs should explicitly deal with the possibility that the

Re: Styles of Packaging

2012-12-18 Thread Mike Carifio
On 12/18/2012 01:16 AM, Emmet Hikory wrote: Mike Carifio wrote: On 12/17/2012 08:11 PM, Emmet Hikory wrote: Where this is understandably annoying for the application developer is that the recommendation is subject to change over time, as newer tools are developed and adopted: we tend to

Re: Styles of Packaging

2012-12-18 Thread Emmet Hikory
Mike Carifio wrote: I would opine that many application developers are more than annoyed, they're lost. So presenting them with all the various variants and then asking them to select the right one based on criteria they neither appreciate nor care about pretty well assures that many will

Re: Styles of Packaging

2012-12-18 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On 19/12/2012 00:30, Barry Warsaw wrote: I'm positive I'm not typical, but I personally find Ubuntu development so much more pleasant than Debian development that I'll use the Debian branches on Launchpad for 90% of my on Debian work. It's only at the last mile that I'll switch over to e.g.

Re: Styles of Packaging (was: Deprecating the wiki-based Packaging Guide)

2012-12-18 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 03:16:13PM +0900, Emmet Hikory wrote: While it may appear that way at first glance, this is very much an intentional consequence of policy-based packaging, which Ubuntu inherits from Debian. By having packaging judged against policy, rather than against some

Re: Styles of Packaging (was: Deprecating the wiki-based Packaging Guide)

2012-12-18 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 02:08:04AM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: 1. While there are sponsors that prefer branches over debdiffs/source packages uploaded somewhere, I don't know of any that will only sponsor branches. The reverse is not true. There are developers that don't do UDD

Re: Styles of Packaging (was: Deprecating the wiki-based Packaging Guide)

2012-12-18 Thread Scott Kitterman
Steve Langasek steve.langa...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 02:08:04AM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: 1. While there are sponsors that prefer branches over debdiffs/source packages uploaded somewhere, I don't know of any that will only sponsor branches. The reverse is not true.

Re: Styles of Packaging (was: Deprecating the wiki-based Packaging Guide)

2012-12-18 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 09:19:31PM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: Steve Langasek steve.langa...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 02:08:04AM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: 1. While there are sponsors that prefer branches over debdiffs/source packages uploaded somewhere, I don't know

Re: Styles of Packaging (was: Deprecating the wiki-based Packaging Guide)

2012-12-17 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, December 18, 2012 03:16:13 PM Emmet Hikory wrote: There is definitely a set of tools that are currently the most popular in the Debian archive, and these integrate well with a set of tools being developed under the Ubuntu Distributed Development moniker, which combination may