Seeing as this isn't dying anytime soon I'll jump in.
Freeing them from what, learning? Granted, the average user isn't
interested in learning but they would be free to reject the opportunity
if they so chose. *That's* freedom.
There is nothing - *nothing* that is stopping anyone from install
On 04/09/2013 04:01 PM, Clint Byrum wrote:
Who removed your choice?
Defaults are simply opinions, not rules. Install your divergent choices,
and be happy.
I have to really emphasize, especially as I was the topic creator, that
I was discussing the possibility of replacing apt-get with aptit
On 04/09/2013 12:57 PM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
It was never meant as a successor.
My mistake.
"endorsed by the community" - not true. I'm a Debian Developer and
Ubuntu Core Dev and I don't endorse either aptitude nor apt-get.
Well, I'm going by the goddamn page that's been there for years
On 04/09/2013 12:53 PM, Riccardo Padovani wrote:
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Brett Cornwall
wrote:
On 04/09/2013 12:40 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
It is in no way a successor to apt.
I did _not say_ it was a successor to apt. Forget I ever brought anything
up.
On Tue, Apr 9
On 04/09/2013 12:54 PM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
Debian endorsements or discouragements for aptitude are not very
relevant for what ubuntu should ship by default on ubuntu desktop.
And apt-get is the default upgrade tool in debian.
[1]
http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/i386/release-notes/c
On 04/09/2013 12:45 PM, Oliver Grawert wrote:
Forget it - forget it. One could have said that all of Ubuntu's software
depended on apt-get from the get-go. But instead I get a barrage of
messages of people just telling me that my thought was stupid.
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On 04/09/2013 12:40 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
It is in no way a successor to apt.
I did _not say_ it was a successor to apt. Forget I ever brought
anything up.
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It is consistent to the dumbing down of our society, which
is not necessarily a bad thing. All modern cars are built for
"idiots" to use. If these same "idiots" think they know how
to use a computer (as they think that they are really drivers)
then there is some overall benefit.
The prices of c
On 04/09/2013 12:19 PM, Andrew Starr-Bochicchio wrote:
This is actually being debated over on debian-devel as we type. So
some piece of text from the Debian FAQ that simply hasn't been updated
in a long time doesn't trump anything.
So the reason for not even considering this as an option is be
On 04/09/2013 12:17 PM, Alexandre Strube wrote:
Why?
Because aptitude is the successor to apt-get, endorsed by the community
that does all the packaging for this OS, is more stable, and has better
dependency handling (indeed, promotes better dependency setting). It
makes no sense to keep a l
On 04/09/2013 11:57 AM, Oliver Grawert wrote:
ranting wont get you anywhere ...
That wasn't my intention.
aptitude is not the recommended tool in ubuntu and never was (at least
in the 9 years i work on ubuntu) ... if it is recommended anywhere that
is definitely wrong and this recommendation s
On 04/09/2013 08:21 AM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
Maybe I was not very explicit - all console applications are "niche"
on the Ubuntu (gui) Desktop. And vice versa, gui-desktop applications
are nice on the Ubuntu (console) Server.
We have aptitude seeded where console is the default interface.
On
In revisions past, Ubuntu's CDs did not have enough space to accommodate
aptitude and apt-get. Now that we have moved on to DVDs I feel it would
be a worthy investment to include aptitude by default, especially since
it is Debian's 'proper' package management tool.
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>the cost of the energy will increase in the coming years (what ever
the primary source is)
>I think that Ubuntu should set the blank screen as default screensaver
for all its flavour (Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Ubuntu netbook edition, ...).
This is a good idea, however it will not save nearly as m
> Ubuntu has been bitten by upgrading to new versions which were rewritten
> in the past and we have learnt, the decision has been made to stay on a
> version which is not perfect but that we know about rather running to
> use a rewrite in the risk of being stucked with something not ready
> qualit
>There's a plan for that.
>Would you put $200 in to the hat if you also >set up the hat and drummed
>up other people's interest?
Am moving back to my hometown in a few weeks, and was thinking of getting in
touch with the local university, see if we could get some of the comp sci kids
interested.
>I'm launching a commercial software business. >I'm targeting the Mac right
>now, but I am >curious to find out how this would be received >by the Linux
>community. I have an ongoing >conversation with a friend of mine about this,
>>and I think that the free and open culture >surrounding Linux
> well developed as-is.
>
>You are kidding, right? It amazes me that someone would say such a
>thing. I can tell you right now that the competition (Apple, and, yes,
>even Microsoft) do not have this attitude. While Ubuntu in its current
>form is a great distribution, it is by no means perfect and
Nowadays Ubuntu has to support 4 releases at a time (8.04,8.10,9.04 and
9.10) and as result of that some issues aren't solved as quickly as it
could. Having a LTS (Desktop and Server) with periodical releases and a
Ubuntu for human beans ;) could be interesting.
Is it still necessary to even have
bit (9.10 Karmic) and it runs on dual cores with
no adjustments necessary.
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> think Google's approach with ChromeOS is something interesting. There
> are not different versions of ChromeOS. If you have ChromeOS installed
> you will always have the latest software installed.
I think google's approach is a terrible idea, as I hate the intrusivness of
aut
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