Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dad's Computer - for want of a better subject

2011-06-23 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker
On 22/06/2011 18:07, Rob Beard wrote: This is a blog post about what Microsoft class as the machine nowadays... "4.1 We grant you a nonexclusive right to distribute an individual software license only with a fully assembled computer system. A "fully assembled computer system" means a computer

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dad's Computer - for want of a better subject

2011-06-23 Thread alan c
On 22/06/11 19:47, Barry Titterton wrote: On Wed, 2011-06-22 at 11:52 +0100, alan c wrote: On 22/06/11 09:14, Jon Reynolds wrote: >Either way, I wish my Dad would just let me put Ubuntu on there and Do you intend to support his use of non free software when you obviously feel strongly

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dad's Computer - for want of a better subject

2011-06-22 Thread alan c
On 22/06/11 19:55, Avi wrote: alan c wrote: If any of my family, or friends want my support for their PCs, it *only* comes if they are using Ubuntu, no way for Windows. Although if they use Windows, that is their choice. Heh. I started not even trying to fix systems I wasn't familiar with a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dad's Computer - for want of a better subject

2011-06-22 Thread Avi
alan c wrote: > If any of my family, or friends want my support for their PCs, it > *only* comes if they are using Ubuntu, no way for Windows. Although > if they use Windows, that is their choice. Heh. I started not even trying to fix systems I wasn't familiar with a while ago in search of the qu

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dad's Computer - for want of a better subject

2011-06-22 Thread Barry Titterton
On Wed, 2011-06-22 at 11:52 +0100, alan c wrote: > On 22/06/11 09:14, Jon Reynolds wrote: > > > Either way, I wish my Dad would just let me put Ubuntu on there and > > Do you intend to support his use of non free software when you > obviously feel strongly about it? > > If any of my family, o

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dad's Computer - for want of a better subject

2011-06-22 Thread Rob Beard
On 22/06/2011 09:14, Sean Miller wrote: On 22 June 2011 08:59, Avi Greenbury > wrote: Jon Reynolds wrote: 1. Why on Earth did they choose to put Vista on there?? Perhaps because a new board supposedly means a new install of Windows and you're not suppos

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dad's Computer - for want of a better subject

2011-06-22 Thread Rob Beard
On 22/06/2011 11:32, Dave Hanson wrote: I think it may just be easier for companies like that to do a complete re-install rather than diagnose the actual problem and blame it on dodgy hardware, as for the Vista install, if they did actually take the parts from another PC perhaps they switched

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dad's Computer - for want of a better subject

2011-06-22 Thread Jon Reynolds
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 11:52:24 +0100, alan c wrote: On 22/06/11 09:14, Jon Reynolds wrote: Either way, I wish my Dad would just let me put Ubuntu on there and Do you intend to support his use of non free software when you obviously feel strongly about it? If any of my family, or friends want

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dad's Computer - for want of a better subject

2011-06-22 Thread alan c
On 22/06/11 09:14, Jon Reynolds wrote: Either way, I wish my Dad would just let me put Ubuntu on there and Do you intend to support his use of non free software when you obviously feel strongly about it? If any of my family, or friends want my support for their PCs, it *only* comes if th

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dad's Computer - for want of a better subject

2011-06-22 Thread Dave Hanson
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Jon Reynolds wrote: > I have to follow up on my Dad's computer situation. I previously posted > about how he bought MS Office rather than use OpenOffice etc. > > Well his computer then crashed again. He took it to the local shop (a small > outfit, which is nice and

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dad's Computer - for want of a better subject

2011-06-22 Thread Steve Fisher
The new hardware may not be compatible with XP, as long as the shop authenticated the Vista install, I wouldn't make a big issue about it. Just be prepared for lots of questions from your Dad, everything moved or was given a different name in Vista and the UAC is a royal PITA :) Steve -- ubuntu

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dad's Computer - for want of a better subject

2011-06-22 Thread Sean Miller
By the way, the "official line" with regard to sales of Windows XP and Vista is that both are now "past their sell by date", as XP officially "end of retail sales" was June 30th 2008, and Vista October 22nd 2010. Which makes me wonder why, if this PC shop wanted to "move your dad forward", they di

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dad's Computer - for want of a better subject

2011-06-22 Thread Sean Miller
On 22 June 2011 09:16, Avi Greenbury wrote: > I thought when pressed for a definition, MS decreed that the part of the > computer the license was tied to was the motherboard, but I've never had > cause to find out for sure. No, the automatic online activation may not work (due to the hardware c

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dad's Computer - for want of a better subject

2011-06-22 Thread Sean Miller
On 22 June 2011 09:14, Jon Reynolds wrote: > Is XP no longer sold (now I think about it that may be obvious!)? What > about all the people and businesses who are not ready/capable of > supporting/running Win7? Are existing XP license holders not able to have > their PCs repaired and continue usin

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dad's Computer - for want of a better subject

2011-06-22 Thread Jon Reynolds
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 09:22:51 +0100, Avi Greenbury wrote: Either way, I wish my Dad would just let me put Ubuntu on there and just LEARN to use OOo instead of MSO... stubborn git! :) Surely this isn't that far from what the shop did, just you're imparting a different OS upon him... :) -- Avi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dad's Computer - for want of a better subject

2011-06-22 Thread Avi Greenbury
Jon Reynolds wrote: Is XP no longer sold (now I think about it that may be obvious!)? What about all the people and businesses who are not ready/capable of supporting/running Win7? Are existing XP license holders not able to have their PCs repaired and continue using their XP License? That's rubb

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dad's Computer - for want of a better subject

2011-06-22 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 22 June 2011 09:14, Jon Reynolds wrote: > On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:59:45 +0100, Avi Greenbury wrote: > >> Jon Reynolds wrote: >> >>> 1. Why on Earth did they choose to put Vista on there?? >>> >> Perhaps because a new board supposedly means a new install of Windows >> and you're not supposed to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dad's Computer - for want of a better subject

2011-06-22 Thread Avi Greenbury
Sean Miller wrote: On 22 June 2011 08:59, Avi Greenbury wrote: Jon Reynolds wrote: 1. Why on Earth did they choose to put Vista on there?? Perhaps because a new board supposedly means a new install of Windows and you're not supposed to be using XP licenses any more. Perhaps they're also ti

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dad's Computer - for want of a better subject

2011-06-22 Thread Jon Reynolds
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:59:45 +0100, Avi Greenbury wrote: Jon Reynolds wrote: 1. Why on Earth did they choose to put Vista on there?? Perhaps because a new board supposedly means a new install of Windows and you're not supposed to be using XP licenses any more. Perhaps they're also tired of supp

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dad's Computer - for want of a better subject

2011-06-22 Thread Sean Miller
On 22 June 2011 08:59, Avi Greenbury wrote: > Jon Reynolds wrote: > >> 1. Why on Earth did they choose to put Vista on there?? >> > Perhaps because a new board supposedly means a new install of Windows and > you're not supposed to be using XP licenses any more. Perhaps they're also > tired of sup

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dad's Computer - for want of a better subject

2011-06-22 Thread Avi Greenbury
Jon Reynolds wrote: 1. Why on Earth did they choose to put Vista on there?? Perhaps because a new board supposedly means a new install of Windows and you're not supposed to be using XP licenses any more. Perhaps they're also tired of supporting an OS that's way past end-of-life. Did you ask t

[ubuntu-uk] Dad's Computer - for want of a better subject

2011-06-22 Thread Jon Reynolds
I have to follow up on my Dad's computer situation. I previously posted about how he bought MS Office rather than use OpenOffice etc. Well his computer then crashed again. He took it to the local shop (a small outfit, which is nice and a bit personal) who eventually diagnosed a faulty motherbo