regular fsck runs are too disturbing

2007-10-10 Thread mike corn
<< For this to be true, you need another assumption: All hardware is absolutely reliable which just is not the case. ... Windows runs on the same "potentially flakey" hardware that Linux does, and it doesn't routinely perform a chkdsk. Most people are quite happy with this and only need to chk

Re: Restricted tab-completion is annoying

2007-10-10 Thread Aaron C. de Bruyn
Ok--I'm sorry, but none of what you said made any sense to me. > I don't see the point why filenames needs to be tab-completed on default, it > does it when it's necessary. I'm asking why tab-completion changed from allowing tab-completion of EVERY file to being restricted. It sounds like you ar

Re: Restricted tab-completion is annoying

2007-10-10 Thread Matt Price
On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 08:20 +0800, Joel Bryan Juliano wrote: > On 10/11/07, Aaron C. de Bruyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > Today a website generated a PDF file for me automatically and > firefox popped up and asked if I wanted to download it. I hit > 'OK' and it saved 'g

Re: regular fsck runs are too disturbing

2007-10-10 Thread Jan Claeys
Op woensdag 10-10-2007 om 12:19 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Matthew East: > Me too. This whole fsck business is a really ugly hole in the Ubuntu > experience; first the fact that it can't be aborted, Doesn't Ctrl-C work? (Not really discoverable for new or inexperienced users of course.) > and

Re: Restricted tab-completion is annoying

2007-10-10 Thread Joel Bryan Juliano
On 10/11/07, Aaron C. de Bruyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Today a website generated a PDF file for me automatically and firefox > popped up and asked if I wanted to download it. I hit 'OK' and it saved ' > genpdf.asp' into my downloads folder. I was surprised to find bash > wouldn't tab-compl

Re: regular fsck runs are too disturbing

2007-10-10 Thread Onno Benschop
On 11/10/07 02:36, Phillip Susi wrote: > When was the last time you had a fsck find and fix errors? I have two > machines that have been running reiserfs for 2 years now and have never > had to fsck, and on the rare occasion that I am bored and feel like > forcing one, nothing wrong is found. >

Restricted tab-completion is annoying

2007-10-10 Thread Aaron C. de Bruyn
Today a website generated a PDF file for me automatically and firefox popped up and asked if I wanted to download it. I hit 'OK' and it saved 'genpdf.asp' into my downloads folder. I was surprised to find bash wouldn't tab-complete the filename. Apparently there is new (newer than dapper) bas

Re: regular fsck runs are too disturbing

2007-10-10 Thread John Dong
The main roadblock in my mind is that few people use LVM as the main installer doesn't support it. Also, I have no idea how sane this idea is in terms of the abilities of ext3. It's an interesting solution but probably too insane to ship in a distro. Something like autofsck is easier/less risky t

Re: regular fsck runs are too disturbing

2007-10-10 Thread Bryan Haskins
I completely like the LVM idea, as I was saying on IRC a bit ago, that would really be an elegant system. LVM up root, and whatever other chosen disks, and safely check that in the background (possibly a nice notification icon even?) and pop up a ping box when an error is found (the level of er

Re: regular fsck runs are too disturbing - autofsck

2007-10-10 Thread Sam Tygier
Matthew East wrote: > I understand that there are technical issues behind this which I don't > have the knowledge to address properly, but the target must absolutely > be to solve this problem, rather than make excuses from it. > > Has someone created a specification about the issue? > https://w

Re: regular fsck runs are too disturbing

2007-10-10 Thread Phillip Susi
John Dong wrote: > I agree with everyone who says that the current fsck experience is a blemish > to Ubuntu's general user-friendliness, and also that we should not be entirely > removing the regular fsck as it catches hardware irregularities and potential > software bugs with ext3. When was the l

Re: regular fsck runs are too disturbing

2007-10-10 Thread John Dong
A partial check doesn't make sense with the current fsck tools AFAIK. We should do a full filesystem check if anything, and if a user decides to abort it, it's his choice. There should be a graphical or otherwise easily accessible way of re-touching the /forcefsck flag so that users can choose whi

cn.archive.ubuntu.com severely outdated

2007-10-10 Thread Cheng
Hi, I am the mirror administrator of cn.archive.ubuntu.com from Shanghai Linux User Group. Below is the email conversation between us and it can be a bit follow-up on wenzhuo's post. Regarding the upstream mirror source, we found planetmirror which is located in Australia is a quite a good sourc

Re: regular fsck runs are too disturbing

2007-10-10 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
On 10/10/2007 Christof Krüger wrote: > However, I strongly agree that the user should be given the option to > abort the scan. This also implies that the user is being informed on the > splash screen first and that he knows what is actually about to happen. Problem is that users will just skip the

Re: regular fsck runs are too disturbing

2007-10-10 Thread Matthew East
On 10/10/2007, Christof Krüger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However, I strongly agree that the user should be given the option to > abort the scan. Me too. This whole fsck business is a really ugly hole in the Ubuntu experience; first the fact that it can't be aborted, and secondly the fact that i

Re: regular fsck runs are too disturbing

2007-10-10 Thread Christof Krüger
On Wed, 2007-10-10 at 12:02 +0200, mike corn wrote: > How about running fsck only when the file system was not properly > unmounted the last time it was online? (crash, power fail) > > Assuming the file system is robust and bug-free, this should be > adequate. For this to be true, you need ano

Re: regular fsck runs are too disturbing

2007-10-10 Thread mike corn
How about running fsck only when the file system was not properly unmounted the last time it was online? (crash, power fail) Assuming the file system is robust and bug-free, this should be adequate. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or

Re: cn.archive.ubuntu.com severely outdated

2007-10-10 Thread Arne Goetje
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Emmet Hikory wrote: > On 10/10/07, Wenzhuo Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Perhaps the country level CNAMEs should resolve to archive.ubuntu.com when >> the mirrors are more than one day behind. > > This is rarely best. In the common case, an