Re: [ubuntu-uk] rsync chgrp problem - advice, please?

2007-06-08 Thread luxxius
Neil Greenwood wrote: The reason that the directories 'vanished' is that execute permission is used to indicate that directories can be browsed i.e. listed in ls or Nautilus. When you did the chmod 664 it also worked on the directories, and then you couldn't look into them. Neil This was

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Eyecandy in Ubuntu Feisty Vs. Vista Aero

2007-06-08 Thread Skeg Fast
I hear ya! I've converted a lot of people to Linux just from them sitting and watching me use Kubuntu with Beryl on a 4 year old desktop. Yeah, my desktop struggles with Vista too... (Spins cube). No, this isn't Vista (Spins cube some more+transparent stuff). Yeah, from 2004, Athlon XP (Hits

Re: [ubuntu-uk] rsync chgrp problem - advice, please?

2007-06-08 Thread luxxius
Robert McWilliam wrote: The escaped semi colon just marks the end of the command to -exec, as you figured. Each time find gets a result, it runs the commands in the -exec options replacing the {} with the path to the result (there are other things, e.g. inode number, that you can substitute in

Re: [ubuntu-uk] rsync chgrp problem - advice, please?

2007-06-08 Thread Neil Greenwood
On 08/06/07, luxxius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see now why the Ubuntu default is 755 (all the digits odd) - everyone can, for starters, see the directories and their contents. I think the default for directories is 755, the default for files should be 644. The default is set using the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] rsync chgrp problem - advice, please?

2007-06-08 Thread Kirrus
snip Ah, right! I'd missed the the fact that -exec was a condition of 'find'; glad I didn't try using it to pipe other stuff into! 'Find' is clearly powerful, but a bit of a portmanteau, and it's easy to miss the significance of its conditions in the four pages of material in 'Linux in

Re: [ubuntu-uk] rsync chgrp problem - advice, please?

2007-06-08 Thread luxxius
Neil Greenwood wrote: I think the default for directories is 755, the default for files should be 644. The default is set using the umask command, in case you wanted to know. Yes, those defaults would make sense - everyone can at least see what's in directories, and read files, but not

[ubuntu-uk] Dell promoting Ubuntu a bit more actively...

2007-06-08 Thread luxxius
Friends Came across this news item about Dell Ubuntu: http://www.madpenguin.org/cms/?m=showid=7902 which also contains reference to this Dell-site video: http://tinyurl.com/24uyxb (Navigate on right to - 'Home' / News You Can Use / Linux 101) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com

[ubuntu-uk] How to grow the user base amoung 'normal' users...

2007-06-08 Thread Anders Jacobsen
So this idea occurred to me while I was flicking through some leaflets I got in the post: What is we gave free training, certification and incentives to all the numerous pay-per-incident support companies that daily help Windows users with viruses, adware, basic stuff? There's GeekSquad,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] rsync chgrp problem - advice, please?

2007-06-08 Thread Tony Arnold
Neil, Neil Greenwood wrote: I guess that the reason for the alternative is that some people can't cope with the octal notation (or maybe the octal notation was added as a shortcut later), but the chmod command is ancient (at least 25 years), so I'm not sure. My guess is that the octal

Re: [ubuntu-uk] rsync chgrp problem - advice, please?

2007-06-08 Thread Neil Greenwood
On 08/06/07, Tony Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neil, Neil Greenwood wrote: I guess that the reason for the alternative is that some people can't cope with the octal notation (or maybe the octal notation was added as a shortcut later), but the chmod command is ancient (at least 25

Re: [ubuntu-uk] rsync chgrp problem - advice, please?

2007-06-08 Thread Tony Arnold
Neil, Neil Greenwood wrote: My wife says I have a good memory for useless things, but can't remember anything useful, so obviously the text notation of chmod is too useful. LOL! Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building,