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ZTE ‘seriously considered Ubuntu’ for new crowd-sourced phone (referring back to my previous contribution to this thread) http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/09/zte-seriously-considered-ubuntu-new-crowd-sourced-phone -- Tony Scott https://tonyscott.org.uk On 15 September 2016 at 22:43, anubhav

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Hi, Can your please share your contact detail's.. Fill the detail's below:- Full Name - E-Mail - Contact Detail's(Contact Number):- Country :- On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 8:58 PM, Nikos Chatziioakimidis < nchatziioakimi...@riseup.net> wrote: > On Τετάρτη, 14 Σεπτεμβρίου 2016 6:15:19 Μ.Μ. EEST,

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On Τετάρτη, 14 Σεπτεμβρίου 2016 6:15:19 Μ.Μ. EEST, Krzysztof Tataradziński wrote: Hi, 2016-09-14 16:46 GMT+02:00 Nikos Chatziioakimidis < nchatziioakimi...@riseup.net>: On Τετάρτη, 14 Σεπτεμβρίου 2016 10:36:17 Π.Μ. EEST, Matthias Apitz < g...@unixarea.de> wrote: What

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Hi, 2016-09-14 16:46 GMT+02:00 Nikos Chatziioakimidis < nchatziioakimi...@riseup.net>: > On Τετάρτη, 14 Σεπτεμβρίου 2016 10:36:17 Π.Μ. EEST, Matthias Apitz < > g...@unixarea.de> wrote: > >> >> What I do miss in all this thread, is some statement from BQ about the >> future devices with Ubuntu as

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I think I read somewhere that there were internal bugs at launchpad visible only to canonical members... Even if I didn't read that it's not hard to imagine. Isn't it possible that they just moved the pre-release device images to a private server? If I made Canonical sign NDAs and suddenly I

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On Τετάρτη, 14 Σεπτεμβρίου 2016 10:36:17 Π.Μ. EEST, Matthias Apitz wrote: What I do miss in all this thread, is some statement from BQ about the future devices with Ubuntu as OS, like the existing E4.5 and M10, ... Or have I overlooked this somehow? Thanks matthias

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Me neither, the E4.5 is a nice phone and their service is very good. I hope they will keep offering Ubuntu phones. If bq can't deliver more dedicated Ubuntu phones right now, maybe they can provide us instructions and a tool to root and flash some of their current Android models. I prefer to

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; word:-( ). Cheers Marcin, well known GTrider From: Ari Börde Kröyer <ari.kro...@online.no> To: ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Sent: Monday, September 5, 2016 11:50 PM Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Canonical branded phone? Hi, I am glad to see a bit of discussion on this subjec

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What I do miss in all this thread, is some statement from BQ about the future devices with Ubuntu as OS, like the existing E4.5 and M10, ... Or have I overlooked this somehow? Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz, ✉ g...@unixarea.de, ⌂ http://www.unixarea.de/ ☎ +49-176-38902045 "Ohne die

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2) I meant mobiles (hardware), not the UT. So if no new mobile comes out in every 3 month that does not mean anything. On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Ivo Fernandes wrote: > 1) I think there are ubuntu laptops in the same way there are ubuntu > phones. Dell ships project

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1) I think there are ubuntu laptops in the same way there are ubuntu phones. Dell ships project sputnik with XPS, pre-installed with ubuntu. If you are saying Canonical branded hardware, they don't exist. 2) No, I don't think the improvement is slowing down. There are plenty of good things on

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Hi, also from the silent majority :) 1) there is no ubuntu laptop neither, so dont really expect ubuntu phone either. 2) the developement/improvement of phones are slowing down dramatically, like for computers. Thus it is more then possible that our current phone will stay with us for next 5

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I appreciate all the hard work and sacrifice by the paid and unpaid developers. I hope this serves as inspiration for your continued, amazing efforts: *"they asked him what was the object of all this study applied to an art that would reach but very few. He replied: 'I am content with few,

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Unfortunately and painfully, I must agree that the project may be ending. I must disagree with the "if you build it they will come" logic. I know many people who love my phone and what to work on making convergence based apps, but won't because of the lacking infrastructure. And, this project has

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On 12 September 2016 at 15:16, wrote: [snip] > BACK TO MY POINT -- > Linux didn't achieve the current level of market share by caring about > what the world thought of it. Nor should Ubuntu Touch developers care. > Linux won gradually, because it was a good decision and people

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I usually stay with the quiet majority, but it sounds like I'm hearing opinions inconsistent with the true market. Linux is 25 years old. I've personally been using it as my primary desktop since the late 90s. My kids have grown up with it. We no longer have to justify it's existence to the

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Great links, very useful information, it gives a developer access to a device. And it has 4G! I know I'm nitpicking here, but does anyone have such flash info for an available ~4.7 inch phone? It might come in handy in case my bq dies beyond repair. The Meizu 5 has 5.7 inch screen, it's

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On 12 September 2016 at 05:40, Bob Summerwill wrote: > > Having a good reference device for developers to rally around is certainly > essential. > > That was a killer for Tizen for a long, long time. Samsung released the > RD-PQ (~Galaxy S3 spec) in 2013, and that was the

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That is indeed very good to know. On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 8:28 PM, Mathijs Veen wrote: > For the record, I just bought and flashed Ubuntu Touch on a Meizu Pro 5 - > very possible, and not that hard to do. Cheers, > > Hi Mitchell now thats good news. I scanned xda a while

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Yep - here's a link on AskUbuntu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/767323/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-meizu-pro-5-that-was-originally-with-android And here's the documentation I followed, posted up as a thread on Google+ https://plus.google.com/u/0/103449842981186239877/posts/RBDbK82Lt83 Works

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No plans to sell the MX5 Pro, thanks :-) Having a good reference device for developers to rally around is certainly essential. That was a killer for Tizen for a long, long time. Samsung released the RD-PQ (~Galaxy S3 spec) in 2013, and that was the only viable platform for development work for

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For the record, I just bought and flashed Ubuntu Touch on a Meizu Pro 5 - very possible, and not that hard to do. Cheers, M On 12/09/16 13:14, Mathijs Veen wrote: Well I am not quite that pessimistic Bob, I am just saying if no oems are doing a new Ubuntu phone any time soon, you would need

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For the record, I just bought and flashed Ubuntu Touch on a Meizu Pro 5 - very possible, and not that hard to do. Cheers, Hi Mitchell now thats good news. I scanned xda a while back and read there was still problems doing that. Could you point me to some details? On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 5:22 AM,

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Why would it be necessary for Canonical to make a new phone when they can just ask Meizu and Bq to provide a new batch? Again; if the plan was to not sell many phones, then why would you expect them to sell many? The whole point is that Ubuntu for phones is a work in progress. It hasn't been

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Well I am not quite that pessimistic Bob, I am just saying if no oems are doing a new Ubuntu phone any time soon, you would need a relatively current reference device that is stable. Just to tide every one over till that time does come again. Say an N5 or N6. I congratulate you on getting your

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Great summary, Mathijs, I have been using first a Meizu MX4 and then a Meizu MX5 Pro successfully here in Vancouver, Canada as my daily driver. But in the absence of real devices, there is little point in the project continuing. It would just be a drain of limited funding for Canonical, who

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Hi (Jo-Erlend, I think you are missing the point: There aren't any phones for new user to get. But worse: there are no phones for active users/developers to replace theirs if broken. There haven’t been for quite some time. That's bad because it is really hampering community involvement, let alone

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Why are you even asking if Meizu of Bq has lost interest? Do you know something I don't? The point was to produce a small number of phones for people who really want it and knows why. Developers and enthusiasts. This was announced as the strategy from the very beginning, long before there were any

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That logic holds true for users that are not USA based. For those of us who are, we run into the following series of troubles. 1) All of the Meizu phones are not FCC licensed and therefore can't be used in the USA. 2) The Nexus 4 is too fragile for everyday use. I ran through 4 $125 screen

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I think that at this point it's better to have readily available Android phones that you can flash UT on ("official" reference devices), than selling UT devices as a product. The latter creates false expectations, whereas the people who should be trying UT now won't mind buying the device with

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More phones will be available to buy when the platform is free of some bugs and, of course, ready to all type of apps. The current devices where made to help push foward the OS. I've a friend that brought a M10, and it's not quite ready for convergence, the keyboard still lacks in features. No one

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I admire what Fairphone are doing (although I'd personally like a bigger device), and I like that the community port is quite advanced: I'd go for that. As I've said many times elsewhere: it would be good if we could flash Ubuntu onto the device of our choosing - unfortunately, at least at

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If Meizu and bq have lost interest in the platform, and are really not planning to build new phones then, perhaps enthusiasts - of which there seem to be no shortage - should go down the Fairphone route, and crowd-source a small run of devices, designed for Ubuntu and produced by an OEM. I

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I suspect that supporting Ubuntu on Nexus devices is likely the best path in the short-term. Though, having said that, it appears that vanilla AOSP doesn't even work on 5X and 6P anymore: https://twitter.com/CopperheadOS/status/772592323112869888 On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Mitchell Reese

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On Thursday, 8 September 2016 4:47:42 AM AEST, Bob Summerwill wrote: Are OEMs not queuing up to ship devices running Touch? I suspect that the answer to that is "no". If, as seems likely, both BQ and Meizu have no immediate plans to ship further Ubuntu Touch devices

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On 7 September 2016 at 20:47, Bob Summerwill wrote: > >> Are OEMs not queuing up to ship devices running Touch? > > I suspect that the answer to that is "no". > > If, as seems likely, both BQ and Meizu have no immediate plans to ship > further Ubuntu Touch devices then that

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>> Are OEMs not queuing up to ship devices running Touch? I suspect that the answer to that is "no". If, as seems likely, both BQ and Meizu have no immediate plans to ship further Ubuntu Touch devices then that likely means that it is not economically beneficial to them to do so. That

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+1 The same thought had crossed my mind. Touch seems to be reaching the point of maturity where something of the Edge's specs might come to fruition. It would be a winner, imho. Are OEMs not queuing up to ship devices running Touch? m On 07/09/16 14:32, Art wrote: Question... I read

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Question... I read all the comments, and I am now curious. What is to stop Canonical from releasing their own branded phones right now?? Just because the current 'offering' isn't Canonical branded, Is there anything that prevents them from selling a Canonical branded phone later on??

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You can try voting for this https://community.zteusa.com/ideas/1869 to get ZTE to manufacturer an Ubuntu phone. NB - you'll need to register before being able to vote https://community.zteusa.com/community/csx/blog/2016/09/01/voting-instructions -- Tony Scott https://tonyscott.org.uk On 5

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Hi, I am glad to see a bit of discussion on this subject. Canonical did try to launch production of a phone on it's own with the Ubuntu Edge. But they are not the only ones who have tried to gather interest for

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Hi, I think canonical isn't searching oem's to sell ubuntu phones. I bet in the opposite... oem's are trying to convince canonical to sell ubuntu phones. For the moment, more work has to be done. UT isn't taking full advance of the capabilities of the current devices. But I agree that more

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Hi Now that Ubuntu for phones is a bit more known to people it might make more sense. Secondly now there really is something to use. Back then it was mostly promiseware... I would back it up in a beat! > On 5 Sep 2016, at 19.51, Krzysztof Tataradziński wrote: > > Hello,

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Hello, 2016-09-05 17:16 GMT+02:00 Oliver Grawert : > hi, > Am Montag, den 05.09.2016, 16:49 +0200 schrieb Krzysztof Tataradziński: > > > Did anyone from Canonical considered to 'simply' develop phone > > themselves alone, order it in factory and sell with Canonical brand? > >

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hi, Am Montag, den 05.09.2016, 16:49 +0200 schrieb Krzysztof Tataradziński: > Did anyone from Canonical considered to 'simply' develop phone  > themselves alone, order it in factory and sell with Canonical brand? yes, it was called "Ubuntu Edge" and failed teh crowdfunding campaign... ciao

[Ubuntu-phone] Canonical branded phone?

Hi Did anyone from Canonical considered to 'simply' develop phone themselves alone, order it in factory and sell with Canonical brand? I know that's is not that simple as assembling computer (take 1 CPU, 1 motherboard, etc. and put them together in box), but maybe this can be better, instead of

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Hi, Yes! this is indeed a brilliant idea! but creating a phone cost a lot of money, and canonical would need to sell quite a lot of phones to get profit of it. but saying that, if they do not try they will never succeed. Selling a canonical brand phone could help them fund other project and then