Re: Some fundamental usability issues

2008-05-14 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 chombee wrote on 08/05/08 02:24: >... > But there is so much fundamentally wrong usability cruft going on here. > This sort of incident should not be possible. Others have discussed the backup and restore issue, so I'll address the lower-level points:

Re: Some fundamental usability issues

2008-05-09 Thread Mario Vukelic
On Fri, 2008-05-09 at 02:50 -0400, Blaise Alleyne wrote: > Sound quite similar to rsnapshot... http://www.rsnapshot.org/ The underlying system, yes. The UI, um, no :) -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ub

Re: Some fundamental usability issues

2008-05-09 Thread Mario Vukelic
On Wed, 2008-05-07 at 21:55 -0400, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: > Your idea would mean going around having to delete a bunch of > temporary files that were autogenerated. When closing the file, the editor could ask whether to keep the file. It already asks whether it should be saved, anyway. -- Ubu

Re: Some fundamental usability issues

2008-05-08 Thread Blaise Alleyne
Alexandre Strube wrote: > On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Markus Hitter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> AFAIK, Apple simply ignores this problem. You either have enough disk >> space, or ... well, I don't know what TimeMachine does in disk full >> conditions. Probably it simply stops doing it

Re: Some fundamental usability issues

2008-05-08 Thread John McCabe-Dansted
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 9:40 PM, Vincenzo Ciancia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Il giorno gio, 08/05/2008 alle 20.28 +0800, John McCabe-Dansted ha > scritto: > > If we define a users work as a user's typing, we could easily save > > this permanently. > > Not quite :) What if I "type" in a video edit

Re: Some fundamental usability issues

2008-05-08 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il giorno gio, 08/05/2008 alle 20.28 +0800, John McCabe-Dansted ha scritto: > If we define a users work as a user's typing, we could easily save > this permanently. Not quite :) What if I "type" in a video editor and save a changed 600mb .avi file? We should record input instead of changed data, b

Re: Some fundamental usability issues

2008-05-08 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 08.05.2008 um 14:28 schrieb John McCabe-Dansted: > [...] and then get up to 4.4GiB a month to play with, which is > probably more than enough to permanently store your average users > documents and photos etc. For me, I'm producing several hundred files each day, most of which are delete

Re: Some fundamental usability issues

2008-05-08 Thread John McCabe-Dansted
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 5:38 PM, Vincenzo Ciancia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Il giorno gio, 08/05/2008 alle 02.24 +0100, chombee ha scritto: > > > > Using git is ridiculously difficult and technical by the standards of > > most normal users, but I see no reason why a versioning system could > > n

Re: Some fundamental usability issues

2008-05-08 Thread Alexandre Strube
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Markus Hitter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > AFAIK, Apple simply ignores this problem. You either have enough disk > space, or ... well, I don't know what TimeMachine does in disk full > conditions. Probably it simply stops doing it's work until you clean > up manuall

Re: Some fundamental usability issues

2008-05-08 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 08.05.2008 um 11:38 schrieb Vincenzo Ciancia: > OSX does automatic backup and versioning, The newest Mac OS X ships with an application which can be told to do backups. It's well integrated into the OS' appearance, though. Automatic backup, as provided with the OS distribution, requires an

Re: Some fundamental usability issues

2008-05-08 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il giorno gio, 08/05/2008 alle 02.24 +0100, chombee ha scritto: > > Using git is ridiculously difficult and technical by the standards of > most normal users, but I see no reason why a versioning system could > not > be built in to the OS or the desktop environment and function > completely > with

Re: Some fundamental usability issues

2008-05-07 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Thu, 2008-05-08 at 02:24 +0100, chombee wrote: > * The user should never have to press Save. There should not be any save > buttons anywhere on the computer. Saving is something the computer can > do automatically all the time, the user never needs to know. Save > buttons were introduced back wh

Some fundamental usability issues

2008-05-07 Thread chombee
Warning: this is a rant. But hopefully we can discuss any developments in Ubuntu in the direction of what I'm talking about. I hope this was the best place to post this. * * * I have little hope that much can happen about this because it would be such a major overhaul, but... my friend was just w