Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-03 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 02/05/12 23:08, Bruno Girin wrote: On 02/05/12 08:29, Alan Lord (News) wrote: On 02/05/12 01:15, Alan Pope wrote: The fix apparently is to fix java to export that data. That is interesting. Thanks for looking into it. But it does beg the thought... in earlier versions of Gnome/Ubuntu

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-02 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 02/05/12 01:15, Alan Pope wrote: I had a chat with a couple of the developers today. It seems one of the big issues they have is that java doesn't export any information about the application running through X. So it doesn't let on what pid the windows belong to, what application is running

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-02 Thread Paul Tansom
** J Fernyhough j.fernyho...@gmail.com [2012-05-01 14:36]: On 1 May 2012 14:33, Grant Phillips-Sewell dcg...@cornwall-it.co.uk wrote: Why should an application that isn't provided by Ubuntu, or even in the repositories, be required to create a .desktop file? It's not that it should - it's

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-02 Thread Andy Braben
On 2 May 2012 14:01, Paul Tansom p...@aptanet.com wrote: ** J Fernyhough j.fernyho...@gmail.com [2012-05-01 14:36]: On 1 May 2012 14:33, Grant Phillips-Sewell dcg...@cornwall-it.co.uk wrote: Why should an application that isn't provided by Ubuntu, or even in the repositories, be

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-02 Thread James Morrissey
If it's not a silly question, what is Super-W supposed to do? It does nothing on my machine, although this may be because by running dual screens I seem to be forced into Unity 2D - some suggest you should be able to run 3D on 2 screens, but I've had no luck so far :( It doesn't work on

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-02 Thread Keith Burnett
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-02 Thread Paul Tansom
** James Morrissey morrissey.jam...@gmail.com [2012-05-02 15:09]: If it's not a silly question, what is Super-W supposed to do? It does nothing on my machine, although this may be because by running dual screens I seem to be forced into Unity 2D - some suggest you should be able to run

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-02 Thread Colin Law
On 2 May 2012 14:01, Paul Tansom p...@aptanet.com wrote: I seem to be forced into Unity 2D - some suggest you should be able to run 3D on 2 screens, but I've had no luck so far :( It is likely that you have a chipset (intel 945 for example) where 3d is not supported by the chipset if the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-02 Thread Bruno Girin
On 02/05/12 08:29, Alan Lord (News) wrote: On 02/05/12 01:15, Alan Pope wrote: I had a chat with a couple of the developers today. It seems one of the big issues they have is that java doesn't export any information about the application running through X. So it doesn't let on what pid the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-02 Thread Bruno Girin
On 02/05/12 19:57, Paul Tansom wrote: ** James Morrissey morrissey.jam...@gmail.com [2012-05-02 15:09]: If it's not a silly question, what is Super-W supposed to do? It does nothing on my machine, although this may be because by running dual screens I seem to be forced into Unity 2D - some

[ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-01 Thread Alan Lord (News)
I've only been using 12.04 for 2 days and am already getting annoyed with it. I use some applications which are not packaged. For example, Talend. It is an Eclipse based ETL application. I can run it from the command line, that's OK. But because of the stupid, pea-brained Unity interface, if

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-01 Thread Colin Law
On 1 May 2012 14:12, Alan Lord (News) alansli...@gmail.com wrote: I've only been using 12.04 for 2 days and am already getting annoyed with it. I use some applications which are not packaged. For example, Talend. It is an Eclipse based ETL application. I can run it from the command line,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-01 Thread Grant Phillips-Sewell
Why should an application that isn't provided by Ubuntu, or even in the repositories, be required to create a .desktop file? Grant On May 1, 2012 2:29 PM, Colin Law clan...@googlemail.com wrote: On 1 May 2012 14:12, Alan Lord (News) alansli...@gmail.com wrote: I've only been using 12.04 for 2

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-01 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On 2012-05-01 15:29, Colin Law wrote: Anyone got any workarounds/suggestions for this scenario? If you open the dash and search for the app does it find it? If so then run it that way, and you can pin it to the launcher if you want to. If not then create a .desktop file to launch it

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-01 Thread Carlos Ronceros
You can use Docky or Cairo! On 01/05/12 14:12, Alan Lord (News) wrote: I've only been using 12.04 for 2 days and am already getting annoyed with it. I use some applications which are not packaged. For example, Talend. It is an Eclipse based ETL application. I can run it from the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-01 Thread Barry Drake
On 01/05/12 14:12, Alan Lord (News) wrote: I can run it from the command line, that's OK. But because of the stupid, pea-brained Unity interface, if you accidentally minimise an application which doesn't have a launcher icon then you can't get it back. Or at least I haven't found a way to yet.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-01 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 01/05/12 14:38, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: However, you can create a launcher in ~.local/share/applications, give it an icon, and execute the launcher in nautilus. Then once it is running, right-click on the launcher icon and Lock to Launcher. After that Unity seems to index

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-01 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 01/05/12 14:35, J Fernyhough wrote: Does Alt-Tab work to select the minimised window? Does the window show up in Expo (Super-W)? Alt-tab doesn;t show it, but - you sir are a star! The Expo (Super W) does :-) Thank you! Al -- Libertus Solutions http://www.libertus.co.uk --

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-01 Thread Tyler J. Wagner
On 2012-05-01 16:35, Alan Lord (News) wrote: Does Alt-Tab work to select the minimised window? Does the window show up in Expo (Super-W)? Alt-tab doesn;t show it, but - you sir are a star! The Expo (Super W) does :-) However, I then minimised my app and the little arrow disappeared from

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-01 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 01/05/12 16:07, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: However, I then minimised my app and the little arrow disappeared from my Talend launcher icon and clicking on it it tries to start a new instance of the app. I really, really hate to suggest this, but log out and in again. Lol; it's just like

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-01 Thread alan c
On 01/05/12 16:11, Alan Lord (News) wrote: On 01/05/12 16:07, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: However, I then minimised my app and the little arrow disappeared from my Talend launcher icon and clicking on it it tries to start a new instance of the app. I really, really hate to suggest this, but

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-01 Thread alan c
On 01/05/12 15:29, Alan Lord (News) wrote: On 01/05/12 14:38, Tyler J. Wagner wrote: However, you can create a launcher in ~.local/share/applications, give it an icon, and execute the launcher in nautilus. Then once it is running, right-click on the launcher icon and Lock to Launcher. After

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying stuff about Ubuntu Unity

2012-05-01 Thread Bruno Girin
On 01/05/12 15:29, Alan Lord (News) wrote: This *really* shouldn't be so hard! Well, Talend is based on Eclipse, which is a very complex Java app with all sorts of weird stuff going on. Last time I used Talend on Ubuntu, I had to compile a specific version of xulrunner from source. So you might