Re: Ubuntu 8.10 released but...

2008-10-30 Thread S'orlok Reaves
> yep. But see, it's not that you or anyone can't fix anything. You just > can't ship the fix yourself, bundled in your package. After all, > branding and theming apart, FF is FOSS (arguably). A valid point, but I think people understand this --they're just upset on principle regarding Mozilla'

Re: Ubuntu 8.10 released but...

2008-10-30 Thread Felipe Figueiredo
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 16:50 -0400, Martin Owens wrote: > > Firefox is a special case. Because of Mozilla Corp's trademark policy > > Ubuntu cannot ship Firefox and call it Firefox unless Mozilla has approved > > all the changes in the package. If you have a problem with Firefox, I > > think yo

Re: Ubuntu 8.10 released but...

2008-10-30 Thread Neal McBurnett
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 07:09:32PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:50:33 -0400 Martin Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Firefox is a special case. Because of Mozilla Corp's trademark policy > >> Ubuntu cannot ship Firefox and call it Firefox unless Mozilla has > ap

Re: Ubuntu 8.10 released but...

2008-10-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:50:33 -0400 Martin Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Firefox is a special case. Because of Mozilla Corp's trademark policy >> Ubuntu cannot ship Firefox and call it Firefox unless Mozilla has approved >> all the changes in the package. If you have a problem with Fire

Re: Ubuntu 8.10 released but...

2008-10-30 Thread Martin Owens
> Firefox is a special case. Because of Mozilla Corp's trademark policy > Ubuntu cannot ship Firefox and call it Firefox unless Mozilla has approved > all the changes in the package. If you have a problem with Firefox, I > think you really need to look upstream. Doesn't this tie our hands wi

Re: Ubuntu 8.10 released but...

2008-10-30 Thread Daniel T Chen
On 10/30/2008 02:10 PM, Thomas Novin wrote: > ...for example these[1,2] bugs never got fixed. Too bad, Firefox is > probably the most commonly used program in Ubuntu and still it works > poorly since you have to be on a above-average-user-level to open > commonly used file formats, save stuff to g

Re: Ubuntu 8.10 released but...

2008-10-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:10:16 +0100 Thomas Novin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >...for example these[1,2] bugs never got fixed. Too bad, Firefox is >probably the most commonly used program in Ubuntu and still it works >poorly since you have to be on a above-average-user-level to open >commonly used fil

Ubuntu 8.10 released but...

2008-10-30 Thread Thomas Novin
...for example these[1,2] bugs never got fixed. Too bad, Firefox is probably the most commonly used program in Ubuntu and still it works poorly since you have to be on a above-average-user-level to open commonly used file formats, save stuff to gvfs-locatation[3,4] and it crashes[5] all the time (p

Re: Ubuntu 8.10 released

2008-10-30 Thread Michael Zoet
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 (``-_-´´) -- Fernando wrote: > Olá Mark e a todos. > > On Thursday 30 October 2008 16:21:19 Mark Shuttleworth wrote: >> It would take a lifetime to visit all the LoCo teams and other >> groups that play a role in bringing Ubuntu to fruition, but it >>

Re: Ubuntu 8.10 released

2008-10-30 Thread (``-_-´´) -- Fernando
Olá Mark e a todos. On Thursday 30 October 2008 16:21:19 Mark Shuttleworth wrote: > It would take a lifetime to visit all the LoCo teams and other groups > that play a role in bringing Ubuntu to fruition, but it would be a fun > life indeed! > > Mark You are free to join one of the 2 Release Par

Re: Ubuntu 8.10 released

2008-10-30 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Congratulations to everyone on the release of the Ibex! There are a number of highlights that everyone is talking about but for me the real highlight is the way our community continues to grow. It's wonderful to see so many people from so many disciplines across so many different communications m