Re: RFC: redhat-cluster-suite demotion to universe

2010-02-10 Thread Mathias Gug
Hi Ante, On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 06:03:10PM +0100, Ante Karamatić wrote: > On 10.02.2010 17:26, Mathias Gug wrote: > > >If I understand correctly the following rhcs binary packages (GFS + > >DLM) should be kept in main for the new cluster stack: > > This looks OK, but please wait till I create n

Re: RFC: redhat-cluster-suite demotion to universe

2010-02-10 Thread Mathias Gug
Hi Ante, 2010/2/7 Ante Karamatić : > On 07.02.2010 19:01, Mathias Gug wrote: > >> I had a discussion with Fabio, the upstream redhat-cluster-suite >> maintainer, and it seems that the stack corosync+openais+pacemaker is >> not feature equivalent with the current redhat-cluster-suite. > > Btw, pace

Re: RFC: redhat-cluster-suite demotion to universe

2010-02-07 Thread Ante Karamatić
On 07.02.2010 19:01, Mathias Gug wrote: > I had a discussion with Fabio, the upstream redhat-cluster-suite > maintainer, and it seems that the stack corosync+openais+pacemaker is > not feature equivalent with the current redhat-cluster-suite. Btw, pacemaker supports GFS2 and with RHCS 3.0.7 one c

Re: RFC: redhat-cluster-suite demotion to universe

2010-02-07 Thread Ante Karamatić
On 07.02.2010 20:52, Mathias Gug wrote: > If I understand correctly it's currently impossible to upgrade > automatically from cman/rgmanager to the new stack. Fabio told me that > there were plans to add support for the existing cman/rgman > configuration syntax to the new components (pacemaker) b

Re: RFC: redhat-cluster-suite demotion to universe

2010-02-07 Thread Mathias Gug
Hi Ante, 2010/2/7 Ante Karamatić : > > Well, parts of cluster suite will be unmaintained. I doubt support for > distributed lock manager or gfs2 will be dropped (and those are only > things we need). Stuff that will go away are cman, rgmanager, etc... > Agreed - it's my understanding as well. DLM

Re: RFC: redhat-cluster-suite demotion to universe

2010-02-07 Thread Ante Karamatić
On 07.02.2010 19:01, Mathias Gug wrote: > I had a discussion with Fabio, the upstream redhat-cluster-suite > maintainer, and it seems that the stack corosync+openais+pacemaker is > not feature equivalent with the current redhat-cluster-suite. Moreover > redhat-cluster-suite is currently updated to

Re: RFC: redhat-cluster-suite demotion to universe

2010-02-07 Thread Mathias Gug
Hi Ante, 2010/2/3 Ante Karamatić : > On 04.01.2010 18:16, Mathias Gug wrote: > >> As part of the Server lucid seeds blueprint [1] I'd like to request your >> feedback on whether redhat-cluster-suite should be demoted to universe. > > Do *NOT* demote it to universe. There are libraries (libdlm, > l

Re: RFC: redhat-cluster-suite demotion to universe

2010-02-03 Thread Ante Karamatić
On 04.01.2010 18:16, Mathias Gug wrote: > As part of the Server lucid seeds blueprint [1] I'd like to request your > feedback on whether redhat-cluster-suite should be demoted to universe. Do *NOT* demote it to universe. There are libraries (libdlm, libdlmcontrold) and maybe some binaries (gf2-t

Re: RFC: redhat-cluster-suite demotion to universe

2010-01-07 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Jan 04, 2010 at 06:59:04PM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: > "Mathias Gug" wrote: > > >Pros for universe demotion: > > * extremely difficult to test > > * earlier versions were very painful to get security updates applied > > I think these are better arguments for removal than demotion. I

Re: RFC: redhat-cluster-suite demotion to universe

2010-01-04 Thread Vikram Dhillon
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Mathias Gug wrote: > Hi, > > As part of the Server lucid seeds blueprint [1] I'd like to request your > feedback on whether redhat-cluster-suite should be demoted to universe. > > Pros for universe demotion: >  * extremely difficult to test >  * earlier versions we

Re: RFC: redhat-cluster-suite demotion to universe

2010-01-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
"Mathias Gug" wrote: >Pros for universe demotion: > * extremely difficult to test > * earlier versions were very painful to get security updates applied I think these are better arguments for removal than demotion. If it's too hard for Canonical to maintain, punting it to the community isn't

RFC: redhat-cluster-suite demotion to universe

2010-01-04 Thread Mathias Gug
Hi, As part of the Server lucid seeds blueprint [1] I'd like to request your feedback on whether redhat-cluster-suite should be demoted to universe. Pros for universe demotion: * extremely difficult to test * earlier versions were very painful to get security updates applied Pros for keeping i