Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Can we make renames work?

2015-05-20 Thread Martin Pitt
be able to revert/change. Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer (www.debian.org) signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] RTM Translation update

2015-04-09 Thread Martin Pitt
Martin Pitt [2015-04-08 11:40 +0200]: Heroldich Robin [2015-04-08 8:13 +0200]: Ɓukasz Zemczak mentioned in a previous landing mail that the phone translations update at every Tuesdays, but as I see, it only updated at 24th, two weeks ago. Confirmed. This was due to the langpack builder

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] CI phone testing temporarily disabled

2015-01-23 Thread Martin Pitt
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] ANN: change to developer mode access criteria

2014-11-25 Thread Martin Pitt
chicken - egg again. Since adb doesn't run by default anyway, and one has to explicitly enable it with developer mode, what's the thing that we are trying to prevent here? Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] ANN ubuntu-device-flash changes

2014-11-05 Thread Martin Pitt
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Debug packages in landing silos

2014-09-29 Thread Martin Pitt
thought PPAs which enable dbgsyms would (or could) publish the ddebs within their normal Packages.gz. At least that's how I understood ddeb support for PPAs. Adam, does this need some particular magic to get enabled? Could we do that for the silo PPAs? Thanks, Martin -- Martin Pitt

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Debug packages in landing silos

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Pitt
the tarball containing the ddebs, and install those manually. Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer (www.debian.org) signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team: convenience list of ubuntu landings not yet landed in ubuntu-rtm

2014-08-27 Thread Martin Pitt
as there already is a previous upload which isn't in RTM and which I wasn't sure about. Discussed with Bill, and he said he's currently re-syncing messaging-app with trunk/utopic, so that should land soon. Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Updates on RTM branch landing details

2014-08-26 Thread Martin Pitt
PPA (i. e. silo). Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer (www.debian.org) -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Developer mode ... the next steps, managing ssh

2014-08-21 Thread Martin Pitt
Martin Pitt [2014-08-21 11:02 +0200]: well patches to phablet-tools (or dbus-property-service which is the on-device side of this) will indeed be happily accepted to add more features ... my current focus is to get all of phablet-config, phablet-shell and phablet-network to work as before

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Simple mass-change: Mark universe packages for langpacks: done for one package

2014-08-20 Thread Martin Pitt
Hello all, TL;DR: various things will be untranslated on the phone in the next days. Martin Pitt [2014-06-18 13:26 +0200]: FTR, this happened now. language-pack-touch-* have the dialer-app translations, so the next ubuntu-phone image build will have its dialertranslations back. So, time

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Developer mode ... the next steps, managing ssh

2014-08-18 Thread Martin Pitt
the device. Will/does ubuntu-device-flash --developer-mode do that? I. e. we'll set up our test devices with that once, and from then on adb will stay root even after factory reset? Thanks, Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 29.07.14

2014-07-30 Thread Martin Pitt
of fixing LP #1349579, but the crash happens after the important information for whoopsie has been collected. Thus it's purely cosmetical. Fixed in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~apport-hackers/apport/trunk/revision/2829 Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Status update: Planned changes to the developer mode/adb access

2014-07-07 Thread Martin Pitt
access anyway so this is pretty much the only time when we can configure this? Thanks, Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer (www.debian.org) -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Programmatically unlocking Unity for testing

2014-07-03 Thread Martin Pitt
Martin Pitt [2014-07-02 17:16 +0200]: So I think there ought to be a simple way (D-BUS call, flag file, etc.) to either disable the greeter (and then have to restart unity), or unlock it with a D-BUS call (not a security issue, you are already logged into the device anyway). I filed https

[Ubuntu-phone] Wiping phone after testing

2014-07-02 Thread Martin Pitt
could also certainly save the network config, wipe, and restore the network config. Thanks for any insights! Martin [1] http://www.piware.de/2014/07/deb-click-schroot-lxc-qemu-phone-cloud-one-autopkgtest-to-rule-them-all/ [2] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Customization/Installation -- Martin

[Ubuntu-phone] Programmatically unlocking Unity for testing

2014-07-02 Thread Martin Pitt
a D-BUS call? Thanks for any insights! Martin [1] http://www.piware.de/2014/07/deb-click-schroot-lxc-qemu-phone-cloud-one-autopkgtest-to-rule-them-all/ -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer (www.debian.org) -- Mailing

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Wiping phone after testing

2014-07-02 Thread Martin Pitt
of adb commands, or should we rather assume ubuntu-device-do as a dependency in the CI airline if we want to reset phones quickly? Thanks, Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer (www.debian.org) -- Mailing list

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Programmatically unlocking Unity for testing

2014-07-02 Thread Martin Pitt
want :-) Thanks, Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer (www.debian.org) -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net

[Ubuntu-phone] Fixed gdb should deal better with ARM crash reports

2014-07-01 Thread Martin Pitt
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[Ubuntu-phone] autopkgtest can run click tests now [was: Re: Acceptance testing in a sustainable manner]

2014-07-01 Thread Martin Pitt
of Concept -- go wild). Modifications to autopkg to allow it to read and understand clicks (pull depends from them, provision them, etc) Done. Feedback appreciated! Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Acceptance testing in a sustainable manner

2014-06-20 Thread Martin Pitt
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Simple mass-change: Mark universe packages for langpacks: done for one package

2014-06-18 Thread Martin Pitt
Martin Pitt [2014-06-16 9:36 +0200]: On Wed, with the new LP export, I'll double-check that everything is alright and release the rebuilt dialer-app into utopic. Then we can tackle the other dozen projects. FTR, this happened now. language-pack-touch-* have the dialer-app translations, so

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 17.06.14

2014-06-18 Thread Martin Pitt
), but with dialer-app it was shown that the plumbing of translations works. Thanks, Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer (www.debian.org) -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Simple mass-change: Mark universe packages for langpacks: done for one package

2014-06-16 Thread Martin Pitt
Hello again, Martin Pitt [2014-06-13 15:38 +0200]: Thus, we need this addition to debian/control's Source: header: X-Ubuntu-Use-Langpack: yes As Didier and Robert assured that it's ok to push the change to the branch and upload, I did that now for dialer-app. I originally tried with ubuntu

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Simple mass-change: Mark universe packages for langpacks, please include in your next MP

2014-06-14 Thread Martin Pitt
either. Would it work to push to lp:project *and* upload? Would the CI train consider this as a consistent change? Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer (www.debian.org) signature.asc Description: Digital

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 02.06.14

2014-06-03 Thread Martin Pitt
Martin Pitt [2014-06-03 7:41 +0200]: dbus-x11 - which only contains /etc/X11/Xsession.d/75dbus_dbus-launch and depends on the dbus-launch package In case it's easier to do, you can also drop use-session-dbus from /etc/X11/Xsession.options. That's also a conffile, so it's not easier

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 02.06.14

2014-06-02 Thread Martin Pitt
-session-dbus from /etc/X11/Xsession.options. Thanks, Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer (www.debian.org) signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Acceptance testing in a sustainable manner

2014-05-16 Thread Martin Pitt
is not wanted for whatever reason, then the possible test dependencies will be very limited. But that's independent on how you ship the tests (deb/click/autopkgtest). Thanks, Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Customized Upstart Jobs/Overrides

2014-05-03 Thread Martin Pitt
(Debian's already does, we need to merge), so IMHO update-rc.d should be considered the standard interface for disabling/enabling services with any init system. Please let's kill default files whose only purpose is to enable/disable the service. Martin -- Martin Pitt| http

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Customized Upstart Jobs/Overrides

2014-05-03 Thread Martin Pitt
. in each upstart job/systemd units you have to add ugly error handling for the case when you disable the service with /etc/default. I. e. A job/unit starts, but then really doesn't, there isn't a service around, the init system thinks it's crashed, etc. Martin -- Martin Pitt

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Customized Upstart Jobs/Overrides

2014-05-03 Thread Martin Pitt
/systemd/system/*.wants/ . But even with the ability to disable arbitrary services you can already ruin/change the user experience quite a bit, so we still need to be careful there what we allow there. Thanks, Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Customized Upstart Jobs/Overrides

2014-05-02 Thread Martin Pitt
(or also /run/systemd/system/foo.service for one-shot replacements). Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer (www.debian.org) -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Internationalizing scopes

2014-04-21 Thread Martin Pitt
translations in langpacks but in the apps themselves, we don't have the option at all to enable/disable languages individually because we'd always ship with all of them. Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Internationalizing scopes

2014-04-21 Thread Martin Pitt
the gnome/kde/common split for ages because that was what our main products at that time (Ubuntu/Kubuntu) needed. These days, Kubuntu has its own langpacks (kde-l10n-*) so we should indeed reorg our current langpack split more along the desktop/phone lines. Martin -- Martin Pitt

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Internationalizing scopes

2014-04-16 Thread Martin Pitt
in the first place are much smaller than for the classic .deb based desktop. Thanks, Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer (www.debian.org) -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Internationalizing scopes

2014-04-16 Thread Martin Pitt
or so :-) Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer (www.debian.org) -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Internationalizing scopes

2014-04-15 Thread Martin Pitt
isn't going to reach a significant size. So I think which approach to use should be decided based on how we want the translation lifecycle/rollout to look like only. Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Internationalizing scopes

2014-04-15 Thread Martin Pitt
there might indeed be phone/click/scope specic reasons why we'd want one or the other. So I'm not particularly favouring either approach here as I haven't discussed that in detail with other people. Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 07.04.14

2014-04-10 Thread Martin Pitt
://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/dialer-app/fix-dial-number-crash/+merge/209677 But that still didn't land. This is https://bugs.launchpad.net/dialer-app/+bug/1287628, FTR. Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer (www.debian.org

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] No more custom home screen backgrounds?

2014-03-26 Thread Martin Pitt
at night. A white-on-black night mode based on the illumination sensor or just the time of day would be extra-cool, of course :) Thanks, Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer (www.debian.org) -- Mailing list: https

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 20.03.14

2014-03-26 Thread Martin Pitt
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] ANN: TRAINCON-0 - CITRAIN all stop starting Friday

2014-03-21 Thread Martin Pitt
-thesis of our original velocity goal. I think the compromise of keeping the development series going, but simply keep daily images as -proposed until that is fixed is the right way forward here. Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Python2 removal status update

2014-02-25 Thread Martin Pitt
there, then backported to our ofono-rilmodem branch: https://github.com/rilmodem/ofono/pull/56 Waiting for upstream to comment/land that, then we can do the correspondinging packaging changes (which are rather easy to do, and Dimitri already did them anyway in a branch of his'). Martin -- Martin Pitt

[Ubuntu-phone] incomplete apport core dumps [was: Re: Touch image 120 results]

2014-02-07 Thread Martin Pitt
instance, of course. Do we actually have evidence that core dumps are incomplete due to killing unity8, or is that rather that we don't get core dumps at all? Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer (www.debian.org

[Ubuntu-phone] How to automatically test applications that use orientation/acceleration sensors

2014-01-31 Thread Martin Pitt
should work for apps as well. Please talk to me if you want to do this and you run into trouble. There's certainly lots of stuff that we can simplify or improve (e. g. providing higher-level macros in the test sensor format, etc.). Thanks, Martin -- Martin Pitt| http

[Ubuntu-phone] GPS testing [was: How to automatically test applications that use orientation/acceleration sensors]

2014-01-31 Thread Martin Pitt
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Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 30.01.14

2014-01-30 Thread Martin Pitt
Rasmus Eneman [2014-01-31 1:30 +0100]: Systemd? Have I missed something important? systemd as in the project, not as PID 1. We've been using it for a long time (udev, logind, timedated, etc.) Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Touch image 120 results

2014-01-10 Thread Martin Pitt
does that second-phase information collection and then tag it for whoopsie upload. Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer (www.debian.org) -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] dialer-app test crashes [was: Landing team 19.12.13]

2013-12-19 Thread Martin Pitt
Martin Pitt [2013-12-20 6:53 +0100]: The new stack trace in https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/trusty-touch-mako-smoke-dialer-app-autopilot/72/artifact/clientlogs/_usr_bin_dialer-app.32011.crash is still Qt/Mir related, but looks different, so I take it we'll need a new bug for that. While

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] dialer-app test crashes [was: Landing team 19.12.13]

2013-12-19 Thread Martin Pitt
Martin Pitt [2013-12-20 6:53 +0100]: For the record, Mir crashes from the dialer-app tests aren't something new, I filed a long-standing one in October already: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1240400 This was a case where switching from SF to Mir caused crashes, but at that time we didn't have

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] New Landing Plan format!

2013-12-18 Thread Martin Pitt
(but not manager) always have to track down someone in IRC to do this busywork for me. Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer (www.debian.org) -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] LP: #1260712 post-mortem and improving our processes

2013-12-17 Thread Martin Pitt
://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-python/doc/tutorial.html#making-asynchronous-method-calls I've used this approach in good old Jockey back then for backend method calls which can take minutes. Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] New Landing Plan format!

2013-12-17 Thread Martin Pitt
information is in one place? If it's a bug-less new feature or it fixes several bugs, a new landing-plan bug report is of course better. Thanks, Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer (www.debian.org) -- Mailing list

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] ubuntu touch image 12.12.13

2013-12-13 Thread Martin Pitt
to start a tad below the OSK edge so that it'll actually close. Thanks! Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer (www.debian.org) -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] OSK regression [was: Re: Ubuntu touch images - 11.12.13]

2013-12-12 Thread Martin Pitt
know some actual specification for the intended behaviour, so that we can encode that in the test? Thanks, Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer (www.debian.org) -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu

[Ubuntu-phone] OSK regression [was: Re: Ubuntu touch images - 11.12.13]

2013-12-11 Thread Martin Pitt
ourselves ignore real test failures. Thanks, Martin -- Martin Pitt| http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com) | Debian Developer (www.debian.org) -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net