Re: apt-cacher in main

2007-11-15 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 01:05:01PM +0100, Oliver Grawert wrote: > in edubuntu we face the fact that governments and schools start rolling > out really huge deployments in the near future (see macedonia with a > total of 185000 systems for example), if you maintain 5000 seats in one > school or 1000

Re: apt-cacher in main + apt-zeroconf

2007-11-15 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 12:53:14PM -0500, Fabian Rodriguez wrote: > If this was actually checked against a local web of trust (like > OpenPGP or Gaim-OTR keys or else) it may become interesting. But who > uses that "safely" ? :) All packages downloaded by APT are authenticated using PGP keys provi

Re: apt-cacher in main

2007-11-15 Thread Fabian Rodriguez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Kevin Fries wrote: > I am not sure it needs to be moved. But, what would be totally cool > is if the installer scanned the local network on install and > configured apt-cacher in sources.list instead of the normal repos > by default when if finds

Re: Our best foot forward

2007-11-15 Thread Onno Benschop
On 15/11/07 22:55, Patrick wrote: > Has Canonical carried out studies with new users of different technical > abilities? This might be a good thing to do. After a Newbie installs > Ubuntu where do they go first? How is their experience in the first > hour. To woe Windows users I think the first

Re: apt-cacher in main + apt-zeroconf

2007-11-15 Thread Sam Tygier
Fabian Rodriguez wrote: > apt-zeroconf is actually a replacement for apt-cacher, not a > complement to it, according to its site. I think we already know the > answer to "enabled by default" autodiscovery / other networking > services. I would have some trust issues using apt-zeroconf, but > that's

Re: apt-cacher in main + apt-zeroconf

2007-11-15 Thread Fabian Rodriguez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Sam Tygier wrote: > it looks like they have got the security side covered. > > "Now, one might think this could potentially pose a security threat > as everyone can offer and distribute debs without any > authentication whatsoever. This is not th

Re: apt-cacher in main

2007-11-15 Thread Fabian Rodriguez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Kevin Fries wrote: > [...] Without apt-cacher you either need to allow that machine > access to the Internet, or do without updates. +1 for that, I haven't used apt-cacher in that context but it's an important use case. I'll make sure it makes it

Re: apt-cacher in main + apt-zeroconf

2007-11-15 Thread Fabian Rodriguez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Sam Tygier wrote: > > could apt-zeroconf[0] be installed and enabled by default. > > "distributed apt-cacher for local networks implemented in Python. > It's called apt-zeroconf since we use avahi for automatically > finding other apt-zeroconf ins

Re: apt-cacher in main

2007-11-15 Thread Kevin Fries
On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 18:27 -0500, Scott Abbey wrote: > I think the point of moving it is so that it receives official support from > Canonical. That way those on paid support contracts can still expect > assistance from Canonical when using the package. Canonical only provides > paid support for

Re: apt-cacher in main + apt-zeroconf

2007-11-15 Thread Sam Tygier
Kevin Fries wrote: > I am not sure it needs to be moved. But, what would be totally cool is > if the installer scanned the local network on install and configured > apt-cacher in sources.list instead of the normal repos by default when > if finds a server. That would be a terrific usability upgrad

Re: apt-cacher in main

2007-11-15 Thread Fabian Rodriguez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Scott Abbey wrote: > [...] > > I think the point of moving it is so that it receives official > support from Canonical. That way those on paid support contracts > can still expect assistance from Canonical when using the package. > Canonical only

Re: Our best foot forward

2007-11-15 Thread Patrick
Hi Martin and list Thanks for your words of encouragement, I needed that. Martin I would love to work with you on what I guess would be an all-in-one helper application. I can program in Python too although my GTK is still weak. I can only contribute about 2-3 hours a week as I am already work

Re: apt-cacher in main

2007-11-15 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Mittwoch, den 14.11.2007, 11:38 -0500 schrieb Fabian Rodriguez: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: RIPEMD160 > > (not sure if this made it so re-sending) it did :) > Hi, > > I'd like to propose moving apt-cacher to main. I haven't done main > inclusion reports before so bear wit

Re: What do I do with disturbing bug reports in Wine about system crashes?

2007-11-15 Thread Reinhard Tartler
Scott Ritchie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > These are clearly not Wine bugs, but it's unclear to me where I should > refile them. Wine's exposing a bug somewhere else (probably the driver > or X), but what should I do? We haven't done that so far, but would that workflow work for you here? -