Am 25.05.2009 um 03:46 schrieb Christopher James Halse Rogers:
Supporting package downgrades means
supporting package downgrades in general, and this would require that
package maintainers write back-conversion utilities where necessary.
... or to make a copy of the original settings just
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 11:12 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote:
That is not the case with OpenSolaris based ZFS root capable
installations. While the whole disk maybe taken up by a zfs pool, the
installation will create three at least zfs filesystems. ROOT/,
ROOT/opt, export, and export/home
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 07:58 +0200, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote:
Il giorno lun, 25/05/2009 alle 02.09 +0200, Markus Hitter ha scritto:
Craft a system where people can switch back and forth between
different package versions. This update broke foo? - Report a bug
and switch foo back to the
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Christopher James Halse Rogers
r...@ubuntu.com wrote:
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 11:12 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote:
That is not the case with OpenSolaris based ZFS root capable
installations. While the whole disk maybe taken up by a zfs pool, the
installation will
Christopher James Halse Rogers wrote:
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 11:12 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote:
That is not the case with OpenSolaris based ZFS root capable
installations. While the whole disk maybe taken up by a zfs pool, the
installation will create three at least zfs filesystems.
Alternatively, replace Evolution with MySQL or such.
This is what I understand to be the hard problem in *supporting* package
downgrades.
Ah, but this is no longer 'roll back' relevant. No fancy zapped file
system will help there.
/me thinking of fresh new install
Jan Claeys wrote:
A lot of people run unstable during alpha beta, but many do it in a VM
or on an old spare system. That doesn't help find regressions that are
hardware-related, of course, and in general those systems might not see
the same sort of use that people's main computers see.
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 13:24 +0200, Remco wrote:
...
Downgrade
conversion is probably not feasible for any but the most popular
packages.
I completely agree with your message. Of course, expecting every package
to provide a downgrade converter is unrealistic. On the other hand, how
often do
On 25/05/09 21:01, Andrew Sayers wrote:
Jan Claeys wrote:
A lot of people run unstable during alpha beta, but many do it in a VM
or on an old spare system. That doesn't help find regressions that are
hardware-related, of course, and in general those systems might not see
the same sort
Op donderdag 14-05-2009 om 09:46 uur [tijdzone -0400], schreef Mackenzie
Morgan:
I wonder what percent of Ubuntu users run unstable during alpha. I
recall hearing that something like 70% of Debian users run Sid. I'm
sure it's not that high, but is there any way we can find out what it
is?
2009/5/25 Markus Hitter m...@jump-ing.de:
Am 25.05.2009 um 00:01 schrieb Jan Claeys:
And to be honest, I don't see how we can make more people use alpha
versions on their I need this for work system...
Craft a system where people can switch back and forth between
different package
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 03:03 +0100, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
2009/5/25 Christopher James Halse Rogers r...@ubuntu.com:
Having some sort of roll back to previous package version button might
be a nice idea, though it would need to be designed in such a way that
made it clear there was no
On 15/05/09 23:27, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote:
Il giorno ven, 15/05/2009 alle 16.34 +0200, Markus Hitter ha scritto:
As popularity increases, more vendors will attempt to provide
drivers
at launch dates of new hardware. For now it's a reasonable strategy
to buy hardware which is at least
On 14/05/09 19:57, Markus Hitter wrote:
Am 14.05.2009 um 13:16 schrieb Vincenzo Ciancia:
If every case can be argued to be uncommon, why worrying at all with
fixing bugs? No bug affects all users.
Good point. Having no common case means bugs have to be taken
seriously independent
Am 15.05.2009 um 11:17 schrieb Onno Benschop:
There are days when I wonder if Linux will ever get ahead of the
curve.
As popularity increases, expectations mount, bug reports increase,
noise
level goes up, work-load goes up, dissatisfaction goes up, morale
drops,
momentum stalls,
On Friday 15 May 2009 11:27:27 am Vincenzo Ciancia wrote:
I have an external network card,
bought upon frustration after iwl3945 _replaced_ ipw3945, breaking it
with my home router, and nobody in ubuntu cared to consider forward port
of the drivers.
It became incompatible with the router? I
Il giorno ven, 15/05/2009 alle 12.56 -0400, Mackenzie Morgan ha scritto:
It became incompatible with the router? I didn't think that was
possiblethough it is true that iwl3945 had some growing pains. I
found
that a Broadcom-based laptop I had had about double the range the
iwl3945
Vincenzo Ciancia wrote:
...
I see that when bad things about ubuntu are pointed out, typically you
only get defensive answers by users. They all seem not to understand
that, at least in my case, I usually *do* defend ubuntu against too easy
critics, just like you. But if the problem exists,
Il giorno gio, 14/05/2009 alle 02.47 +0100, Dmitrijs Ledkovs ha scritto:
User-defined commands - Tick;
RefTex - bibliography completion - Tick
preview-latex - Why do I need it when I have auto-refresh of Xdvi
But ok =D
Please let us stop this. I know emacs. 10 years ago I was a
Il giorno gio, 14/05/2009 alle 21.26 +0900, Emmet Hikory ha scritto:
Vincenzo Ciancia wrote:
(and sometimes different
priorities for the same package: seeking new features until personal use
cases are addressed, and then wanting the package to be stable from that
point forward).
Very good
Regressions occur in Ubuntu releases. As mentioned elsewhere, this is
to be expected, and may be for the best. But if you've spent 6 months
getting Intrepid just how you like it, starting over again with Jaunty
can be a pain.
So how about we offer the user the opportunity to `cp -l /bin /etc
On Thursday 14 May 2009 9:07:25 am Vincenzo Ciancia wrote:
I became involved with the developement and then gave up, when I
recognised that ubuntu needed manpower.
More volunteers are needed, so I'll stop volunteering...what?
I may decide to get back to contributing patches at least in the
Il giorno gio, 14/05/2009 alle 09.54 -0400, Mackenzie Morgan ha scritto:
I became involved with the developement and then gave up, when I
recognised that ubuntu needed manpower.
More volunteers are needed, so I'll stop volunteering...what?
Just a badly constructed sentence: I
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 7:55 AM, John McCabe-Dansted gma...@gmail.com wrote:
AFAICT Amarok didn't just have a couple of annoying bugs, it was never
really ready for widespread use. According to Jeff Mitchel We've
maintained that until 2.1, most users should stick with 1.4.
Unfortunately, just
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Vincenzo Ciancia cian...@di.unipi.it wrote:
I hope this will not sound like a complaint.
It does.
The problem
is there, and it's grave.
Grave for whom? For you? For what common use cases? These are things
that are factors to consider when affecting an entire
On Wednesday 13 May 2009 2:39:16 pm Daniel Chen wrote:
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Vincenzo Ciancia cian...@di.unipi.it
wrote:
What is it doing there in a stable release? This program has not been
tested. It is not stable. People does not like it yet.
Are you seriously saying that
Il giorno gio, 14/05/2009 alle 00.11 +0100, Dmitrijs Ledkovs ha scritto:
Lack of Decent Latex Support?
I've switched to ubuntu because of it. I was sick of realising that
I'm missing this or that latex package. in ubuntu I did default
average (a little bit of extra math fonts)
Il giorno mer, 13/05/2009 alle 17.47 -0400, Daniel T Chen ha scritto:
Ubuntu is a community-driven distribution. Help make it as good as it
can
be. There is no I cannot, only I will not.
I tried for a while (can brag about a couple of xournal and lyx uploads)
but for me the consumed time
Am 13.05.2009 um 20:39 schrieb Daniel Chen:
There has been no lack of calls for testing. Some of these calls have
resulted in timely and effective bug reports. Others, not so much. I
doubt testers' responses have been blithely ignored.
I hope they aren't, of course. Yet, of the about 8 bugs
On Wednesday 13 May 2009 7:11:16 pm Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
Lack of Decent Latex Support?
About editors have you tried AucTeX with Speedbar and code
folding? It rocks better than anything else.
I use vim with the vim-latexsuite package installed, and it does code-folding.
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