Re: Ubuntu Desktop Security Defaults

2009-04-18 Thread John McCabe-Dansted
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Null Ack wrote: > X security. He makes what seems to be a very sound suggestion about > Plash and hooking into GTK, thus overcoming the problem of needing to > in advance make determinations about what a desktop user might do and > the X security problems. Chromi

Re: Ubuntu Desktop Security Defaults

2009-04-14 Thread Null Ack
> I guess I was hallucinating working on the apparmor profile for > clamav-daemon and freshclam (also run as a daemon) today. > Thats great, though Scott please don't make the mistake of taking a strawman approach. What I said was about AppArmor defaults. I dont see my current dev build of the des

Re: Ubuntu Desktop Security Defaults

2009-04-14 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:03:26 +1000 Null Ack wrote: >Considering some noise happening in the blog space over a Linux >magazine article about security problems with Ubuntu server I think we >should re-visit this topic. The article is at: > >http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7297/2/ > >The key criticisms o

Re: Ubuntu Desktop Security Defaults

2009-04-14 Thread Null Ack
Thanks Mathias. I note that discussion is limited to the Server build, whereas this discussion has both desktop and server build topics. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-

Re: Ubuntu Desktop Security Defaults

2009-04-14 Thread Mathias Gug
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 11:03:26AM +1000, Null Ack wrote: > Considering some noise happening in the blog space over a Linux > magazine article about security problems with Ubuntu server I think we > should re-visit this topic. The article is at: > > http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7297/2/ > > The ke

Re: Ubuntu Desktop Security Defaults

2009-04-14 Thread Null Ack
Considering some noise happening in the blog space over a Linux magazine article about security problems with Ubuntu server I think we should re-visit this topic. The article is at: http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7297/2/ The key criticisms of Ubuntu server raised by Linux magazine are: 1. Default p

Re: Ubuntu Desktop Security Defaults

2009-03-17 Thread Null Ack
Gday John, Good to see another Aussie on the list and contributing some top info :) I've looked into Plash and I think your suggestion is excellent. I was thinking of a two pronged approach: 1. AppArmor / SELInux or whatever static like central policy to contain deamons, as these services typic

Re: Ubuntu Desktop Security Defaults

2009-03-17 Thread John McCabe-Dansted
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Null Ack wrote: > * Having AppArmor actually protecting the desktop build rather than > what seems as currently a false illusion of coverage with just CUPS > being protected The big problem with GUI apps, is that Xorg was not really designed to be secure, so apps

Re: Ubuntu Desktop Security Defaults

2009-03-16 Thread Daniel Chen
2009/3/16 Mackenzie Morgan : > Oh, and um...ufw enabled *for IPv6* as well. If not already done, depends on a separate blueprint for enabling ufw with a default deny policy. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://li

Re: Ubuntu Desktop Security Defaults

2009-03-16 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Monday 16 March 2009 2:13:34 am Null Ack wrote: > Gday folks :) > > There is difference between what I foresee as sensible security > defaults for our desktop build against what is being currently > delivered. It may very well be that there is aspects to the current > setup that I am not fully