Re: Bug

2008-08-19 Thread Tim Kersten
Hi Nicolas, Good job in spotting the bug. In order to keep track of all the bugs and their info it is necessary to use a bug tracker. For ubuntu this can be found here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ There you can click the Report a Bug button ( or https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug

Re: Call for testing empathy

2008-08-19 Thread Guillaume Desmottes
Le lundi 18 août 2008 à 11:05 -0500, Mario Limonciello a écrit : Something else that I haven't seen brought up yet is a migration path to empathy. I've seen indications that it uses a purple backend (above), so will all pidgin settings just translate over? It that above indication was

Re: Call for testing empathy

2008-08-19 Thread (``-_-´´) -- Fernando
Olá Scott e a todos. On Monday 18 August 2008 12:08:25 Scott James Remnant wrote: I've made a tweak to the layout of the Empathy chat window. The tabs were filling the entire top of the window, which: If anyone has any particularly strong feelings either way, please let me know - otherwise if

Re: Automatic fsck

2008-08-19 Thread Phillip Susi
Alexander Jones wrote: Because people are talking about snapshotting a FS in a potentially broken state, fscking it in the background---whilst continuing to use it! I've been thinking something like this as well. The whole point of fsck is to find and repair damage BEFORE your attempts to

Re: Bugs introduced in GCC?

2008-08-19 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 6:45 PM, Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 18:18 -0400, Andrew wrote: Are the statements below true? Is the Ubuntu patch really 5 MB? If so, what is it meant to change? The diff of the current gcc in Intrepid ,as found here [1], seems to

Re: Automatic fsck

2008-08-19 Thread Phillip Susi
Matt Zimmerman wrote: One thing that I have not seen in this discussion is the notion that fsck might be modified to run incrementally. That's an interesting idea, though I don't know enough about ext3 to comment on its feasibility. Perhaps something to discuss with upstream? Not possible

Re: Call for testing empathy

2008-08-19 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
2008/8/8 Laurent Bigonville [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello everyone, Empathy[1] will be part of the upcoming GNOME 2.24 desktop. The ubuntu desktop team considers using it instead of Pidgin for intrepid as default IM client. If you are running intrepid, please give empathy a test and report bugs

Re: Call for testing empathy

2008-08-19 Thread Bryan Quigley
I liked the interface slightly more than pidgin's (the away icons rock). But agree, that it might be to quick, Pidgin has a lot of functionality. One that I use (and currently is shipping by default) is off the record messaging. It appears to me that Empathy could eventually replace both Pidgin

Re: Minutes from the Technical Board, 2008-07-15

2008-08-19 Thread Jerry
Agree. For example, autofsck should not run when * laptop is booted by using battery/low battery; * mount time and unmount time are equal; Thanks, Jerry. On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 5:09 AM, Bryce Harrington [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:52:25AM +0100, Matt Zimmerman

Re: Minutes from the Technical Board, 2008-07-15

2008-08-19 Thread Marcos Hernández
Hi everybody! I don't know much about ext filesystems, so please be patient if this suggestion is a little silly. I think that would be best if ubuntu performs fsck only when something out of normal happens (a hard shut down, for instance). I guess that if the system works fine, so it will the

Re: Minutes from the Technical Board, 2008-07-15

2008-08-19 Thread Niels Uiterwijk
I agree with Bryce here, another addition would be, after a large/lots of updates. Niels On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:09 PM, Bryce Harrington [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:52:25AM +0100, Matt Zimmerman wrote: == Filesystem checking / AutoFsck == A suggestion was made

Ruby on Rails support in Intrepid - call for reviewers and cheerleaders

2008-08-19 Thread Neil Wilson
With the Intrepid Feature Freeze deadline fast approaching (August 28th) I thought I'd put out another call for help reviewing the Phusion Passenger package and alterations to the Rubygems package. Without your help reviewing the code, this will not go into Intrepid and Ubuntu will be short of

Re: Ruby on Rails support in Intrepid - call for reviewers and cheerleaders

2008-08-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday 19 August 2008 15:11, Neil Wilson wrote: Rubygems contains 'gem' - the Ruby Package manager. Ruby on Rails is a gem based framework and is completely integrated with the gem package manager. In Intrepid I would expect users to continue to use gem to install Rails and for that to be

Re: Ruby on Rails support in Intrepid - call for reviewers and cheerleaders

2008-08-19 Thread Mathias Gug
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 03:15:15PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Tuesday 19 August 2008 15:11, Neil Wilson wrote: Rubygems contains 'gem' - the Ruby Package manager. Ruby on Rails is a gem based framework and is completely integrated with the gem package manager. In Intrepid I would

Re: Automatic fsck

2008-08-19 Thread Evan
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Phillip Susi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think both of these points are best addressed with a simple, non obnoxious prompt on shutdown to run a fsck before shutting down, and also giving the option to put it off until tomorrow, next week, or never ask me

Re: Automatic fsck

2008-08-19 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 5:23 PM, Evan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Phillip Susi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think both of these points are best addressed with a simple, non obnoxious prompt on shutdown to run a fsck before shutting down, and also giving the option

Re: Minutes from the Technical Board, 2008-07-15

2008-08-19 Thread Andrew Sayers
I think there's an elephant in this room - why are we running fsck at all? a) If it's to detect corruption due to software errors, fsck should be linked up to apport, and reported (semi-)automatically. b) If it's to check for dying hardware[1], it can be disabled for all but the oldest hard

Re: Minutes from the Technical Board, 2008-07-15

2008-08-19 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Andrew Sayers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think there's an elephant in this room - why are we running fsck at all? b) If it's to check for dying hardware[1], it can be disabled for all but the oldest hard drives[2], and even then is better replaced with a

Re: Ruby on Rails support in Intrepid - call for reviewers and cheerleaders

2008-08-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:01:26 -0700 Mathias Gug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 03:15:15PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Tuesday 19 August 2008 15:11, Neil Wilson wrote: Rubygems contains 'gem' - the Ruby Package manager. Ruby on Rails is a gem based framework and is

Re: Minutes from the Technical Board, 2008-07-15

2008-08-19 Thread Onno Benschop
On 20/08/08 05:39, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Andrew Sayers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think there's an elephant in this room - why are we running fsck at all? b) If it's to check for dying hardware[1], it can be disabled for all but the oldest hard

Re: Ruby on Rails support in Intrepid - call for reviewers and cheerleaders

2008-08-19 Thread Mathias Gug
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 05:58:39PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:01:26 -0700 Mathias Gug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 03:15:15PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Tuesday 19 August 2008 15:11, Neil Wilson wrote: Rubygems contains 'gem' - the

Re: Minutes from the Technical Board, 2008-07-15

2008-08-19 Thread Onno Benschop
On 20/08/08 06:43, Onno Benschop wrote: On 20/08/08 05:39, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Andrew Sayers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think there's an elephant in this room - why are we running fsck at all? b) If it's to check for dying hardware[1], it

Re: Ruby on Rails support in Intrepid - call for reviewers and cheerleaders

2008-08-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:46:34 -0700 Mathias Gug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 05:58:39PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:01:26 -0700 Mathias Gug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... The make a parallel with python, the gem command is similar to easy_install.

Re: Ruby on Rails support in Intrepid - call for reviewers and cheerleaders

2008-08-19 Thread Mathias Gug
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 07:28:02PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 05:58:39PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: Which we generally patch into submission when we find it. In Debian/Ubuntu if ezsetup is installing external Python modules it's bug. Do you mean that

Re: Ruby on Rails support in Intrepid - call for reviewers and cheerleaders

2008-08-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday 19 August 2008 19:56, Mathias Gug wrote: On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 07:28:02PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 05:58:39PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: ... Neil's proposal is to improve the gem command (from the libgems-ruby package) so that binaries are

Re: Call for testing empathy

2008-08-19 Thread Duncan Lithgow
On Tue, 2008-08-19 at 11:33 -0400, Bryan Quigley wrote: It appears to me that Empathy could eventually replace both Pidgin and Ekiga. I don't currently use Ekiga, but can anyone tell me how close Empathy is to being comparable? The Ekiga devs who I spoke to said that a.) it's not ready for

Re: Call for testing empathy

2008-08-19 Thread Duncan Lithgow
On Tue, 2008-08-19 at 14:31 +0200, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: I think the project is on the right track. It has some interesting proposals, and in the future, I'm sure it's features will make it a good replacement for Pidgin, but not yet. By all means, promote it to main and make it

Re: Ruby on Rails support in Intrepid - call for reviewers and cheerleaders

2008-08-19 Thread Emmet Hikory
Scott Kitterman wrote: For a legalistic reading of policy, I think there is nothing wrong with that, but how is a typical user of a gem going to know that if they install gem X a library used by gem Y, Z, and package A will be replaced/overridden? As a practical matter I think this declares

libavcodec51 and libavcodec1d package description

2008-08-19 Thread Philip Wyett
Hi, Whilst installing empathy on another intrepid test box. I noticed libavcodec being installed. After an hmmm an mpeg library is there an issue here for inclusion of empathy by default I did some digging. We have two libavcodec packages, libavcodec51 in main and libavcodec1d in universe. A

Re: libavcodec51 and libavcodec1d package description

2008-08-19 Thread Philip Wyett
On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 06:07 +0100, Philip Wyett wrote: Hi, Whilst installing empathy on another intrepid test box. I noticed libavcodec being installed. After an hmmm an mpeg library is there an issue here for inclusion of empathy by default I did some digging. We have two libavcodec

Re: Call for testing empathy

2008-08-19 Thread Adam Petaccia
On Tue, 2008-08-19 at 11:12 +0200, Guillaume Desmottes wrote: Le lundi 18 août 2008 à 11:05 -0500, Mario Limonciello a écrit : Something else that I haven't seen brought up yet is a migration path to empathy. I've seen indications that it uses a purple backend (above), so will all pidgin