Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Feature Spec discussion: ubuntustudio-desktop

2014-05-18 Thread bart deruyter
Hi, the reason for upgrading each 6 months and not sticking to LTS version is mainly Krita and Blender for me. Those are evolving so fast it's hard to keep up without upgrading. The dependencies change with them because they often use latest stable versions of certain libraries. Because for me per

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Feature Spec discussion: ubuntustudio-desktop

2014-05-18 Thread lukefromdc
Might be best off by having US itself as a meta installable over any DE, assuming the rt-kernel used supports 3d for those DE's requiring it. That would drop into any flavor of Ubuntu, into Mint with a little hacking, maybe even could be ported to Debian if anyone really wants to go there. On 5/18

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Naming the metas, WAS:Re: Feature Spec discussion: ubuntustudio-desktop

2014-05-18 Thread lukefromdc
Watch out for rt-kernel issues with 3d desktops. When I was trying to develop a metapackage for Cinnamon against Saucy, I had issues with some rt kernel versions being unable to run the 3d desktop. I would expect similar issues both with Unity and with Gnome. The work I was doing was seriously h

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Feature Spec discussion: ubuntustudio-desktop

2014-05-18 Thread Jimmy Sjölund
On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 11:43 AM, bart deruyter wrote: > > OK, I can fix it in terminal, but I'm a user, not an administrator and > with the release cycle of six months, digging into manuals and tutorials to > fix my wacom each 6 months (yes, I forget it after six months, because I > the time on m

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Feature Spec discussion: ubuntustudio-desktop

2014-05-18 Thread Len Ovens
On Sun, 18 May 2014, bart deruyter wrote: I'd like to add my opinion on this. Thankyou! As a user I usually install ubuntu-studio and then add kubuntu-desktop, that way I have the low-latency kernel as default on boot and I log into KDE, having the menu's perfectly arranged as in ubuntustudio

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Naming the metas, WAS:Re: Feature Spec discussion: ubuntustudio-desktop

2014-05-18 Thread Len Ovens
On Sun, 18 May 2014, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: I would suggest we name the metas and the desktop sessions: ubuntustudio-gnome ubuntustudio-kde ubuntustudio-lxde ubuntustudio-unity ubuntustudio-xfce Does the one that comes stock need to have it's own name? or should it be called -custom? I guess my

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Feature Spec discussion: ubuntustudio-desktop

2014-05-18 Thread Len Ovens
On Sun, 18 May 2014, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: # Supporting multiple Desktop Environments There are two ways we can do this: * base our desktop environments on flavor DE metas such as ubuntu-desktop, xubuntu-desktop, etc, * or we base on the vanilla DE metas, such as xfce4 (not sure how that works wit

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Feature Spec Discussion: Multimedia Package Selection

2014-05-18 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
> We don't have any specific package selection process. Since there are so > few developers involved, we tend to just talk it through between the few > of us on our irc channel. So, this is something that could be worked at. > How should we go about choosing packages for our default install? Actu

[ubuntu-studio-devel] Feature Spec Discussion: Workflow Categorization

2014-05-18 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
# Workflow Categorization for ubuntustudio-{audio|graphics|video|publishing|photography} Before we do any technical implementation of workflow categorization, we need to define a set of workflows that we want to support. Some work on that has been started here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/

[ubuntu-studio-devel] Feature Spec Discussion: Multimedia Package Selection

2014-05-18 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
Currently, the philosophy for accepting multimedia packages to be included in our default installation is that we don't already have a better package for the workflow it covers. There may be some cases where there are two applications that can do the same exact things, but where one is for newbies

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Feature Spec discussion: ubuntustudio-desktop

2014-05-18 Thread bart deruyter
Hi, I'd like to add my opinion on this. As a user I usually install ubuntu-studio and then add kubuntu-desktop, that way I have the low-latency kernel as default on boot and I log into KDE, having the menu's perfectly arranged as in ubuntustudio when I use the old start menu of KDE. I switch off

[ubuntu-studio-devel] Feature Spec discussion: Realtime Privilege and access to ffado devices

2014-05-18 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
We should do something about how realtime privilege is administered. Currently, the upstream Debian package jackd installs a file, giving members of audio group access to tuned "rtprio" and "memlock", at /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf. Also, access to ffado drivers is done from /lib/udev/rules

[ubuntu-studio-devel] Naming the metas, WAS:Re: Feature Spec discussion: ubuntustudio-desktop

2014-05-18 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
I would suggest we name the metas and the desktop sessions: ubuntustudio-gnome ubuntustudio-kde ubuntustudio-lxde ubuntustudio-unity ubuntustudio-xfce -- ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/lis

[ubuntu-studio-devel] Feature Spec discussion: ubuntustudio-desktop

2014-05-18 Thread Kaj Ailomaa
# Supporting multiple Desktop Environments There has long been talk about us possibly supporting multiple desktop environments. Doing so, we would use existing DE metas, and just add our own session, menu, and artwork. The desktop environments in question would be unity, gnome, kde, xfce and lxde.