Re: [strawman] partual support of apps for policykit for Jaunty

2008-11-21 Thread Martin Pitt
Markus Hitter [2008-11-20 17:01 +0100]: Well, if you edit a system file as a normal user, you'd have to provide the password, don't you? That's like vi vs. sudo vi. Right, but sudo always times out quickly, whereas PK privileges potentially stay forever. Also, sudo is a mechanism to run one

Re: [strawman] partual support of apps for policykit for Jaunty

2008-11-20 Thread Martin Pitt
tacone [2008-11-19 13:56 +0100]: What I've been told is the gedit implementation was *not hard to do*. That sounds overly optimistic to me. In order to teach gedit to edit system files as normal user, you need a PolicyKit protected backend which runs as root (probably D-BUS activated). This

Re: [strawman] partual support of apps for policykit for Jaunty

2008-11-20 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 20.11.2008 um 16:29 schrieb Martin Pitt: There goes the remaining bit of user/admin separation which we have, and we can just as well have anyone work as root in the first place. Well, if you edit a system file as a normal user, you'd have to provide the password, don't you? That's like

Re: [strawman] partual support of apps for policykit for Jaunty

2008-11-19 Thread tacone
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 2:47 AM, Remco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 2:01 AM, tacone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I talked some time ago (1 year) to a gedit developer and he told me that he had a bunch of other things to accomplish things. He wasn't countrary in line of

Re: [strawman] partual support of apps for policykit for Jaunty

2008-11-19 Thread (``-_-´´) -- Fernando
Olá Remco e a todos. On Wednesday 19 November 2008 01:47:15 Remco wrote: But as a temporary fix, Gedit could implement PolicyKit. Not only gedit but every other editor (kate,kedit, etc) -- BUGabundo :o) (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net Linux user #443786GPG key

Re: [strawman] partual support of apps for policykit for Jaunty

2008-11-19 Thread Cody A.W. Somerville
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 10:29 AM, (``-_-´´) -- Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Olá Remco e a todos. On Wednesday 19 November 2008 01:47:15 Remco wrote: But as a temporary fix, Gedit could implement PolicyKit. Not only gedit but every other editor (kate,kedit, etc) This strawman sounds

Re: [strawman] partual support of apps for policykit for Jaunty

2008-11-18 Thread tacone
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 5:31 PM, (``-_-´´) -- Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for the lon subject, but it says it all: This is one of those next-release subjects that keeps coming. Is there any interests in discussing on the UDS and starting patching most used apps (mostly

Re: [strawman] partual support of apps for policykit for Jaunty

2008-11-18 Thread Remco
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 2:01 AM, tacone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I talked some time ago (1 year) to a gedit developer and he told me that he had a bunch of other things to accomplish things. He wasn't countrary in line of principle. It has been mentioned that the best way to fix this is to

[strawman] partual support of apps for policykit for Jaunty

2008-11-17 Thread (``-_-´´) -- Fernando
Sorry for the lon subject, but it says it all: This is one of those next-release subjects that keeps coming. Is there any interests in discussing on the UDS and starting patching most used apps (mostly editors) so that when required they escalate privileges and ask the user (if s/he is on