[ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Intrepid 8.10 Kubuntu - disaster

2008-11-08 Thread alan c
I have just tried kubuntu 8.10 Live CD for the first time and I am deeply troubled by what I find. I have had difficulty trying to run it, and when I have found a machine and a way to run it, I find I am then totally confused. This is all bad news for advocacy activities - I am an energetic

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Intrepid 8.10 Kubuntu - disaster

2008-11-08 Thread Alan Pope
2008/11/8 alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have just tried kubuntu 8.10 Live CD for the first time and I am deeply troubled by what I find. I just booted Kubuntu 8.10 on my Dell XPS laptop and it seemed quite nice. I'm no fan of KDE but I can see how it might appeal to someone looking at XP or

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Intrepid 8.10 Kubuntu - disaster

2008-11-08 Thread Lucy
On 08/11/2008, Bruce Beardall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If we're to advocate Linux [and as far as this list is concerned, Ubuntu] should we be concentrating our advocacy on the LTS release? It's all too easy for anyone on this list to get carried away with the latest and greatest but the vast

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Intrepid 8.10 Kubuntu - disaster

2008-11-08 Thread Bruce Beardall
I think you raise some important concerns, Alan. As a Gnome user, I can't really say I've had much recent experience beyond a cursory glance at KDE 4 but I think this leads to an interesting question: If we're to advocate Linux [and as far as this list is concerned, Ubuntu] should we be

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Intrepid 8.10 Kubuntu - disaster

2008-11-08 Thread gav
On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 12:41:08PM +, Bruce Beardall wrote: I think you raise some important concerns, Alan. As a Gnome user, I can't really say I've had much recent experience beyond a cursory glance at KDE 4 but I think this leads to an interesting question: If we're to advocate Linux

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Conversion from .oma to mp3

2008-11-08 Thread Farran
On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 12:19 +, Javad Ayaz wrote: Does anyone know if any of the open source programs like winff can decode from Sony's .oma format. To those who dont know Sony's sonicstage wraps mp3 files in .oma and then puts it on the player. I dont have access to a windows pc

Re: [ubuntu-uk] video playback

2008-11-08 Thread Farran
On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 22:06 +, Farran wrote: On Sun, 2008-11-02 at 22:39 +, Jason Liquorish wrote: Farran Lee wrote: hi all just upgraded, now basic video formats like .avi won't play :( help please :) thanks === Farran Lee

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Intrepid 8.10 Kubuntu - disaster

2008-11-08 Thread Rob Beard
Bruce Beardall wrote: I think you raise some important concerns, Alan. As a Gnome user, I can't really say I've had much recent experience beyond a cursory glance at KDE 4 but I think this leads to an interesting question: If we're to advocate Linux [and as far as this list is concerned,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Conversion from .oma to mp3

2008-11-08 Thread gav
On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 04:14:37PM +, Farran wrote: On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 12:19 +, Javad Ayaz wrote: Does anyone know if any of the open source programs like winff can decode from Sony's .oma format. To those who dont know Sony's sonicstage wraps mp3 files in .oma and then

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Conversion from .oma to mp3

2008-11-08 Thread Kris Douglas
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 16:47, gav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 04:14:37PM +, Farran wrote: On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 12:19 +, Javad Ayaz wrote: Does anyone know if any of the open source programs like winff can decode from Sony's .oma format. To those who dont

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Conversion from .oma to mp3

2008-11-08 Thread Mark Fraser
On Wednesday 05 November 2008 12:19:54 Javad Ayaz wrote: Does anyone know if any of the open source programs like winff can decode from Sony's .oma format. To those who dont know Sony's sonicstage wraps mp3 files in .oma and then puts it on the player. I dont have access to a windows pc

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Intrepid 8.10 Kubuntu - disaster

2008-11-08 Thread Paul Sutton
gav wrote: On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 12:41:08PM +, Bruce Beardall wrote: I think you raise some important concerns, Alan. As a Gnome user, I can't really say I've had much recent experience beyond a cursory glance at KDE 4 but I think this leads to an interesting question: If we're to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Intrepid 8.10 Kubuntu - disaster

2008-11-08 Thread Rob Beard
Sean Miller wrote: We now seem to have a relatively stable system for him, but I've told him to leave NVDIA graphics out for the time being. That REALLY screws everything. Ahh so I'm not the only one to think this then? When I upgrade I'll be most probably going back to an ATI X300 video

Re: [ubuntu-uk] video playback

2008-11-08 Thread Steve Flynn
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Farran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just realised, it's not all fine several things uninstalled themselves when i moved my pc back to my internetless room - nvidia driver, totem-gstreamer and several of it's plugins, and a few other things Which is all well

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Intrepid 8.10 Kubuntu - disaster

2008-11-08 Thread Sean Miller
That could be right, Alan... I'm not sure what my friend has done exactly, but what's happened is that on bootup nvidia fails to load and if we select the restricted driver the machine won't boot... it won't even go into x at all. We then have to do a dpkg-reconfigure to reset the graphics to the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Intrepid 8.10 Kubuntu - disaster

2008-11-08 Thread Matt Jones
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/11/8 Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sean Miller wrote: We now seem to have a relatively stable system for him, but I've told him to leave NVDIA graphics out for the time being. That REALLY screws everything.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Intrepid 8.10 Kubuntu - disaster

2008-11-08 Thread Sean Miller
I've spent the day trying to help a potter with his Kubuntu 8.10 woes. Great laugh on a Saturday! We now seem to have a relatively stable system for him, but I've told him to leave NVDIA graphics out for the time being. That REALLY screws everything. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Intrepid 8.10 Kubuntu - disaster

2008-11-08 Thread gav
On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 05:55:46PM +, Paul Sutton wrote: I thought this was a matter of course for most operating systems, wait a while, see if there any major issues then upgrade, of course if everyone did that we would not identify issues, perhaps also as advocates we should install

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Intrepid 8.10 Kubuntu - disaster

2008-11-08 Thread alan c
Lucy wrote: [...] I've also had problems with the latest Ubuntu and I think some of the problems he's experienced could also affect Ubuntu too. Oddly enough though I'm quite keen to try out KDE again, to see how I feel with it's latest changes. Newbie nightmares aside, the new kubuntu - (kde

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Intrepid 8.10 Kubuntu - disaster

2008-11-08 Thread alan c
gav wrote: On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 12:41:08PM +, Bruce Beardall wrote: I think you raise some important concerns, Alan. As a Gnome user, I can't really say I've had much recent experience beyond a cursory glance at KDE 4 but I think this leads to an interesting question: If we're to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Intrepid 8.10 Kubuntu - disaster

2008-11-08 Thread alan c
Alan Pope wrote: 2008/11/8 alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have just tried kubuntu 8.10 Live CD for the first time and I am deeply troubled by what I find. I just booted Kubuntu 8.10 on my Dell XPS laptop and it seemed quite nice. I'm no fan of KDE but I can see how it might appeal to someone

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Intrepid 8.10 Kubuntu - disaster

2008-11-08 Thread Alan Pope
2008/11/8 alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It seems that some problems are associated with xorg and its (now) lack of visible configuration. I could usually stumble in the right direction when xorg.conf was meaningful, even using vi, but I am quite lost in the current situations, with the minimal