On Sun, 18 May 2014, bart deruyter wrote:
I'd like to add my opinion on this.

Thankyou!

As a user I usually install ubuntu-studio and then add kubuntu-desktop, that
way I have the low-latency kernel as default on boot and I log into KDE,
having the menu's perfectly arranged as in ubuntustudio when I use the old
start menu of KDE. I switch off desktop effects because in KDE, Unity and
Gnome they cause trouble running qjack, even though I have a very good
machine.

We need to add the tweak that displays a kind of kernel as default upstream into grub I think... in fact there are a few changes I would like to see there. Anyway, to default the lowlatency kernel at boot requires the addition of one file, but it could still be made into a package of it's own.

The reason why I use KDE instead of XFCE is because I have a two monitor
setup and I have to setup my wacom to use only one screen. XFCE does not
have a GUI configuration tool to configure my wacom correctly. Also, KDE
offers me a good workflow (but that's a personal preference).

This is good to know. The truth is that most of us who work on Studio are audio first people. KDE does work well for me as well, I don't like the audio control and end up installing pavucontrol to deal with initial setup of pulse and to deal with things like skype thereafter. (skype has issues) I can do this with kmix, but I have to work harder to find where... and many more clicks too. A good audio setup tool is something we need anyway because many of our users add extra audio IFs. xfce has just last cycle gotten a good dual monitor setup applet. Drawing tablet setup is something we need to look into. I have been wanting to get one as I have an idea for using one as a control surface for audio work. It is (as they say) on my list.

OK, I can fix it in terminal, but I'm a user, not an administrator and with
the release cycle of six months, digging into manuals and tutorials to fix
my wacom each 6 months (yes, I forget it after six months, because I the

One of Studio's goals is to be a GUI centric distro.

Thinking about the way I use ubuntu-studio, my conclusion is simple. It are
the GUI configuration tools that make me decide which DE to use. If ubuntu
studio could offer the right GUI tools to configure my kernel, audio, video
and wacom, without having to browse through countless wiki's each 6 months
then I think it doesn't matter which DE I use.

Thinking about maintenance of the software, I think it's the easiest way to
maintain the right configuration tools for one DE instead of several, but
I'm not a coder, so I can't evaluate that.

I think some of these set tools can be DE agnostic. It may be possible to use the KDE or gnome drawing tablet setup app(let) inside xfce. The colour adjustment setups is another area we need work on. The problem is that I cannot just go out an buy every tool we want to support so I can make sure it works. I could probably, if I knew the commandline stuff that worked, make a python/perl/or tcl script gui that worked with any DE, but I could not test it. Also, I could not give any ETA on it being done as family comes first. However, having someone there to test creations at least makes it doable.


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Len Ovens
www.ovenwerks.net




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