Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Difficulty Sending Messages to this List (was Re: (no subject)

2016-03-20 Thread Robert Schroll
I have had a number of messages from yahoo accounts end up in my (gmail) spam foulder. Generally, Gmail says, Why is this message in Spam? It's from an address in the yahoo.com domain but has failed yahoo.com's required tests for authentication. There are (at least) two obvious things that c

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Difficulty Sending Messages to this List (was Re: (no subject)

2016-03-19 Thread Matthias Apitz
El sábado, 19 de marzo de 2016 18:35:47 (CET), Randall Ross escribió: I think we're mixing two sceraios: 1) what a person's email system does with messages received from this list, and, 2) what this list does with inbound messages, that is the messages that people are trying to send to ubuntu-p

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Difficulty Sending Messages to this List (was Re: (no subject)

2016-03-19 Thread Gareth France
On 18/03/16 18:17, Rodney Dawes wrote: may be that certain e-mail providers often have more spam sent through them, and thus, your e-mail address may be identified as spam. These sort of issues are exactly why I stopped using gmail for anything important and got my own domain. I hate spam filter

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Difficulty Sending Messages to this List (was Re: (no subject)

2016-03-19 Thread รัชนันท์ ศรีรัตนเมธ
On 20/03/2559 00:01, Filip Dorosz wrote: Exactly. In my expirence gmail nowadays tend to treat everything that's not gmail as spam (perhaps, he is being racist?). The best solution is simple: change your provider or use your own server. Regards, Filip Dorosz I think that's not the case. The ac

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Difficulty Sending Messages to this List (was Re: (no subject)

2016-03-19 Thread Randall Ross
I think we're mixing two sceraios: 1) what a person's email system does with messages received from this list, and, 2) what this list does with inbound messages, that is the messages that people are trying to send to ubuntu-phone. I'm worried about #2. That's the scenario where people find themse

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Difficulty Sending Messages to this List (was Re: (no subject)

2016-03-19 Thread Filip Dorosz
Exactly. In my expirence gmail nowadays tend to treat everything that's not gmail as spam (perhaps, he is being racist?). The best solution is simple: change your provider or use your own server. Regards, Filip Dorosz W dniu 18.03.2016 o 19:52, Gareth France pisze: On 18/03/16 18:17, Rodney Da

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Difficulty Sending Messages to this List (was Re: (no subject)

2016-03-19 Thread Randall Ross 
Yes, that was my guess too. They both swear that they have checked their subscription e-mail addresses and they match... I've asked them to the point of being borderline "annoying" ;) so I'm at the point where I believe they've triple-checked and it's not their fault. Agree that it's difficult to

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Difficulty Sending Messages to this List (was Re: (no subject)

2016-03-18 Thread Rodney Dawes
No, that is not the problem. Sending a message with a different e-mail address will have your message land in the moderator queue, and you will get an e-mail saying so. If it goes through and ends up in the spam folders of people subscribed to the list, then the only relation to e-mail address used

[Ubuntu-phone] Difficulty Sending Messages to this List (was Re: (no subject)

2016-03-18 Thread Randall Ross 
I'm wondering how widespread this issue is... I've had two friends this week tell me that although they can receive ubuntu-phone messages, they cannot post. Is this a case of over-aggressive spam filters, or perhaps a moderation queue issue? Can the list admin investigate? Cheers, Randall. On 0

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Difficulty Sending Messages to this List (was Re: (no subject)

2016-03-18 Thread Peter Bittner
Have them check whether they use the same, identical email address for posting messages that they have subscribed with. I'm 99% sure this is the problem. It's like faxes. Why the hack do people lift the receiver and then hang up when they hear the fax signal? Probably because the system is not in