Re: [ubuntu-uk] Creating 'root' account. (sudo, recovery mode)

2007-08-08 Thread Paul Sladen
On Tue, 7 Aug 2007, Adam Funk wrote: > Isn't [..dropping straight to a root shell..] a bit of a security hole? No... Something is not "a security issue" if there are multiple other ways to achieve the same thing (linux init=/bin/sh, LiveCD). You are free to: 1. Set the Grub password (to preve

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Creating 'root' account. (sudo, recovery mode)

2007-08-07 Thread Adam Funk
On 2007-08-07, Paul Sladen wrote: > On a default Ubuntu with the root account locked, selecting "(recovery > mode)" will drop one straight to a root shell, without requiring a password. > > The idea behind this is simple; the only time time that somebody really > needs to do some form of recovery

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Creating 'root' account. (sudo, recovery mode)

2007-08-07 Thread Paul Sladen
On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, Adam Funk wrote: > I can think of one situation where you really need a root password > set: booting in rescue mode. On a default Ubuntu with the root account locked, selecting "(recovery mode)" will drop one straight to a root shell, without requiring a password. The idea beh

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Creating 'root' account. (sudo, audit trails)

2007-08-06 Thread Adam Funk
On 2007-08-05, Paul Sladen wrote: > On Sat, 4 Aug 2007, Andrew Jenkins wrote: >> For now though I consider playing around as 'root' while being 'under >> the influence' as bad as driving so I'll leave well alone. > > Exact logging is *precisely* why 'sudo' exists. In the morning you do: > > sud

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Creating 'root' account. (sudo, audit trails)

2007-08-06 Thread Paul Sladen
On Sun, 5 Aug 2007, Matthew Wild wrote: > On 8/5/07, Chris Rowson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, 5 Aug 2007, Paul Sladen wrote: > > > sudo grep '[s]udo' /var/log/auth.log > > Well, if you're computer still works eh ;-) > How do you get around sudo -i or sudo bash? The best solution is to n

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Creating 'root' account. (sudo, audit trails)

2007-08-05 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Matthew, On Sun, 2007-08-05 at 15:50 +0100, Matthew Wild wrote: > How do you get around sudo -i or sudo bash? Presumably that would free > them of the detailed logging? sudo can be configured to allow not only specific users to run commands under sudo, but can also limit what those commands ar

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Creating 'root' account. (sudo, audit trails)

2007-08-05 Thread Matthew Wild
How do you get around sudo -i or sudo bash? Presumably that would free them of the detailed logging? On 8/5/07, Chris Rowson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > In the morning you do: > > > > sudo grep '[s]udo' /var/log/auth.log > > > > and find out what you did the night before. 'su' won't give y

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Creating 'root' account. (sudo, audit trails)

2007-08-05 Thread Chris Rowson
> In the morning you do: > > sudo grep '[s]udo' /var/log/auth.log > > and find out what you did the night before. 'su' won't give you a list... > Well, if you're computer still works eh ;-) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Creating 'root' account. (sudo, audit trails)

2007-08-05 Thread Paul Sladen
On Sat, 4 Aug 2007, Andrew Jenkins wrote: > For now though I consider playing around as 'root' while being 'under > the influence' as bad as driving so I'll leave well alone. Exact logging is *precisely* why 'sudo' exists. In the morning you do: sudo grep '[s]udo' /var/log/auth.log and find o

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Creating 'root' account.

2007-08-04 Thread stephen
On Sat, 2007-08-04 at 21:49 +0100, Nik Butler wrote: > Mark Harrison wrote: > > Andrew Jenkins wrote: > > > >> For now though I consider playing around > >> as 'root' while being 'under the influence' as bad as driving so I'll > >> leave well alone. > >> > >> > > > > Mathematicians d

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Creating 'root' account.

2007-08-04 Thread Nik Butler
Mark Harrison wrote: > Andrew Jenkins wrote: > >> For now though I consider playing around >> as 'root' while being 'under the influence' as bad as driving so I'll >> leave well alone. >> >> > > Mathematicians don't drink and derive. > > Mark > > youd think thats a real problem bu

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Creating 'root' account.

2007-08-04 Thread Mark Harrison
Andrew Jenkins wrote: > For now though I consider playing around > as 'root' while being 'under the influence' as bad as driving so I'll > leave well alone. > Mathematicians don't drink and derive. Mark -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk htt

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Creating 'root' account.

2007-08-04 Thread Andrew Jenkins
Matthew Wild wrote: > ...or use the GUI... System->Administration->Users and Groups > Right-click on the user (or make a new one), click the privileges tab, > and check or uncheck "Administer the system". > > HTH too, > > Matthew. > > On 8/4/07, *Neil Greenwood* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Creating 'root' account.

2007-08-04 Thread Matthew Wild
...or use the GUI... System->Administration->Users and Groups Right-click on the user (or make a new one), click the privileges tab, and check or uncheck "Administer the system". HTH too, Matthew. On 8/4/07, Neil Greenwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 04/08/07, Tony Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Creating 'root' account.

2007-08-04 Thread Neil Greenwood
On 04/08/07, Tony Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (On a technical front, the user name has to be a member of the admin > group to be able to use sudo. Also, by editing /etc/sudoers you can > control exactly which commands users can execute. For example, if you > wanted to let your kids shut the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Creating 'root' account.

2007-08-04 Thread Rob Beard
Andrew Jenkins wrote: > Hi All, > > Newbie Ubuntu-ite here. So far so good, although I > have a few questions, but one at a time. > > I've been a Mandrake/Mandriva user since I ditched > the dreaded MS four or five years ago. I just > thought I'd try Ubuntu (7.04) alongside my Mandriva > 2005 o

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Creating 'root' account.

2007-08-04 Thread Andrew Price
On 04/08/07 18:56, Andrew Jenkins wrote: > I've been a Mandrake/Mandriva user since I ditched > the dreaded MS four or five years ago. I just > thought I'd try Ubuntu (7.04) alongside my Mandriva > 2005 on my laptop. Hi Andrew, welcome to the Ubuntu community :) > I'm used to the Mandriva way (a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Creating 'root' account.

2007-08-04 Thread Kris Marsh
On 8/4/07, Andrew Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All, > > Newbie Ubuntu-ite here. So far so good, although I > have a few questions, but one at a time. > > I've been a Mandrake/Mandriva user since I ditched > the dreaded MS four or five years ago. I just > thought I'd try Ubuntu (7.04) a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Creating 'root' account.

2007-08-04 Thread Tony Arnold
Andrew, Andrew Jenkins wrote: > Hi All, > > Newbie Ubuntu-ite here. So far so good, although I > have a few questions, but one at a time. > > I've been a Mandrake/Mandriva user since I ditched > the dreaded MS four or five years ago. I just > thought I'd try Ubuntu (7.04) alongside my Mandriva

[ubuntu-uk] Creating 'root' account.

2007-08-04 Thread Andrew Jenkins
Hi All, Newbie Ubuntu-ite here. So far so good, although I have a few questions, but one at a time. I've been a Mandrake/Mandriva user since I ditched the dreaded MS four or five years ago. I just thought I'd try Ubuntu (7.04) alongside my Mandriva 2005 on my laptop. I'm used to the Mandriva w