Re: Package branch freshness

2011-07-22 Thread Martin Pool
On 22 July 2011 22:59, John Arbash Meinel wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > Landed in bzr.dev as 6038, though the name changed to just: > launchpad.packaging_verbosity Well done. I think we should put this into 2.4 too. m -- ubuntu-distributed-devel mailing list u

Re: Package branch freshness

2011-07-22 Thread John Arbash Meinel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Landed in bzr.dev as 6038, though the name changed to just: launchpad.packaging_verbosity ... >> all (default) >> Displays multi-line messages for all 3 states > >> Most recent Ubuntu Natty version: 1.0-1ubuntu2 >> Packaging branch version: 1.0-

Re: Package branch freshness

2011-07-20 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Jul 20, 2011, at 05:17 PM, John Arbash Meinel wrote: >This adds a config item: > bzr.plugins.launchpad.packaging_verbosity = > >The possible values are: > >off > Displays nothing, and skips all checks. > >minimal > Only displays single-line me

Re: Package branch freshness

2011-07-20 Thread John Arbash Meinel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/19/2011 12:05 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Jul 18, 2011, at 10:17 PM, John Arbash Meinel wrote: > >> I have a branch in PQM now that adds a version check whenever you access >> a Launchpad packaging branch (http://pad.lv/609187). I have the feeli

Re: Package branch freshness

2011-07-20 Thread John Meinel
It doesn't send Auth headers, and it does get cached by squid. The diff in the datacenter is 200-400ms no cache and 50ms cached by squid. However real-world the cached value isn't very interesting, because I don't think people are going to be flooding the same parameters to an API call. John =:->

Re: Package branch freshness

2011-07-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, July 19, 2011 10:34:09 pm Martin Pool wrote: > On 20 July 2011 12:21, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Tuesday, July 19, 2011 08:00:00 PM Martin Pool wrote: > >> It would be good to get that rmadison into lptools or ubuntu-dev-tools > >> - even a moderately hacky state would be useful. >

Re: Package branch freshness

2011-07-19 Thread Martin Pool
On 20 July 2011 12:21, Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Tuesday, July 19, 2011 08:00:00 PM Martin Pool wrote: >> It would be good to get that rmadison into lptools or ubuntu-dev-tools >> - even a moderately hacky state would be useful. >> >> In general any feature that might conceivably have bad conseq

Re: Package branch freshness

2011-07-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, July 19, 2011 08:00:00 PM Martin Pool wrote: > It would be good to get that rmadison into lptools or ubuntu-dev-tools > - even a moderately hacky state would be useful. > > In general any feature that might conceivably have bad consequences or > not be what people want probably ought t

Re: Package branch freshness

2011-07-19 Thread Robert Collins
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Martin Pool wrote: > Right, but lp_api_lite doesn't send auth headers. > > (Possibly we need to revisit that in the case we ever have private > derived distros.) Then it may be getting cached; check for X- headers from squid. -Rob -- ubuntu-distributed-devel ma

Re: Package branch freshness

2011-07-19 Thread Martin Pool
On 20 July 2011 10:12, Robert Collins wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Martin Pool wrote: > > It would be good to get that rmadison into lptools or ubuntu-dev-tools > > - even a moderately hacky state would be useful. > > > > In general any feature that might conceivably have bad cons

Re: Package branch freshness

2011-07-19 Thread Robert Collins
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Martin Pool wrote: > It would be good to get that rmadison into lptools or ubuntu-dev-tools > - even a moderately hacky state would be useful. > > In general any feature that might conceivably have bad consequences or > not be what people want probably ought to be

Re: Package branch freshness

2011-07-19 Thread Martin Pool
It would be good to get that rmadison into lptools or ubuntu-dev-tools - even a moderately hacky state would be useful. In general any feature that might conceivably have bad consequences or not be what people want probably ought to be behind a configuration option, and I think this is in that cla

Re: Package branch freshness

2011-07-19 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Jul 19, 2011, at 04:33 PM, John Arbash Meinel wrote: >I'm curious what your ping time is. As here it is pretty consistently >2.5s+. And my ping is pretty good at 34ms. Pretty consistently (at least right now ;) ~96ms to bazaar.launchpad.net. >I

Re: Package branch freshness

2011-07-19 Thread John Arbash Meinel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ... >> I think there are a couple of factors: > >> 1) You're on a pretty impressive link. For me, the bzr+ssh handshake >> takes about 2.8s. (time echo hello | ssh bazaar) So adding even 1s >> to that isn't terrible. > > Averages out to about 1

Re: Package branch freshness

2011-07-19 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Jul 19, 2011, at 10:02 AM, John Arbash Meinel wrote: >Well, honestly, I trust your opinion more than mine. Mostly because it >is something that you actively use. I do a lot of programming, but I >don't do a lot of packaging day-to-day. I don't k

Re: Package branch freshness

2011-07-19 Thread Barry Warsaw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Jul 19, 2011, at 09:55 AM, John Arbash Meinel wrote: >I think there are different users for this, and I definitely want to >support the "Barry" user. I don't know that we want it to be the >default, though, because not everyone is nearly as aweso

Re: Package branch freshness

2011-07-19 Thread John Arbash Meinel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/19/2011 1:20 AM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Jul 19, 2011, at 09:09 AM, Martin Pool wrote: > >> Thanks for testing this so quickly, Barry. > > No problem. I'm *very* excited to see this get added. > >> Some of the verbosity was my idea, just to m

Re: Package branch freshness

2011-07-19 Thread John Arbash Meinel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ... > I grabbed lp:bzr and played with it a little bit. In general, I really > appreciate you adding this. Package import failures will probably never be > exactly zero, and the less users expects an import to be out of date, the more > important I

Re: Package branch freshness

2011-07-18 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jul 19, 2011, at 09:09 AM, Martin Pool wrote: >Thanks for testing this so quickly, Barry. No problem. I'm *very* excited to see this get added. >Some of the verbosity was my idea, just to make sure that people >understood this was specifically a check of the packaging branch >against the pub

Re: Package branch freshness

2011-07-18 Thread Martin Pool
Thanks for testing this so quickly, Barry. Some of the verbosity was my idea, just to make sure that people understood this was specifically a check of the packaging branch against the published package, and so they wouldn't confuse this with a message about the wt being out of date. I agree putt

Re: Package branch freshness

2011-07-18 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jul 18, 2011, at 10:17 PM, John Arbash Meinel wrote: >I have a branch in PQM now that adds a version check whenever you access >a Launchpad packaging branch (http://pad.lv/609187). I have the feeling >there is still a bit of polish needed, but I would like to get some >feedback from people actu

Package branch freshness

2011-07-18 Thread John Arbash Meinel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have a branch in PQM now that adds a version check whenever you access a Launchpad packaging branch (http://pad.lv/609187). I have the feeling there is still a bit of polish needed, but I would like to get some feedback from people actually using it.