Dale Amon a...@vnl.com writes:
snip/
You will always know that if you write to screen coordinate 0,0, it
will be visible. Anything beyond that is an unknown.
I.e. backwards compatibility. Nicely summarized.
In the same vein:
- http://www.snopes.com/history/american/gauge.asp
-
On Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 07:01:47AM +0200, David Klasinc wrote:
I can tell you the historical reasons. All windowing systems
began with their coordinate systems with 0,0 in the upper left
because that is where the scan lines begin. Lines are written
from left to right, top to bottom.
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 12:26:36PM -0600, Vernon Cole wrote:
Then someone in Palo Alto hooked a mouse to a glass teletype, and the world
changed again.
But the cursor still runs left to right, top to bottom.
The Parc group came along long after the days of the Infoton's
and Beehives that
On Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 07:01:47AM +0200, David Klasinc wrote:
I can tell you the historical reasons. All windowing systems
began with their coordinate systems with 0,0 in the upper left
because that is where the scan lines begin. Lines are written
from left to right, top to bottom.
Why the
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net wrote:
Sadly obvious. If you've not studiously watched people over 50 or 80 try to
use a computer you should. Then you should be able to discover some
important realities about UI usability.
I would like to emphasise this.
On 10/08/12 22:00, ubuntu-devel-discuss-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com wrote:
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 18:04:12 +0200
From: Davyd McColl dav...@gmail.com
Finally, the first piece of unbiased, non-inflammatory, useful content on
this entire thread.
Why designers seem to consider it their duty to force
Am 08.08.2012 17:01, schrieb John Moser:
Put your mouse pointer in the middle of the screen.
Which resembles in most cases the starting point of the mouse pointer
at the beginning of a session.
Where does the pointer end up?
At the end of a session it ends up where the logout button is
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 1:52 PM, John Moser john.r.mo...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Jordon Bedwell jor...@envygeeks.com wrote:
It has a lot of bearing for people. Proper usability testing would have
pointed that out, and Canonicals decision not to allow the toolbar to be
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 3:12 PM, John Moser john.r.mo...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Phillip Susi ps...@ubuntu.com wrote:
On 8/8/2012 11:01 AM, John Moser wrote:
Put your mouse pointer in the middle of the
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 1:52 PM, John Moser john.r.mo...@gmail.com wrote:
And Apple with MacOSX, which Unity mimics.
The default OS X Dock position is at the bottom of the screen and the
Dock can be moved to the left or to the
Em 08-08-2012 12:01, John Moser escreveu:
Why do UI designers insist on designing interfaces for left handed people?
I'm late to the discussion but would like to give my two cents.
There seems to be a fundamental flaw in the main argument of this
thread: it considers what happens when you
Can we really not just making this an option? Instead of arguing against
it? Make controversial stuff like this dynamic. This is exactly what
Android does to keep its masses happy from version to version.
I don't think anyone needs to be forced to deal with something if it
doesn't work for them
On 2012/08/09 10:37 (GMT-0300) Conscious User composed:
So the point only seems mostly relevant in two situations: when the
person has just arrived on the computer and when the person was
typing. The first case does not seem to be statistically significant.
The second is valid, but prioritizing
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net wrote:
On 2012/08/09 10:37 (GMT-0300) Conscious User composed:
So the point only seems mostly relevant in two situations: when the
person has just arrived on the computer and when the person was
typing. The first case does
Em 09-08-2012 11:30, Felix Miata escreveu:
Dolts make that argument. People shop and bank online, and fill out
other web forms as well. No small number create email rather than just
reading it or re-forwarding jokes and pr0n forwarded to themselves.
Some even use them for business and run
On 08/09/2012 10:08 AM, Conscious User wrote:
(2) when the hands return from the keyboard to the mouse,
they frequently do it to access GUI elements that are usually
on the left in most DEs.
This could be wishful thinking, the address bar extends across the
screen so you are assuming they
Put your mouse pointer in the middle of the screen.
Put your mouse somewhere you can grab it.
Now reach out and grab the mouse.
Where does the pointer end up?
If it winds up in the top right of your screen, it seems you're right
handed. Your arm just goes that way, and your wrist straightens
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On 8/8/2012 11:01 AM, John Moser wrote:
Put your mouse pointer in the middle of the screen.
Put your mouse somewhere you can grab it.
Now reach out and grab the mouse.
Where does the pointer end up?
It ends up in the middle of the screen;
On 2012/08/08 11:25 (GMT-0400) Phillip Susi composed:
On 8/8/2012 11:01 AM, John Moser wrote:
Put your mouse pointer in the middle of the screen.
Put your mouse somewhere you can grab it.
Now reach out and grab the mouse.
Where does the pointer end up?
It ends up in the
If this conversation is to be had, can we take it in a direction that
isn't a flame war?
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net wrote:
On 2012/08/08 11:25 (GMT-0400) Phillip Susi composed:
On 8/8/2012 11:01 AM, John Moser wrote:
Put your mouse pointer in the
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On 8/8/2012 11:43 AM, Felix Miata wrote:
You're under 40, right? Under 30 too? 20?
33 actually, though I don't see what that has to do with the price of
tea in China.
We all must navigate to a clicking point before clicking. You seem
to be
On 08/08/2012 10:25 AM, Phillip Susi wrote:
GNOME SHELL. The thing you have to hit to do anything is in the
top left corner. Want to log out? That's in the top right,
fastest thing you'll be able to hit ever.
Which hand you prefer to hold the mouse with has no bearing on how
fast you can
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On 8/8/2012 1:15 PM, Jordon Bedwell wrote:
It has a lot of bearing for people. Proper usability testing would
have pointed that out, and Canonicals decision not to allow the
toolbar to be on the right if users wanted is completely ignorant,
more
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Jordon Bedwell jor...@envygeeks.com wrote:
It has a lot of bearing for people. Proper usability testing would have
pointed that out, and Canonicals decision not to allow the toolbar to be
on the right if users wanted is completely ignorant, more ignorant then
On 08/08/2012 12:34 PM, Phillip Susi wrote:
If you actually explained how it has any bearing, rather than going on
a useless rant, your message might have some value to this list.
Speaking of useless. And because critiscm is ranting... oh yeah that is
usually the go to word for people now
On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 01:52:45PM -0400, John Moser wrote:
I hate Unity but I think I'd have trouble making a decent argument,
given the above. Really I just want to know why EVERYTHING except
Windows (which doesn't do anything useful in the first place) puts the
useful stuff in the top left
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On 8/8/2012 2:11 PM, Jordon Bedwell wrote:
Speaking of useless. And because critiscm is ranting... oh yeah
that is usually the go to word for people now everything is either
a rant or a troll now days. Don't expect me to throw on the
training
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Dale Amon a...@vnl.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 01:52:45PM -0400, John Moser wrote:
I hate Unity but I think I'd have trouble making a decent argument,
given the above. Really I just want to know why EVERYTHING except
Windows (which doesn't do anything
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Phillip Susi ps...@ubuntu.com wrote:
On 8/8/2012 11:01 AM, John Moser wrote:
Put your mouse pointer in the middle of the screen.
Put your mouse somewhere you can grab it.
Now reach out and grab the mouse.
Where does the pointer end up?
It ends up in the
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Phillip Susi ps...@ubuntu.com wrote:
On 8/8/2012 11:01 AM, John Moser wrote:
Put your mouse pointer in the middle of the screen.
Put your mouse somewhere you can grab it.
Now reach out and grab
On 08/08/2012 01:27 PM, Phillip Susi wrote:
Constructive criticism identifies a problem, explains why it is a
problem, and suggests what can be done to fix it. Complaining about
what was done in the past, and how it was done, often with little
basis in reality, is ranting. See the
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On 8/8/2012 2:35 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
Sadly obvious. If you've not studiously watched people over 50 or
80 try to use a computer you should. Then you should be able to
discover some important realities about UI usability.
I have watched people
Am Mittwoch, den 08.08.2012, 15:29 -0500 schrieb Jordon Bedwell:
On 08/08/2012 01:27 PM, Phillip Susi wrote:
Constructive criticism identifies a problem, explains why it is a
problem, and suggests what can be done to fix it. Complaining about
what was done in the past, and how it was done,
On 2012/08/08 16:56 (GMT-0400) Phillip Susi composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
If you've not studiously watched people over 50 or
80 try to use a computer you should. Then you should be able to
discover some important realities about UI usability.
I have watched people that age use a
Perhaps you could, instead of resorting to offense, show, by
numbers/video/anything why you want something changed.
Seriously.
Most people here are quite protective of what they have, but no one is
stupid. Prove yourself right, and the world will go with you.
The first example was very
On Wednesday, August 08, 2012 02:35:00 PM Felix Miata wrote:
On 2012/08/08 12:16 (GMT-0400) Phillip Susi composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
You're under 40, right? Under 30 too? 20?
33 actually, though I don't see what that has to do with the price of
tea in China.
Sadly obvious. If
Le 09/08/2012 00:21, Alexandre Strube a écrit :
Perhaps you could, instead of resorting to offense, show, by
numbers/video/anything why you want something changed.
Seriously.
Most people here are quite protective of what they have, but no one is
stupid. Prove yourself right, and the world
On 08/08/12 23:49, Scott Kitterman wrote:
On Wednesday, August 08, 2012 02:35:00 PM Felix Miata wrote:
On 2012/08/08 12:16 (GMT-0400) Phillip Susi composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
You're under 40, right? Under 30 too? 20?
33 actually, though I don't see what that has to do with the price of
On 08/08/2012 07:08 PM, decle...@nuxwin.com wrote:
Please,
You are not happy with Unity? So, I recommend you to simply move back to
gnome or any other UI of your choice, and then set up your launcher
where and as you want but please, stop to scare/annoy all Ubuntu
developers! You do not
On 08/08/2012 08:15 PM, Dale Amon wrote:
On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 01:52:45PM -0400, John Moser wrote:
I hate Unity but I think I'd have trouble making a decent argument,
given the above. Really I just want to know why EVERYTHING except
Windows (which doesn't do anything useful in the first
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