On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 22:31:30 + Andrew Sayers
wrote:
>I've written up a blueprint for a potential solution to the c-a-b
>problem. For some reason, Launchpad attaches this blueprint to
>"loco-drupal" no matter what I tell it, so it's available here:
>
>https://blueprints.launchpad.net/loco-dru
Mario,
I'm sorry if I appear to be bitching / whining. That wasn't my intention. If
you would like I can stop posting my thoughts. I didn't intend to cause
problems.
**Your problem, really.
I don't believe so. While the command line is reasonably simple to use
for me, as I have said in o
I've written up a blueprint for a potential solution to the c-a-b
problem. For some reason, Launchpad attaches this blueprint to
"loco-drupal" no matter what I tell it, so it's available here:
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/loco-drupal/+spec/blue-screen-of-life
If someone else would like to tr
Scott James Remnant wrote:
> Sync is *always* better than no readahead at all.
> Parallel is *sometimes* better than no readahead, but in various cases
> is actually _worse_.
> When Parallel is not worse then no readahead, it is better than sync.
>
> Since the out-of-the-box has to work for everyo
Thomas,
Thank you for letting me know what additional information I needed to
provide. I will get it as soon as I have an opportunity. I really appreciate
the help.
As for the whole C-A-B issue... yes, honestly, dude, I wish that I never
had to use C-A-B. But I do. I report bugs when I'm
the i386 version of Ubuntu has some fairly odd characteristics:
- It's i486 compiled, but called i386
- The generic kernel is i586 IIRC, but not PAE
- Because of the above, non-executable pages are executable
I've thought on this, and come up with a rather basic solution:
1. Ship -generic as
Mike Jones wrote:
> It is unreasonable to expect even users who have programing experience to
> use the terminal for honestly much more than occasional scripts. I have
> absolutely no desire to C-A-F#, find the program that is giving me fits, and
> then kill it in the hopes it fixes my issue.
In or
Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
> Remco wrote on 12/02/09 22:33:
>> Every program that hangs but doesn't release grabs is a problem. You
>> could certainly implement some kind of solution to that, but only
>> after that solution is implemented, C-A-B or equivalents should be
>> disabled. Not before.
>
Martin Pitt wrote:
> Thomas Jaeger [2009-02-12 17:16 -0500]:
>> This is not a healthy discussion. We have people claiming that they
>> can't live without C-A-B
>
> Nobody stops them from re-enabling it (to the contrary, there's a new
> tool "dontzap" which makes this very easy). Please keep in mi
I believe Dylan is right that this discussion is no longer productive.
As I said before, it isn't that I personally object to the *zap X*
functionality being unlinked from C-A-B, as it is I object to the *zap X*
functionality having no default access method.
Changing C-A-B to A-S-K provid
On Friday 13 February 2009 16:24, Paul S wrote:
> I've been running jaunty for a couple months and been unable to build
> the alsa driver module. I also tried buiding it from alsa-project source
> package and have the same failure. I had filed a bug against
> alsa-source, but am wondering if it's
On 2009/02/13 08:31 (GMT-0800) Dylan McCall composed:
> SysRQ doesn't work or don't have the key? That's a bug in the kernel.
No SysRQ key is not a kernel bug.
> ... get a new keyboard.
Nice trick for a laptop user.
Oh, and since laptops have been outselling desktops for several years, it
prob
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Remco wrote on 12/02/09 22:33:
>
> Every program that hangs but doesn't release grabs is a problem. You
> could certainly implement some kind of solution to that, but only
> after that solution is implemented, C-A-B or equivalents should be
> disabled
On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 12:53 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 12:46:29 -0500 Mackenzie Morgan
> wrote:
> >On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 08:24 +, Alex Cockell wrote:
> >> Hi folks,
> >>
> >> Speaking as a newish end-user of Ubuntu - please don't remove
> >> Ctrl-Alt-Backspace..
>
> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:30:38 +
> From: Andrew Sayers
> Subject: Re: Fwd: Is disabling ctrl-alt-backspace really such a good
>idea? - no.
> To: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <49954bce.80...@pileofstuff.org>
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On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 12:46:29 -0500 Mackenzie Morgan
wrote:
>On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 08:24 +, Alex Cockell wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Speaking as a newish end-user of Ubuntu - please don't remove
>> Ctrl-Alt-Backspace..
>
>There's one week til feature freeze. Mark's mind is made up. And that'
On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 08:24 +, Alex Cockell wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Speaking as a newish end-user of Ubuntu - please don't remove
> Ctrl-Alt-Backspace..
There's one week til feature freeze. Mark's mind is made up. And that's
basically all that matters.
C-A-B will still exist, but you'll ha
On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 08:15 +, richard.b...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote:
> Examples of aps thatneed to use CAB.
Oh, I know. What about the cases where someone mistakenly believes that
running Frets on Fire will do something *other* than use all of the
resources so your computer can do nothing but
I've been following this discussion, and it seems that some people have
been wanting some poll results. This might be of interest:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1040988
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On 13/02/2009 Dylan McCall wrote:
>
> Too late to set preferences, it's already crashed? Any power user who
> would have used Ctrl Alt Backspace probably had the sense to read the
> Jaunty release notes, which will have said (and I for one will make
> sure they say this) that that key combination
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Dylan McCall wrote:
> This discussion is hardly relevant anymore. I agree the popup
> explaining what the user is about to do would be a nice alternative,
> but this is also a completely adequate solution.
> I'm sure any patches for that alternative would have a go
This discussion is hardly relevant anymore. I agree the popup
explaining what the user is about to do would be a nice alternative,
but this is also a completely adequate solution.
I'm sure any patches for that alternative would have a good, warm and
fulfilling life.
Preferences? Fine; you can set
Mario,
Yes. I would rather lose my work than switch to a virtual console and
spend half an hour finding out which offending program to kill.
I have tried several times to use C-A-F# to get back control of my gnome
session, and have yet to succeed. I rarely, if ever, have completely
unreco
I've been running jaunty for a couple months and been unable to build
the alsa driver module. I also tried buiding it from alsa-project source
package and have the same failure. I had filed a bug against
alsa-source, but am wondering if it's really a kernel (or kernel
headers) bug. Can someon
On 2/13/09 6:16 AM, "Remco" wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 2:53 PM, David Lefty Schlesinger
> wrote:
>> Forking is discouraged when a project is active, but if there's no project,
>> and the author can't be found, it doesn't really seem as though it
>> constitutes a "fork"...
>
> Actually, th
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 2:53 PM, David Lefty Schlesinger
wrote:
> Forking is discouraged when a project is active, but if there's no project,
> and the author can't be found, it doesn't really seem as though it
> constitutes a "fork"...
Actually, this would still be considered a fork, and it woul
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On 2/13/09 2:36 AM, "Ioannis Vranos" wrote:
> Ioannis Vranos wrote:
>> I am writing a GUI front-end for a GPLv2 or later, perl script, I can't
>> find the original author and I need to modify it, so as to work with my
>> front-end.
>>
>> May someone
Disclaimer: I am not developer, just active bug reporter and Ubuntu
tester and advocate :) And I agree with one of previous posters that
this is one of rare places where you actually can speak with Ubuntu
devs about things you like/don't like/would like to see implemented
(another is #ubuntu-devel
Ioannis Vranos wrote:
> Ioannis Vranos wrote:
>> I am writing a GUI front-end for a GPLv2 or later, perl script, I can't
>> find the original author and I need to modify it, so as to work with my
>> front-end.
>>
>> May someone explain when GPL forking can take place and how?
>
>
> To be more p
Ioannis Vranos wrote:
> I am writing a GUI front-end for a GPLv2 or later, perl script, I can't
> find the original author and I need to modify it, so as to work with my
> front-end.
>
> May someone explain when GPL forking can take place and how?
To be more precise I am talking about sysv-rc-
Fergal Daly wrote:
> Anyway, I'm curious, is this really a developer list? I subscribed
> because it was the only way to _contact_ ubuntu developers and I've
> seen lots of people use it for that. So maybe it has more technical
> users than the average but that's not the same thing as being a
> dev
I am writing a GUI front-end for a GPLv2 or later, perl script, I can't
find the original author and I need to modify it, so as to work with my
front-end.
May someone explain when GPL forking can take place and how?
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2009/2/13 Fergal Daly :
> 2009/2/13 Martin Pitt :
>> Thomas Jaeger [2009-02-12 17:16 -0500]:
>>> This is not a healthy discussion. We have people claiming that they
>>> can't live without C-A-B
>>
>> Nobody stops them from re-enabling it (to the contrary, there's a new
>> tool "dontzap" which make
2009/2/13 Martin Pitt :
> Thomas Jaeger [2009-02-12 17:16 -0500]:
>> This is not a healthy discussion. We have people claiming that they
>> can't live without C-A-B
>
> Nobody stops them from re-enabling it (to the contrary, there's a new
> tool "dontzap" which makes this very easy). Please keep i
Thomas Jaeger [2009-02-12 17:16 -0500]:
> This is not a healthy discussion. We have people claiming that they
> can't live without C-A-B
Nobody stops them from re-enabling it (to the contrary, there's a new
tool "dontzap" which makes this very easy). Please keep in mind that
we aren't discussing
On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 20:16 -0500, Mike Jones wrote:
> I have absolutely no desire to C-A-F#, find the program that is giving
> me fits, and then kill it in the hopes it fixes my issue.
You rather lose your complete X session along with all data in open
files than switching to a virtual console an
Hi folks,
Speaking as a newish end-user of Ubuntu - please don't remove
Ctrl-Alt-Backspace..
It does mean that if apps hang badly enough - I can get back into my
machine by bouncing X if ps-aux/grep/kill fails to work. Also - on a
laptop (in my case, a Thinkpad R61i), for Alt/Sysrq/K, this wou
Onno Benschop wrote:
> On 13/02/09 10:41, Charlie Kravetz wrote:
>> Okay, I have been reading this thread from the beginning. It seems like
>> those making the most noise are the same individuals with the knowledge
>> and ability to easily add the ability to use C-A-B back. Why should the
>> thousa
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